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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:10 PM
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ATTN: Iran is NOT a THREAT
carry on now and ignore the propaganda from the ever hungry war-machine.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:11 PM
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1. I know it isn't a threat.
And the propaganda (misleadings and outright lies) are easy to spot...but even some DUers refuse to listen.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:15 PM
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4. Man... look at all your Hearts!
damn... not one for me...:cry:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:30 PM
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9. Awwww.
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 05:31 PM by LynnTheDem
:(

How about a :hug:

HEY! Lookit what you got! Alright! :)

Now if only freepers could get a brain...
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:30 PM
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10. I Got a Heart!!!
thank you...:-)
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:34 PM
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12. Wasn't me...
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 05:34 PM by LynnTheDem
But I was in the process of sending you one until I realized a minor problem on my end...credit card is expired. Where is my replacement card??!

ARRRRRRRRRGH!!! I HATE MONDAYS!!!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:40 PM
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17. Thanks Lynn
I'm home from work, so I'll be giving you a heart soon! Taking out wallet now...
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:52 PM
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19. Awwww, you sweet thang you!
*SMOOOOOCH*

:D
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:13 PM
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2. Iran... ohhh, shiney things... oh, we're going to war... what's up with
bradgalina... sending in ground troops... who is Jennifer Aniston dating... American's dying... Who is the Bachelor going to pick... more WMDs... I so want that new palm piolot with a phone and video game attached...

Welcome to the American mind-set.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:13 PM
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3. They are a threat
Just not to the extent that Bush paints them (I say this because many people on the left who are against the war in Iraq have said repeatedly that IRAN poses more of the threat than Saddam, including Gore, Dean, and Kerry. The 9/11 Comission, which said that Iraq had no ties to Al Qaeda, also said that Iran was somewhat of a problem.). I don't believe that he is sincere in his motives for calling out Iran either, as he just wants another war.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:20 PM
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6. exactly. IRan does after all
write the checks to Hamas and Hezbollah, not exactly boy scouts.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:16 PM
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5. It's all about the Dollar vs. the Euro-The nuclear bullshit just an excuse
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 05:34 PM by LaPera
STOP listening to the mainstream media and BushCo and what they are telling you the reason is about Iran's nuclear power...it's just pushing more...FEAR!!! Just like Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction more pushing of...FEAR!!!

This is just another Bush smokescreen Bush, he lies about EVERYTHING and he's lying about this as well...It's about the US Dollar vs the Euro -- Iran wants to go to the Euro for it's petrol!!!

Read on...

This is from a right-wing business site...

"Jonas, I believe we must engage the enemy on his own soil, or do it here. We cannot allow Iran to go to a euro denominated oil. It can't be allowed to happen. The effects on our economy would be astounding possibly devastating. Iran has given us the edge, we can institute sanctions, punish them economically and ensure their oil stays pegged to the dollar, quarantee the success of Iraq all under the ospice the U. N. security council. Europe backs us, India doesn't want to, but after the remarks from Iran's leader they have no choice. Israel backs strikes against Iran, no surprise. You cannot allow a maniac to have nukes. Russia could pull a rabbit out of a hat and astound us all with their control over Iran, but so far they have not shown a willingness to do so, however there is time. When bonds have a strong showing on Monday and throughout the week it will be the strongest signal we have had in this amazingly risky venture. Personally I have not made a dinar purchase in months I have been waiting and watching for a clear definitive signal. If next week goes as the experts are predicting, I go all in next Friday. Lance"

http://www.investorsiraq.com/conservative-speculative-discussions/13908-iran-protection-our-investment.html

This is from a more moderate site...

Similar to the Iraq war, military operations against Iran relate to the macroeconomics of ‘petrodollar recycling’ and the unpublicized but real challenge to U.S. dollar supremacy from the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency.

It is now obvious the invasion of Iraq had less to do with any threat from Saddam’s long-gone WMD program and certainly less to do to do with fighting International terrorism than it has to do with gaining strategic control over Iraq’s hydrocarbon reserves and in doing so maintain the U.S. dollar as the monopoly currency for the critical international oil market. Throughout 2004 information provided by former administration insiders revealed the Bush/Cheney administration entered into office with the intention of toppling Saddam Hussein.<1><2>

Candidly stated, ‘Operation Iraqi Freedom’ was a war designed to install a pro-U.S. government in Iraq, establish multiple U.S military bases before the onset of global Peak Oil, and to reconvert Iraq back to petrodollars while hoping to thwart further OPEC momentum towards the euro as an alternative oil transaction currency (i.e. “petroeuro”).<3> However, subsequent geopolitical events have exposed neoconservative strategy as fundamentally flawed, with Iran moving towards a petroeuro system for international oil trades, while Russia evaluates this option with the European Union.

http://www.energybulletin.net/7707.html

This from a progressive site... ("What you WON"T see on CNN")

The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target:
The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Marker

The Iranians are about to commit an "offense" far greater than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro of Iraq’s oil exports in the fall of 2000. Numerous articles have revealed Pentagon planning for operations against Iran as early as 2005. While the publicly stated reasons will be over Iran's nuclear ambitions, there are unspoken macroeconomic drivers explaining the Real Reasons regarding the 2nd stage of petrodollar warfare - Iran's upcoming euro-based oil Bourse.

Many political commentators have pointed out that the deficit-ridden US and British economies have only been able to continue their unsustainable ways because the US dollar enjoys the artificial privilege of being the world’s reserve currency. The world’s two existing oil markets, the NYMEX in New York and the International Petroleum Exchange in London, both owned by US capital, insist on all oil transactions being conducted in US dollars. For this reason, all countries must have substantial reserves of dollars to ensure vital supplies of fuel energy. This means that the US economy can go on accumulating stratospheric debts because they can just keep printing more dollars, knowing that the rest of the world will have to take them in order to keep their oil supplies coming.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11859.htm
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:22 PM
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7. Thanks! (nt)
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:37 PM
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13. What are the consequences of this oil bourse?
Say Iran does go to the Euro and we do nothing. How significantly does this effect our economy? What will happen?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:28 PM
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8. Iran has never been a threat, that is, until the media repuke minions..
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 05:29 PM by Javaman
said told us otherwise...

I refuse to fall under their hypnotic gaze. That's what x-ray specs are for!!!
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:32 PM
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11. They are a threat... to US and Israeli expansionism
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:39 PM
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14. That's the thing with bush; his idea of "threat" is NOT what USers think
So bush doesn't "lie"...he just defines "threat" and "democratic" and "justice" etc very differently than any dictionary does.

"Threat" @ bush means threat to the super-rich big biz (his base; the haves & have mores). He doesn't give a fuck about physical threat to Americans. KATRINA, anyone? The bastard is refusing to fund New Orleans repairs...FRANCE among OTHER NATIONS are donating funds for that. His "budget" CUTS MILK from American children, cuts FOOD from American eldery, cuts MEDICINE and TREATMENTS from American poor.


And rightwingnuts actually think bush gives a flying about we the people. Stupid MFers.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:41 PM
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15. Exactly.
:thumbsup:
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:41 PM
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16. started a new Research topic on Iran - please help with posting
articles and the like.. thanks
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:42 PM
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18. It is to the countries that surround it.
Some of which are indirectly related to American interests. For better or for worse.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:53 PM
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20. I side with the majority of ME experts & disagree with ya.
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 06:53 PM by LynnTheDem
If you don't mind.

I like toads. :)
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