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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:59 PM
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Why does it matter if Cheny accidentaly shot some while hunting?
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 08:04 PM by gordontron
seriously we have much bigger fish to fry, unless there is something I am missing. If there is any real reason we should care at all about this incident (except for the humor factor of course) please tell me. Otherwise I'll just ignore every Cheny-Hunting thread from now on.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:01 PM
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1. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Feel free to ignore threads that you don't think matter, but I think this is extraordinarily important myself, and it baffles me that so many are bothered by others thinking it's important. Why does it matter if I find it important and want to discuss it?

Short answer to your question: The Vice President SHOT somebody. That matters.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:02 PM
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2. I'm sure it all helps his heart mur-mur.
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Justsayin Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:03 PM
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3. incompetence and lies
It showcases the incompetence and lies coming out of the misadministration.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:47 PM
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23. Exactlly
What are they hiding.

1. If it were you or me and there was an accidental shooting on our property, would we be able to send out our spokeperson to say we will talk when we are ready to talk?

2. Wouldn't we be asked if there was any drinking going on?

3. Wouldn't you be asked if there was problems between you and the victim?

4. Would't all witnesses be questioned on what they saw?

There are a million more question on the differences between Dick Cheney and us. These are just a couple off the top of my head. That is why I think this story is important.

Right now, the "liberal" media is putting out the "aw shucks, Dick Cheney, accidently shoots one of his hunting partners". They are making this story palatable to "Joe six pack". NO. It is up to us that to tell our favorite "joe six packer" that we would not have been treated like that.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:59 PM
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26. You are right Justsayin....
Because it shows a pattern of lying when there is no need to lie...
They are compulsive liers.

So if this is the case for an accidental shooting. What have they done in the serious issues, Iraq, Katrina etc.

It could have been so simple...
There was an accident...all they had to do was inform the press and the public of the incident and it might have gone away.


But No...
Instead they fuck it up delay reporting it, leave it to one of their largest contributors to inform the local press.

Same ole MO different day....
:hi:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:03 PM
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4. What if he was snookered? That'd make him criminally negligent.
Or, would it only have been an issue if he had taken his head off?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:04 PM
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5. Why does it matter if Bush accidentally spied on an innocent ctiizen
He meant well, just trying to save America. Leave them all alone and quit expecting them to live under the same laws everybody else has to.

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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:06 PM
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8. that is not the same issue at all
this was an accident. Accidents happen. Now obviously its pretty serious that he shot someone, but he had no intention to. Spying on the other hand the Bushies love to do, it is no accident. and I'm pissed about the spying thing by the way
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:12 PM
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17. Arrogant abuse of the law
We don't even know what happened yet. Huge parts of this story don't even add up. Somebody almost died. I'm amazed that anybody would dismiss it so lightly. It wouldn't be dismissed if it were you, unless you're the biggest employer in your county.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:04 PM
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6. Well, it could be because he's the 1st VP to shoot somebody since
Aaron Burr!

Listen to KO tonight. He said VP's are always remembered for only one thing. VP Dan Quail for mis-spelling potato, and now this one for shooting a guy!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:06 PM
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7. when was the last time a VP was dumb enough to shoot somebody?
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 08:06 PM by The_Casual_Observer
It's worth considering the implications.
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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:07 PM
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hmm I think Cheny is the brains behind
this administration so I think he's a pretty bright guy even if Bush is just a puppet.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:53 PM
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24. hmmmm You see all this shit we are in as bright?
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 11:00 PM by The_Casual_Observer
I would hate to see what you consider to be dumb.

That asshole is about the last one in the world I would want to be depending on when it really counted, I guess you feel differently!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:07 PM
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9. A few factors....
Manly "avid, experienced birdhunter" pulls the single most inexcusable stupid stunt any hunter can pull. A 180 blind shot not knowing where one third of the shooting party was positioned.

Not allowing local law enforcement to interview Cheney (alcohol?)

Inexplicable delay in reporting the story and then just phoning Corpus Christi local paper.

I am sure there is more.

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:09 PM
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12. Illegally hunting w/o the proper permit n/t
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:08 PM
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10. Ya know your right!
Cheney probably shots a guy in the face every day! What's the big deal?
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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:10 PM
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14. No its an interesting story but
I don't think it deserves THIS much attention. The fact the foiled terror plot wasn't true didn't make it on the front page of the DU and this did is worrying.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:12 PM
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18. Your right but
This is America 2006 and this is the kind of suff that gets attention
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:15 PM
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20. The "foiled" "terror plot" being trotted out as a bogus justification
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 08:15 PM by mac56
didn't surprise anyone here at DU.

Deadeye Dick and his own personal Chappaquiddick did.

News, by its nature, is something not ordinary.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:08 PM
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11. Because this may be the tipping point...
This issue will resonate with many more people that the Valerie Plame case. It's easy to understand and it's obvious how much they tried to cover their butts.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:10 PM
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13. It could be a Karl Rove plan...
...to trick Dems in to speaking out on gun control again. (cough)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:11 PM
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15. Bushco. IS One Giant, Irresponsible SHOTGUN BLAST TO THE FACE of the World
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 08:12 PM by Beetwasher
That's why this story is important. Everything they do has the same subtlety and impact as this shotgun blast to face of his supposed friend.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:11 PM
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16. Go ahead and ignore them if you want to.
But if you genuinely want to know...

It's part and parcel, it's of the same cloth with how these bastards deal with everything. They fuck up, then they cover it up, then they dodge responsibility and blame the victim.

Hubris, arrogance, and most likely criminal negligence. Plus Cheney and target were on a secluded ranch with two women not their wives.

That's why it matters.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:18 PM
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22. You hit the nail on the head...
this morning, I was sorta irritated about the whole thing, until it came to me that it was just another in a continuing series of cover-ups. It is so their MO to pull stuff like this! I mean, puhleeze, the news came from the owner of the business where the incident occurred?

I think it just took a little longer than usual for my cynicism to kick in this morning. ;)
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:14 PM
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19. It matters BUT
he will get away with the way the repukes get away with everything. x(
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:15 PM
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21. It's not the shooting. It is the cover-up. Always the cover-up. nt
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gordontron Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:07 AM
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27. yes the only message that rings true from all of you
is that this just shows a pattern of cover ups. Obviously Dickface is an evil guy, and not very inteligent when it comes to anything except world domination.

still I think its overblown.

sorry for dredging this topic up again.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:56 PM
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25. yeah. its not like he had a blow job.......
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 10:58 PM by sheeptramp
HE SHOT A MAN IN THE FACE!
the vice President of the united states fucking SHOT A MAN IN THE FACE!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:45 AM
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28. Okay, ignore all Darth-hunting threads while starting your very own on it.
Irony is dead, it seems. :eyes:
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