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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:45 AM
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Cheney's Canned Kill, And Other Hunting Excessives Of The Bush Admin.
Vice President Dick Cheney went pheasant shooting in Pennsylvania in December 2003, but unlike most of his fellow hunters across America, he didn't have to spend hours or even days tramping the fields and hedgerows in hopes of bagging a brace of birds for the dinner table.

Upon his arrival at the exclusive Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township, gamekeepers released 500 pen-raised pheasants from nets for the benefit of him and his party. In a blaze of gunfire, the group—which included legendary Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach and U.S. Senator John Cornyn (R-TX), along with major fundraisers for Republican candidates—killed at least 417 of the birds. According to one gamekeeper who spoke to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Cheney was credited with shooting more than 70 of the pen-reared fowl.

After lunch, the group shot flocks of mallard ducks, also reared in pens and shot like so many live skeet. There's been no report on the number of mallards the hunting party killed, but it's likely that hundreds fell.

Rolling Rock is an exclusive private club for the wealthy with a world-class golf course and a closed membership list. It is also a "canned hunting" operation—a place where fee-paying hunters blast away at released animals, whether birds or mammals, who often have no reasonable chance to escape. Most are "no kill, no pay" operations where patrons only shells out funds for the animals they kill.

http://www.hsus.org/legislation_laws/wayne_pacelle_the_animal_advocate/cheneys_canned_kill_and_other_hunting_excesses_of_the_bush_administration.html
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:53 AM
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1. How f'n sick How truly f'n sick
Tamed birds/animals are released in a poof so they can be shot for the pleasure of "sportsmen". How truly f'n sick.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:57 AM
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3. Ain't it though
Those are their damn "family values" for you. What an evil damn bunch of evil-doers.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:56 AM
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2. It's disgusting that this kind of "hunting" is legal....
God, how I hate these assholes!
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:03 AM
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4. These fuckers make me sick to my stomach...
They are so fucking lazy and think that they should have everything handed to them on a silver platter, that they cannot take the time to actually "hunt"??

How do these people live with their cowardly, piece of shit selves??

Fuck you too, Staubach.
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Appalachian_American Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:17 AM
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5. COWARDLY...
That's exactly what I've been thinking. They are all a bunch of cowards. Chicken hawk cowards.

Cheney should be branded as the pasty pansy that he really is instead of all the Darth Cheney, tough-guy labels that he probably gets off on hearing about himself. Apparently he's no skilled hunter. He has to have farm-raised animals, in the thousands, set loose within a few feet of him to bag anything. And he has to hop out of a car and start shooting, instead of skillfully tracking wild prey like a real man/hunter.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:45 AM
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6. Real hunters hunt Grizzlies with only a 5 inch knife.....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:52 AM
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7. cowardly hunters
boy, there's a stretch
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:57 AM
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8. Everything this administration does
is excessive and disgusting. :mad:
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:01 AM
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9. But,at least now they can't be termed......
The gang that couldn't shoot straight! Sorry, couldn't resist.
:rofl:
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:17 AM
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10. 18th century monarchs did that... And that's what those
people are behaving like all the time. Utterly disgusting.

Poor animals :cry:

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:23 AM
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11. videos of a canned hunt could be used by a lot of candidates ...
... for both the House and Senate.

These people need to be turned loose on each other. The remaining world would be a better place.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:34 AM
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12. that's a good idea
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 03:36 AM by Syrinx
I grew up in Alabama, and I have never been hunting in my life. I guess since I'm not a vegetarian Ted Nugent would call me a hypocrite. I don't really have a moral problem with hunting, if it's REAL hunting. I just never understood the attraction of killing animals as sport.

I think most people would be appalled by these "canned kills," if they knew about it, even people who like to go hunting (as that's understood by non-evil-doers.)

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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:45 AM
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13. Canned hunting has been going on
for a very long time. And it's one area where PETA is constantly alert and reporting on. But for some reason, even in our own "circles" PETA is looked at as an extreme group, one in which only "loonies" might find a cause. After being part of the animal rights causes for over 20 years, I think they are right on target, but even here at DU it is difficult to talk about some of the issues which PETA brings up because people just don't understand and don't think about all abuse that is perpetrated on animals everywhere. It is truly a sad world in which we live when a group that tries to show the horrors we inflict on the animals in our lives is considered "extreme" "radical" and "going too far." If I knew it would do any good to report on some of the atrocities out there, I would talk about things more and more openly, but even here it's never going to be that easy, nor is it going to do a helluva lot of good for the animals.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:55 AM
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14. you gotta admit that PETA can sound a little extreme at times
I'm certainly closer to PETA, than to Cheney.

I favor medical tests on animals if it will help cure human diseases. Cures yes, cosmetics no.

And this "hunting" that Cheney and people like him do is scandalous and unforgiveable.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:36 AM
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16. Well, you see,
There really isn't as much correlation between animal experimentation and the effects on humans as some would have you believe. There have been many drugs that got the full research treatment and proved harmless in animals, but the effect on humans turned out to be not so harmless. One of the bigger blunders in this area was thalidomide, which was determined to be safe when tested on animals, and then used on pregnant women. In the end, the women who took thalidomide gave birth to children with massive physical defects and deformities. If you spot someone with one arm, and what looks like a half an arm as the other, or some sort of "fin" or other vestigial limb, you have seen the effects of thalidomide on humans.

Here's a link to some more information at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_experimentation

You can judge for yourself whether animal experimentation is good or bad. But today, there are so many different methods for testing that animal experimentation is not necessary in most research, and that computer animals are far better for the information the researchers need.

Here's a link at PETA regarding animal testing by the military. Be warned: there are graphic photos on the page:

http://www.peta.org/feat/military/

I might not approve of all the work that PETA has done, or that such groups as Last Chance for Animals does, but you have to admit: they stir up the shit, which provides a dialogue for people to learn more about the horrific things which man"kind" does.

You might want to read a book called "Animal Liberation." It's an older book, and was written by Pete Singer about thirty (or more) years ago. What you will read shows the complete and utter lack of ethics that some "scientists" have when it comes to animals. Here's a link to Amazon, and it names a few additional books about the same subject:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060011572/sr=8-1/qid=1139924023/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7272160-7228849?%5Fencoding=UTF8

I am not out to convince anyone to change their lives based on the viewpoints of animal rights activists, but to create a resource where people can make up their own minds about animal testing once they have the facts, and not just the assumptions that have been maintained for so long.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:26 AM
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15. I have no problem with REAL honorable hunters who...
learn how to use a gun or bow accurately and effectively and hunt honestly in a way that requires some skill and effort--and then humanely kill their pray and take it to be consumed for the meat.

Cheney not only has his rich elitist, obnoxious and lazy pen-raised, lazy-assed, car driving, no dog, approach to "hunting," which is the most arrogant aspect of "hunting..." He also comes from an ilck who think nothing of going out in low flying small planes to shoot coyotes from the sky, leaving their carcasses to rot. I had many a fight with "hunters" who thought nothing of doing this when I worked and lived in Wyoming several years ago...I don't paint Wyoming (or any other hunters) with this broad brush, but there is a segment out there....

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