BFEE Turd Daniel Pipes tied to DANISH CARTOONS

[Octafish]

Gee. In a War on Terra, who benefits the most from an enraged and radicalized Muslim world?

The Cartoons and the Neocon

Daniel Pipes and the Danish Editor

By JOHN SUGG
February 14, 2006

Let me tell you a few things about blasphemy. Been there, done it. Got expelled from high school for it.

SNIP…

So, let’s look at the guy who started this whole cartoon escapade. He’s Flemming Rose, the cultural editor of the Danish newspaper. In all of the Lexis-Nexis database of stories from the American media on the Mohammed cartoons, there is absolutely no mention of the fact that Rose is a close confederate of arch-Islamophobe Daniel Pipes. Indeed, there is almost no context at all about Rose’s newspaper. On a brief mention in the Washington Post gave a hint at a fact desperately needed to understand the situation. The Post described the affair as “a calculated insult … by a right-wing newspaper in a country where bigotry toward the minority Muslim population is a major, if frequently unacknowledged, problem.”

How bad is Pipes? He wants the utter military obliteration of the Palestinians; indeed, from the Muslim world, his racism is about as blatant as that of the Holocaust denying Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Pipes’ frequent outbursts of racism -- designed to toss gasoline on the neo-cons’ lust for a wholesale conflict of cultures -- earned him a Bush nomination to the U.S. Institute of Peace, a congressionally funded think tank. Rose came to America to commune with Pipes in 2004, and it was after that meeting the cartoon gambit materialized.

It’s also worth noting that Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen wrapped himself in protestations about freedom of speech, and that’s commendable. But he is one of Bush’s few fans in Europe, steeped in the we-versus-them rhetoric, and having sent troops to the Iraqi Crusade.

Is Rose an equal opportunity offender? No way. As the British press reported last week, his newspaper refused in 2003 to run cartoons that ridiculed Jesus. And, of course, free expression in Europe is very relative. Many of the democracies have laws banning certain speech.

CONTINUED…

http://www.counterpunch.org/sugg02142006.html

Daniel Pipes is a big steaming neocon turd of the BFEE.

[Avalux]

1. Well, that explains a lot.

The cartoons were published with one purpose in mind. And the neocons are laughing their asses off.

[Octafish]

2. Real men go to Tehran.

That was the neocon punch line to "Everybody wants to go to Baghdad."

Me?

I just want to avert war.

War with Iran could escalate to World War III.

Were that to occur, only Bush, Pat Robertson, Rev Moon and their BFEE toadies would be happy.

[Avalux]

3. Yes it could escalate, and those jerks would get off on it.

Their goal is complete chaos in the ME - the means to getting there are of no consequence. None of those people give a damn about human lives.

[Rex]

13. They'd be happy until the mushroom clouds got to their part of the woods.

WWIII will be a nuclear war, woe be it to the asshole that starts it.

[Octafish]

43. Rev Moon helps BFEE stone two birds with one big kill.

Moon's ill-gotten billions have bought up an area the size of Sicily in South America. It just so happens to be next to the world's largest aquifer, the source for much of the Amazon's H20. Plus, it's handily located near much of the world's narco stash.

Paraguayans accuse Moon of carving out an empire of smack

Thursday, October 14, 2004


Exerpt:

"Since 1999, Rev Moon has built his personal empire which begins on the marshy banks of the River Paraguay and stretches beyond the hazy, level horizon through 600,000 hectares of arid land - equivalent to more than two Luxembourgs - punctuated by solitary clusters of withered trees and sad bushes which struggle desperately for air.

The scorching sun beats relentlessly on one of Latin America's most desolate zones. It is here in the northern province of Chaco, directly above the GuaranI aquifer, the largest resource of fresh drinking water in the world, where Moon's associates claim he wishes to build an ecological paradise.

Nevertheless, national Senator Domingo Laino sees a different pattern in Moon's acquisitions. "There are two principal branches to Moon's interest in Paraguay," he said, "control of the largest fresh drinking water source in the world and control of the narcotics business", which is so prevalent in this area. "President Lula told me that Brazil took serious measures to curb Moon a few years back as it became evident that he was buying up the border between our two countries," said the senator.

Allegations from local law enforcement officials support this claim. The so-called Dr Montiel, Paraguay's drugs tsar from 1976-89, said: "The fact that they came and bought in Chaco and on both sides of the Brazilian border is very telling. It is an enormously strategic point in both the narcotics and arms trades and indeed the available intelligence clearly shows that the Moon sect is involved in both these enterprises." "

SOURCE:

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2004/11/5/13314/9719

and

http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/

It's no secret, wherever the location: Whatever happens to us, won't necessarily happen to these "lucky" few who escape to Rev Moon's jungle redoubt.

[Rex]

45. Wouldn't it be some shit if Moon turned out to be a NK spy?

Lil Kim would get a kick outta that one. Moons is as crazy as they come, no wonder Chavez wants to arm his population. I wonder if Pat will build a citadel in Zaire? Do these men have private armies?

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[FreedomAngel82]

102. And don't forget Abramoff and SunCruz

Atta and a buddy who was "involved" in the hijacking deal went on his boat and gambled a lot and than headed to Vegas and the owner of that boat recently was murdered in Florida.

[FreedomAngel82]

100. And guess who is working with Moon now?

Neil Bush.

[me b zola]

4. I thought the entire thing stunk from the very beginning

Thanks for posting, Octafish.

[Octafish]

9. Neoconman Man

You're welcome, me b zola!

A nice profile on Mr. Pipes:

Neocon Man

by EYAL PRESS
The Nation
from the May 10, 2004 issue

Daniel Pipes was a busy man in the days following September 11, 2001. The Philadelphia-based foreign policy analyst and commentator on terrorism and Islam first learned that planes had crashed into the World Trade Center when a local television producer called to invite him to the station for an interview. Over the next twelve months, Pipes would appear on 110 television and 450 radio shows. His op-eds graced the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Los Angeles Times. The New York Post signed him up as a columnist. The Philadelphia Inquirer described him as "smoking-hot."

It was not always thus. Pipes, 54, had labored in comparative obscurity during the 1990s, writing a series of books and articles that advanced a hard line on Arab countries from Syria to Saudi Arabia to Iran, and darkly warning that Muslim-Americans posed a threat to the United States. Back then, these were not popular topics on the talk-show circuit. Pipes indeed seemed destined to share the fate of his old friend Steven Emerson, another self-styled terrorism expert, who gained notoriety in the immediate aftermath of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing for suggesting that it bore a "Middle Eastern trait." Pipes himself echoed this, telling USA Today that the bombing showed that the West was "under attack" and that fundamentalists "are targeting us."

The words of a demagogue, or of a prophet ahead of his time? To a growing circle of conservative admirers, Pipes is the latter. The Forward recently named him one of the nation's fifty most influential American Jews. Last year President Bush overrode objections from Muslim-American groups in appointing Pipes to the US Institute of Peace, a federal agency whose mandate is to promote the "peaceful resolution of international conflicts," despite the fact that Pipes has long dismissed the very idea of peaceful resolution ("diplomacy rarely ends conflicts," he had written a year earlier).

But Pipes's biggest impact has not come from analyzing foreign affairs. It has come from pointing a finger at a purported fifth column lurking in a place conservatives have long suspected of harboring one: academia. Two years ago Pipes launched Campus Watch, an organization whose stated purpose is to expose the analytical failures and political bias of the field of Middle Eastern studies. The group's first act was to post McCarthy-style "dossiers" on the Internet singling out eight professors critical of American and Israeli policies. When more than a hundred scholars contacted Campus Watch to request that they be added to the list in a gesture of solidarity, Pipes obliged, labeling them "apologists for suicide bombings and militant Islam."

As the latter phrase suggests, when Pipes criticizes scholars, he doesn't just take issue with their arguments. He impugns their motives, tossing out labels like "self-hating" and "anti-American," and lifting quotes out of context to portray his targets as closet sympathizers with Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Pipes writes columns titled "Profs Who Hate America." "Why do American academics so often despise their own country while finding excuses for repressive and dangerous regimes?" he wrote in the lead-up to the Iraq war, which he heartily backed, mocking scholars for failing to see that Saddam Hussein posed an "imminent threat" to America.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20040510&s=press

Gee. Pipes sure was wrong about those WMDs. Wonder what else he's wrong about?

Oh well. No matter to the Military-Industrial-Intelligence Complex that profits so handsomely from death.

[FreedomAngel82]

103. So they basically hired him

to write articles that favored what their plans were (to go into Iraq and 9/11 and Afghianstan) and than he was a self-proclaimed expert and went helped the Bushies and neocons. :mad:

[lonestarnot]

5. Stink'n rat bastid! K & R

[Octafish]

10. PNAC Warpimp

Thanks, lonestarnot!

Here's a nice summary of the situation from Jeff St. Clair, a guy who knows a ruling warmonger class when he sees one:

A Confidence Game on Iraq

War Pimps

By JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
Counterpunch
August 16, 2003

Iago: He thinks men honest
That do but seem to be so.
Othello

The war on Iraq won't be remembered for how it was waged so much as for how it was sold. It was a propaganda war, a war of perception management, where loaded phrases, such as "weapons of mass destruction" and "rogue state," were hurled like precision weapons at the target audience: us.

SNIP...

The current crop of Iraq hawks also saw Saddam much differently then. Take the writer Laura Mylroie, sometime colleague of the New York Times' Judy Miller, who persists in peddling the ludicrous conspiracy that Iraq was behind the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

How times have changed. In 1987, Mylroie felt downright cuddly toward Saddam. She penned an article for the New Republic titled Back Iraq: Time for a US Tilt in the Mideast, arguing that the US should publicly embrace Saddam's secular regime as a bulwark against the Islamic fundamentalists in Iran. The co-author of this mesmerizing weave of wonkery was none other than the minor demon himself, Daniel Pipes, perhaps the nation's most bellicose Islamophobe. "The American weapons that Iraq could make good use of include remotely scatterable and anti-personnel mines and counterartillery radar," wrote Mylroie and Pipes. "The United States might also consider upgrading intelligence it is supplying Baghdad."

In the roll-out for the war, Mylroie seemed to be everywhere hawking the invasion of Iraq. She would often appear on two or three different networks in the same day. How did the reporter manage this feat? She had help in the form of Eleana Benador, the media placement guru who runs Benador Associates. Born in Peru, Benador parlayed her skills as a linguist into a lucrative career as media relations whiz for the Washington foreign policy elite. She also oversees the Middle East Forum, a fanatically pro-Zionist white paper mill. Her clients include some of the nation's most fervid hawks, including Michael Ledeen, Charles Krauthammer, Al Haig, Max Boot, Daniel Pipes, Richard Perle and Judy Miller. During the Iraq war, Benador's assignment was to embed this squadron of pro-war zealots into the national media, on talk shows and op-ed pages.

Benador not only got them the gigs, she also crafted the message and made sure they all stayed on the same theme. "There are some things, you just have to state them in a different way, in a slightly different way," said Benador. "If not people get scared." Scared of intentions of their own government.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair08162003.html

These neocons sure do get paid well.

Wonder if they realize they've lost their souls in the process?

[lonestarnot]

12. I think they were born with black holes w/o souls.

[FreedomAngel82]

104. And this explains why

they're so cozy to Haliburton and other lobbists because they get paid big money and inturn have to pay people like in your post. Don't forget when Reagan was president the Senate overwhemingly bipartisanly said to stop dealing with Hussein but Reagan vetoed this bill.

[EVDebs]

6. Bush playing with the "Fear Spigot" as Gerald Posner said on KO's

show the other day. When * is down in the polls, you can expect Operation Mockingbird to spring into action for him.

Operation Mockingbird (scroll down past the ads)
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmockingbird.htm

It hasn't shut down, it's gotten worse. GannonJournalism.

[Octafish]

19. Ah, yesh. The Mighty Wurlitzer.

Pipes knows how to play Corporate McPravda, just like Old Allen Dulles used to.

Thankfully, many people have figured Pipes out:

Media Propaganda: Hitler, Bush, and the "Big Lie"

by Wahida C. Valiante
(Saturday October 18 2003)
Media Matters

"Even a casual observer of American media coverage of the "big lie" against Iraq can certainly identify the uncanny similarities between Hitler's propaganda theory and the techniques employed by the American media and Mr.Bush."

History tells us that pen is mightier than the sword, and that before and alongside genocide, ethnic cleansing, occupation, invasion and war there is the inevitable propaganda war being waged. In the battle for people's hearts and minds, the media have always played a pivotal role. It was the media that generated widespread public support for Hitler's foreign and domestic policies, allowing him to carry out his murderous campaign against racial minoities, religious minorities, and the "undesirables" in Germany's midst.

The leading theorist of the propaganda was Adolf Hitler himself. "The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed," he wrote in Mein Kampf. In his words, "The art of propaganda is not very complicated, but very simple. It does not have multiple shadings; it has positive and negative; love or hate, right or wrong, truth or lie; never half this way and half that way, never partially."

SNIP...

When it comes to anti-Islam and anti-Muslim propaganda, the media rely heavily on Zionists, of whom not all are Jews. Bernard Lewis and his co-religionists Daniel Pipes and Samuel Huntington are among the best-known pro-Israeli non-Muslim scholars of Islam. They follow Hitler's propaganda techniques flawlessly by confining themselves to few slogans, expressing them in stereotypical formulas and repeating them persistently throughout their work. Their "big lie" proclaims that "Islam is violent and teaches hate."

According to Hitler, "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. "

CONTINUED...

http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/1610

These neocons are neofascists.

That's no Big Lie.

Like all such nutjobs, they are working to remake the world.

Unfortunately, in the process many have died and billions more may follow.

That's not what good people do.

[EVDebs]

67. Psssst. Just to be 'subversive' to the Vulcan War Machine....

We need to get the movie 3 Days of the Condor put on TV, VCR, DVD and sell it through DU or whatever Democratic/Progressive outlets we can think of. The 'thesis' plotline of this old flick comes down to when Nixon was prez and planned on seizing Saudi oilfields. Redford ends the movie with him trying to publish the story, in front of the NYTimes building, as a 'whistleblower'; Cliff Robertson's CIA character dares him to try to publish. The movie ends ... well, I'll let you guess for those who haven't seen it.

The NYT in real life never really published the story until January 1 or 2, 2003, almost thirty years after the original '73 war plans with Nixon were made, and (gasp !) only AFTER the British leaked the story to the press and had already published.

Now, Iraq is the focus of oilfield seizure, and it looks like more adventure is on the way. Amory Lovin's www.oilendgame.com work is being ignored to boot. A $40 book is downloadable for free at his website.

Also check this from Ray McGovern's latest on truthout.org's site:
In an interview last year with US News and World Report, Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel said that on Iraq, "The White House is completely disconnected from reality … It's like they're just making it up as they go along."

[FreedomAngel82]

105. Just like during the DNC convention

I remember recently on a show I listen to someone phoned in and reminded the audience how one time some important person in Iraq's former government came on tv 12am Iraqi time to say some bs about wmd's and Hussein. Just as the convention was going. Funny how we don't have those anymore right? Wasn't there a scare recently and they didn't raise the terror alert? Gee, I wonder why.

[Karenina]

7. The info that Daniel Pipes

was up to his neck in this affair has been available since this latest "Neocons embrace Nutjobs" melding broke out into flames. Unfpotunately, at the time, many were too occupied having their prejudices lavishly fed to take note. :shrug:

[Octafish]

24. Flemming Rose interviews...Daniel Pipes.

It's a small world playing a broken neocon record:

Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear...

Flemming Rose interview:

The Threat of Islamism

by Flemming Rose
Jyllands-Posten
October 29, 2004

(Daniel Pipes's Introduction: This translation from Danish of "Truslen fra islamismen," was done anonymously and posted on the Internet. I am grateful for my translator into Danish, Mette Thomsen, for editing the text and improving it.)

According to Daniel Pipes, the Muslim world at the moment is trying, for the third time, to define itself in relation to the West. The two first attempts aimed at (or resulted in) imitating various aspects of the West. The third represents a totalitarian ideology, commensurate to fascism and communism.

SNIP...

Pipes subsequently delivers a cram course in the history of the Islamic world. "During the first 600 years of the history of Islam, being a Muslim was like playing on a winning team. It was an advanced society that got along well, materially as well as spiritually. It was a rich, powerful and healthy world. During the next 600 years, the Islamic world shut itself in and lost all connection to what happened elsewhere, not least in Europe. When Muslims in the 19th century discovered the wealth and power of the West, they asked themselves, perplexed and shocked: What went wrong, and how do we fix it? During the first 120-130 years, i.e., until the 1930s, they tried to imitate the liberal West, most of all France and Great Britain. During the next 60 years, on the contrary, they tried to imitate the non-liberal West, i.e. fascist and communist movements. Today, for the third time, they try to respond to the challenge of the West, and this time they have turned to early, non-liberal Islam. This also shall have its time and fail, and then they will try something different again. I believe that the next attempt will resemble the first one - the imitation of the liberal West – more closely than the other two", says Pipes with moderate optimism.

CONTINUED...

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3362

Gee. Of all the people in an oil-based economy to tick off...

[Mabus]

8. Pipes is connected to Wurmser which leads us back to the WH

From Pipes to Ms. Wurmser to Mr. Wurmser to Bolton, Cheney and the WH. I pretty sure Mr. Wurmser was a part of WHIG. Another one of the things that can make a person say "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

List of Experts on Islam, Islamism, and the Middle East http://www.meforum.org/experts.php

The following list of experts is provided to guide television and radio bookers, sponsors of lecture series, and others interested in booking knowledgeable specialists on Middle Eastern and Islamic issues.

The names are listed alphabetically, along with their areas of expertise and e-mail addresses.

***

Meyrav Wurmser
Director. Center for Middle East Policy
Hudson Institute
Bio: https://www.hudson.org/learn/index.cfm?fuseaction=staff_bio&eid=Wurmser
Areas of Expertise: Arab-Israel conflict, Israeli politics
Contact: [e-mail]

Who's Meyrav Wurmser? She married to WHIG David Wurmser

David Wurmser replaced Eric Edelman as Principal Deputy Assistant to the Vice President for National Security Affairs in the Office of Vice President Dick Cheney in early September 2003, after Edelman was named Ambassador to Turkey. <1> (http://www.world-crisis.com/analysis_more/86_0_15_0_M/) <2> (http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/24997.htm)

Wurmser, a neo-conservative, previously served as a "special assistant" to John R. Bolton at the State Department and was a former research fellow on the Middle East at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). (3) (http://www.hargravepublishing.com/IraqWar.htm)(4)

***

David Wurmser is married to Israeli-born Meyrav Wurmser, who co-authored a 1996 report by a task force convened by the IASPS and headed by Perle, called the 'Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000'. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=David_Wurmser

BTW, Where is Karen Hughes in all of this? Isn't she supposed to be doing PR in the Middle East? Or maybe, this is part of her handiwork. :tinfoilhat:

[blm]

14. This has been a typical tactic of theirs for 4 decades now.

.

[mom cat]

15. Perhaps all the Muslims shouting "Death to America" weren't so

off based as accused. Althoug Denmark may have been the publication place. the tag on the back side said "Made in America".

[Mabus]

16. I wish we had sociogram software

so we could connect the dots and show the connections graphically like they can at Name Base.

[mom cat]

37. What a way cool tool! I want to play with it sometime!

[centristo]

17. i think the question you need to ask

is "is it ok to counter blasphemy with murder?"

Last time I checked, we are in the 21st century. Personally, I think asinine and antiquated viewpoints should be treated as they are, not passed over due to fear of riling "religious or cultural" sensitivities. Religious fundamentalists will always exist in our society, but its up to the rest of us to keep them on the fringes.

Does this event help the neo-con agenda? Yea. Does it help Al Qaeda's agenda as well? Yup. Do all us level-headed moderates in the West and East get screwed over this? Big-time yes. These a-holes are going to get us all killed if we don't start speaking up.

[mom cat]

38. Part of the US strategy in Iraq was to shout over a bullhorn obsenities

about the manhood of Muslims and then shoot the men as they came out of their houses. The US works hard to play on the cultural vulnerabilities of other countries, even though it knows, or especially because it knows what the results will be. I do not like their reaction to the slander and think that it is self-defeating, but I am saying this from the context of my culture.
Frankly, I think it is despicable to incite to riot. It is like shouting "fire" in a theatre just to see the chaos and bloodshed.

[PsychoDad]

84. the tag on the back .....

Says that all too often anymore it seems.


Peace

[Octafish]

25. Great stuff, there, Mabus. Outstanding. Remember Mark Lombardi?

Lombardi created social networks out of the criminal conspiracies of the BFEE.

Here's "George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens," c. 1979-90, 5th Version, 1999:



A detail...



Just as he was achieving recognition for his greatness, he was "suicided."

After 9-11, the FBIs went to the museum to check out his work.

Details:

http://www.wburg.com/0202/arts/lombardi.html

BTW: Thanks for the heads-up on Pipes connection to Mr and Mrs. Wurmser, a most fulsome BFEE couple. WHIG is right. War for profit at the cost of thousands of American and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. And to think people aren't outraged...

[Mabus]

27. Showing the Six Degrees of Desperation (to control the world). n/t

[AntiFascist]

40. James R. Bath !!!!!

and Lombardi was suicided!

Who is James R. Bath?

A nodal point in Mark Lombardi's drawing George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens c. 1979-90, 5th Version, 1999, James R. Bath appears in the upper lefthand corner of the 16 1/2" x 41" piece of paper. The spatial syntax of Lombardi's drawings—which map in elegantly visual terms the secret deals and suspect associations of financiers, politicians, corporations, and governments—dictates that the more densely lines ray out from a given node, the more deeply that figure is embroiled in the tale Lombardi tells. Thirteen lines originate with or point to James R. Bath, more than any other name presented.

<snip>

James R. Bath, it turns out, is a Texas businessman, a sometime aeronautics broker whose firm, Skyway Aircraft Leasing, LTD., was a Cayman Islands front amassing money for use by Oliver North in the Iran-Contra affair. Bath also served as an agent minding American interests for a quartet of Saudi Arabian billionaires, one of whom was Sheik Salim bin Laden, the oldest son and heir of Sheik Mohammed bin Laden, father of fifty-four children including Osama. According to reports by the Houston Chronicle, the Wall Street Journal, Time, and others, Bath did business in his own name but with the Saudis' money; tax records indicate that he collected a fee of 5% on their multimillion dollar American investments. In 1979, Bath contributed $50,000 to Arbusto Energy, a limited-partnership controlled by George W. Bush. As Bath had little capital of his own, oil insiders trace the funds to his silent partners, specifically Salim bin Laden. Such cash infusions from Bath's client sheiks and George H.W. Bush's cartel cronies could not, however, prop Arbusto up. The venture collapsed in 1981 and merged into the Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation. Spectrum—still with W. at the helm—evolved through more near-failures and mergers into Harken Energy, which, in 1990, embarked upon a sweetheart deal to drill oil wells in Bahrain—this regardless of the fact that Harken had never drilled an overseas well, nor a marine well of any kind. Oil industry cognoscenti again assume that the Bahrain contract was orchestrated as a favor from the Saudis to the American chief executive and his family. The favor paid. On June 20, 1990, George W. Bush sold two-thirds of his Harken stock at $4 per share. Eight days later, Harken finished the second quarter with losses of $23 million; the stock promptly lost 75% of its value, finishing at just over $1 per share. Two months later, Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the Gulf War began. All these events are cited in Lombardi's drawing.

MUCH MORE...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/11/6/61854/9150

[Karenina]

51. Anyone seen that Bath feller lately?

:freak:

[Octafish]

63. Who's the bigger black sheep of the family?

Osama or Bush?

Osama’s at least declared himself an enemy of the United States.

The Coward of Crawford is too chicken to admit he’s a traitor.

The Bush-Saudi Connection

EXCERPT...

Jihad

SNIP...

Salem bin Laden, Osama’s brother, has conducted all his American affairs through James Bath, a Houston crony of the Bush family. Bath’s former business partner Bill White testified in court that Bath had been a liaison for the C.I.A. In 1979 Bath invested $50,000 in Arbusto, George W. Bush’s first business venture. Rumor had it that Bath was acting as Salem bin Laden’s representative. "In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests." (4)

In addition to doing aviation business with Saudi sheiks, Bath was part owner of a Houston bank whose chief stockholder was Ghaith Pharaon, who represented the Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI), a criminal global bank with branches in 73 countries. BCCI proceeded to defraud depositors of $10 billion during the ‘80s, while providing a money laundry conduit for the Medellin drug cartel, Asia’s major heroin cartel, Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, the C.I.A., and Islamist terrorist organizations worldwide. (5)

Big Three wheeler-dealer Khalid bin Mahfouz, one of the largest stockholders in the criminal bank, was indicted when the massive BCCI banking scandal blew apart in the early 1990s. The Saudi royal family placed him under house arrest after discovering that Mahfouz had used the royal bank to channel millions of dollars through fake charities into bin Laden’s organizations, but Mahfouz was not so much punished as inconvenienced. (6) Members of the Wahhabist Saudi oligarchy are driven by the sometimes conflicting emotions of power lust and religious fervor. Their support of radical Islamists follows from their ambition to dominate the Muslim world, but their fear that radical Islamists might overthrow the Saudi regime at home motivates them to fund and encourage holy warriors in countries other than their own.

As Daniel Pipes points out, jihad (holy war) is a central tenet of Muslim belief . "According to one calculation, Muhammad himself engaged in 78 battles, of which just one (the Battle of the Ditch) was defensive. Within a century after the prophet's death in 632, Muslim armies had reached as far as India in the east and Spain in the west. " (7) Pipes traces the bloody advance of fundamentalist jihadists against their twentieth century co-religionists. "Islamists, besides adhering to the primary conception of jihad as armed warfare against infidels, have also adopted as their own Ibn Taymiya's call to target impious Muslims. This approach acquired increased salience through the 20th century as Islamist thinkers . . . promoted jihad against putatively Muslim rulers who failed to live up to or apply the laws of Islam. The revolutionaries who overthrew the Shah of Iran in 1979 and the assassins who gunned down President Anwar Sadat of Egypt two years later overtly held to this doctrine. So does Osama bin Laden."

CONTINUED…

http://www.new-enlightenment.com/BushSaud.htm

...And they continued to hate happily ever after...

[FreedomAngel82]

109. Bath is dead now??

Really? I didn't know that.

[FreedomAngel82]

106. And something else I wonder

is if he was involved in the Wilson affair. :shrug:

[Nothing Without Hope]

11. Very important - needs many more Greaatest Votes

Here's one more. Thanks, Octafish! :hi:

[BelgianMadCow]

20. Very Very. Yep.

to 20 it is

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[BelgianMadCow]

30. It HAS been serious catching up and for the public it must be harder still

DU has got the main stories down since ages. You are one of those drawing the dots that outline the octopus.

Kurt Nimmo I didn't know before and I have to look up "Straussian" neocons :-)

thank YOU.

edit for non-native speakisms

[Clara T]

35. Straussian philosophy and teachings

In essence, the Straussian philosophy and teachings are now known as Neo-Conservatism. Below are some of the more interesting and perhaps surprising or even disturbing aspects of Neo-Conservatism as taught by Strauss:
• Nations cannot consider collective action and multilateralism unless it is 100               percent in line with their own selfish interests
• Strong leadership is required
• Military power is essential
• Leadership ought not be encumbered by human rights discourse or a moral conscience but nonetheless must "appear" to advocate such ideas.
• Rulers need not observe the laws they impose on the ruled.
• A ruler can cheat and lie and do all sorts of things but should at all time maintain the outside appearance of adherence to human rights and caring for people.
• Leaders can use religion as one of many tools to ensure the nation keeps on course as formulated.
• Outside threats help ensure social cohesion under domestic leadership
• Altruism, environmental protection, justice etc, are not the concern of governments and ruling elites. They have no part to play in the equation of power
• Strauss questioned how, and to what extent, freedom and excellence can coexist.
• Strauss was very pre-occupied with secrecy because he was convinced that the truth is too harsh for any society to bear; and that the truth-bearers are likely to be persecuted by society, especially a liberal society because liberal democracy is about as far as one can get from the truth as Strauss understood it.
• Secular society is the worst possible thing, because it leads to individualism, liberalism, and relativism, precisely those traits that may promote dissent that in turn could dangerously weaken society's ability to cope with external threats
• Nazism was a nihilistic reaction to the ungodly and liberal nature of the Weimar Republic.
• Religion should impose moral law on the masses who would otherwise be out of control.

Machiavelli’s political doctrine serves as the foundation of Neo-Conservatism and it denies the relevance of morality in political affairs. It states that that craft and deceit are justified in pursuing and maintaining political power.  It implies that when it comes to achieving or maintaining power the end justifies the means. This is essentially the core of Machiavellianism and serves as the foundation for Neo-Conservatism: The priority for the power holder is to keep the security of the state regardless of the morality of the means. Machiavelli discusses frankly, the necessity of cruel actions to keep power. He was in the business of power preservation not piety. According to the originator of Neo-Conservative ideology the leader of the state must stick to the good so long as he can, but, being compelled by necessity, he must be ready to take the way of the evil.

Let me repeat this last principle of Neo-Conservatism because it plays into the “believability factor” when considering claims made by people who accuse the Bush administration of unconscionable actions:  “The leader of the state must stick to the good so long as he can, but, being compelled by necessity, he must be ready to take the way of the evil.” These people believe that evil is acceptable and necessary at times!

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/the_truth_about_george_w__bush.html

[TheUnspeakable]

18. k&r I knew this had the stench of BFEE on it!!!

My favorite sentence..."Pipes’ frequent outbursts of racism -- designed to toss gasoline on the neo-cons’ lust for a wholesale conflict of cultures -- earned him a Bush nomination to the U.S. Institute of Peace, a congressionally funded think tank.


Everything bad (okay almost everything)ends up being tied to them.

[Octafish]

31. War is Peace.

What Juan Cole says:

Cole on Danish Caricatures in Salon.com

(Cole's complete) article on cartoongate is out over at Salon.com:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/02/09/culture/index_np.html

Excerpt:

After the cartoons were published on Sept. 30, right-wing Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen reacted to the angry response by refusing to meet with ambassadors from Muslim countries and sternly lecturing Muslims on their need to put up with the caricatures. He finally sounded a more conciliatory note this week, complaining of a global crisis. He was clearly worried, like another Dane, Prince Hamlet, about what would happen "if the rest of my fortunes turn Turk with me."

Muslim touchiness about Western insults to the prophet Mohammed must be understood in historical context. Most Muslim societies have spent the past two centuries either under European rule or heavy European influence, and most colonial masters and their helpmeets among the missionaries were not shy about letting local people know exactly how barbaric they thought the Muslim faith was. The colonized still smart from the notorious signs outside European clubs in the colonial era, such as the one in Calcutta that said, "Dogs and Indians not allowed."

Indeed, the same themes of Aryan superiority and Semitic backwardness in the European "scientific racism" of the 19th and early 20th centuries that led to the Holocaust against the Jews also often colored the language of colonial administrators in places like Algeria about their subjects. A caricature of a Semitic prophet like Mohammed with a bomb in his turban replicates these racist themes of a century and a half ago, wherein Semites were depicted as violent and irrational and therefore as needing a firm white colonial master for their own good.

(It is worth noting that in 2004 the Danish editor who commissioned the drawings, Flemming Rose, conducted an uncritical interview with the American neoconservative and Islamophobe Daniel Pipes. Pipes, an extreme right-wing supporter of the Israeli colonization of the Palestinian West Bank, has warned of the dangers of Muslim immigration into Denmark, claiming that "many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country" and that male Muslim immigrants made up a majority of the country's rapists.) '

SOURCE:

http://www.juancole.com/2006/02/cole-on-danish-caricatures-in-salon_09.html

Gee. We are at the tipping point, JennasLiver. May things fall for the best.

[AntiFascist]

21. Very important ! K & R Thanks Octafish!! n/t

[Octafish]

42. PNAC = HCPE

Thankee, AntiFascist.

HCPE stands for "Higher Circle Policy Elites," a term used to better define "Them" from Project Censored.

There's a PDF download at the end of this overview:

Inside the Global Dominance Group: 200 Insiders Against the World

February 9, 2006

By PETER PHIILLIPS

The leadership class in the US is now dominated by a neo-conservative group of some 200 people who have the shared goal of asserting US military power worldwide. This Global Dominance Group, in cooperation with major military contractors, has become a powerful force in military unilateralism and US political processes.

A long thread of sociological research documents the existence of a dominant ruling class in the US, which sets policy and determines national political priorities. C. Wright Mills, in his 1956 book on the power elite, documented how World War II solidified a trinity of power in the US that comprised corporate, military and government elites in a centralized power structure working in unison through "higher circles" of contact and agreement.

Neo-conservatives promoting the US Military control of the world are now in dominant policy positions within these higher circles of the US. Adbusters magazine summed up neo-conservatism as: "The belief that Democracy, however flawed, was best defended by an ignorant public pumped on nationalism and religion. Only a militantly nationalist state could deter human aggression Such nationalism requires an external threat and if one cannot be found it must be manufactured."

In 1992, during Bush the First's administration, Dick Cheney supported Lewis Libby and Paul Wolfowitz in producing the "Defense Planning Guidance" report, which advocated US military dominance around the globe in a "new order." The report called for the United States to grow in military superiority and to prevent new rivals from rising up to challenge us on the world stage.

At the end of Clinton's administration, global dominance advocates founded the Project for a New American Century (PNAC). Among the PNAC founders were eight people affiliated with the number-one defense contractor Lockheed-Martin, and seven others associated with the number-three defense contractor Northrop Grumman. Of the twenty-five founders of PNAC twelve were later appointed to high level positions in the George W. Bush administration.

http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/6297837.html#cutid1

CONTINUED...

Hits the neocon issholes smack on their pointy little head, that does.

[AntiFascist]

46. This pretty well sums it up...

"The belief that Democracy, however flawed, was best defended by an ignorant public pumped on nationalism and religion. Only a militantly nationalist state could deter human aggression Such nationalism requires an external threat and if one cannot be found it must be manufactured."

the problem is, this ultimately kills Democracy and leads to a new world order of fascism. The best way to defend democracy is through education and awareness.

[Nothing Without Hope]

22. This information needs to be sent to KEITH OLBERMANN:

[e-mail]

May the truth about this come out at last. The Muslims weren't scary enough for the fear-mongering neocons to get what they want - crushed Constitution and war in Iran - so they hatched this scheme.

[Octafish]

44. Thanks, Nothing Without Hope. Tell him about the CSP...

Here's where the Axis of Weasels meets:

Center for Security Policy

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/index.jsp?topic=mideast§ion=archive

Takes a while to download, but it's well worth it.

Among the BFEE turdball sub-luminosities writing dreck there, we find:

Michael Ledeen,

Daniel Pipes,

and

Tom DeLay.

[VOX]

23. And, for good measure, Daniel Pipes is a PNAC signatory.

Thanks, Octafish, for posting this **very** important information.

:kick:

[Octafish]

62. Tears of a Neocon

A certain class of people deserve special attention.

Fascists, for instance:

Tears of a Neocon

And Now the Good News, From Daniel Pipes

By JOHN WALSH
January 16, 2006
Counterpunch

Want to hear some good news? Try neo-con Daniel Pipes. When he weeps, we cheer, so check out his piece "My Gloom: Back to September 10" (NY Sun, 12/20. later reprinted in the Jerusalem Post). Most Americans felt less secure after September 11, although this feeling ran wildly beyond the rational. Not Pipes. The founder of the notorious Campus Watch , felt differently. He reports that a rush of security engulfed him: "The attacks of September 11, 2001, made me feel more secure, unlike most Americans. Finally, the country is focused on issues that had long worried me. The newfound alarm is healthy, the sense of solidarity heartening, the resolve encouraging." But Pipes fretted that it would not last. "Are Americans truly ready to sacrifice liberties and lives to prosecute seriously the war against militant Islam? I worry about US constancy and purpose."

And now Pipes says the verdict is in. "And right I was to worry, as the alarm, solidarity, and resolve of late 2001 have plummeted lately, returning us to a roughly pre-September 11 mentality."

At long last in 2001 Pipes had in hand the neocons' coveted "war against militant Islam," although how that phrase characterizes the secular, anti-Osama Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein remains a mystery. Ominously, Pipes asked after 9/11 whether Americans were willing to sacrifice "liberties" as well as "lives." And, alas for him, no sooner was his beloved war on Iraq up and running than the resolve of Americans began to wither in the face of the death toll in Iraq and the threats of a police state in the U.S. That is enough to ruin the day of any self respecting neocon. But there is more.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh01162006.html

Most importantly: You're welcome, KrazyKat!

Thank you for giving a damn about the Truth and how it affects our future.

[BelgianMadCow]

28. proud to kick

[Octafish]

65. It all comes back to 9-11: Steno Judy is a friend of Pipes...

...in the Satanic "Fellow Traveler" kind of way.

New York Times reporter Judith Miller accused of “hijacking” military unit in Iraq

More on the “newspaper of record” and WMD lies

By Bill Vann
27 June 2003

Three months into their occupation of Iraq, US military forces have failed to find any evidence of the supposed stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons that Washington claimed as the principal justification for invading the country. It is no longer possible to conceal the fact that the Bush administration lied to the American people to promote an unprovoked war of aggression.

SNIP...

In her capacity as a Middle East and WMD “expert,” Miller has functioned as a conduit for stories originating in US military and intelligence agencies, particularly those elements promoting the war against Iraq. In her recent reporting from occupied Iraq, this relationship has grown even more incestuous.

Citing multiple military sources, the Post’s Kurtz describes Miller’s “hijacking” of a US Army unit assigned to search for weapons of mass destruction, or WMD. According to Kurtz’s account, Miller played a key role in turning the unit—Mobile Exploitation Team (MET) Alpha—into what army officials characterized as a “rogue operation.”

According to Kurtz: “In April, Miller wrote a letter objecting to an Army commander’s order to withdraw the unit...from the field. She said this would be a ‘waste’ of time and suggested that she would write about it unfavorably in the Times. After Miller took up the matter with a two-star general, the pullback order was dropped.”

Apparently, US military commanders had concluded that the hunt for non-existent WMD had become a “waste” of the army’s time, but Miller, who was embedded with the unit, was operating on her own agenda and managed to overrule them.

SNIP...

Led by Daniel Pipes, the MEF not only advocated war against Iraq, but has urged US invasions of Syria and Lebanon as well. Its stated goals for US policy include “strong ties to Israel” and a “stable supply and cheap price of oil.” In addition to MEF, Pipes directs Campus Watch, a group dedicated to maintaining a blacklist of professors who are targeted for being hostile to Israel and US interests in the Middle East.

CONTINUED...

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/mill-j27.shtml

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/15/svGHRAIB_wideweb__470x356,0.jpg

From the Abu Ghraib Collection, "American Reich," prisoner in canvas, 6-by-4 foot cell, 2004.

Thanks for giving a damn, BelgianMadCow!

[stepnw1f]

29. I KNEW IT

Filthy Neo-Cons Chicken Hawk chicken-shits inciting mre violence towards our military.

[Octafish]

66. Who's War on Terror?

Makes for good press clippings at home and around the world.

Whose War on Terror?

The FBI says it should have full authority over investigations into terrorist financing. Not so fast, says Homeland Security. Plus, why some Muslims are furious over a Bush nominee to rebuild Iraq

Newsweek Web Exclusive
MSNBC.com
Updated: 3:57 p.m. ET Dec. 10, 2003

EXCERPT…

AN ‘ISLAMOPHOBE’ AND THE FUTURE OF IRAQ

Will a controversial neoconservative author who critics charge harbors anti-Muslim sympathies play a role in the reconstruction of Iraq?

That is the question behind the looming battle over President Bush’s nomination of Daniel Pipes to serve on the board of the U.S. Institute of Peace, an obscure federal agency that may become much better known now that Saddam Hussein’s regime has apparently collapsed.

Pipes is a prolific author and scholar whose views have generated a storm of controversy within the American Muslim community. Pipes strongly opposes Arab-Israeli peace talks. He has also vigorously advocated subjecting all Muslims to higher degree of scrutiny by U.S. law enforcement in order to help root out terrorist groups. U.S. Muslim groups are up in arms. The Council of American Islamic Relations (CAIR) has launched a campaign to block his nomination, branding him “an Islamophobe” with “bigoted” views.

Pipes dismisses the criticism, saying that the groups like CAIR are far too tolerant of extremists in their midst. “I’m against militant Islam,” he says, not “moderate Muslims.” Pipes, however, make no apologies for his advocacy of what amounts to law-enforcement profiling of Muslims in general, calling it “common sense” in the current environment. “If you’re looking for rapists, you don’t look at women,” he said in an interview. “If you’re looking for terrorists, you look at Muslims.”

But the fight over Pipes may be about more than symbolism. Although it started out as little more than a government-funded think tank, the Peace Institute has taken on an ever larger “operational” role in Bosnia and other countries that have been rife with conflict. White House aides—led by National Security Council staffer Elliot Abrams (a big Pipes booster)—have tapped the Peace Institute for a key role in the reconstruction of Iraq. This includes having Peace Institute officials serving as advisors to an Iraqi war-crimes tribunal and a proposed “Truth and Reconciliation Commission”-patterned after the one in South Africa—that will seek to expose the atrocities of Saddam’s regime.

CONTINUED...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3068377/site/newsweek/

Thanks for giving a damn about your fellow countrymen, stepnw1f. They, along with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani civilians, are innocent victims of Bushler and the neoconmen.

[stepnw1f]

77. I Do Give a Damn

Any person cheerleading for war better be willing to sacrifice their own lives in it first, before they point fingers and accuse me of being unpatriotic. I have a GREAT respect for our military men and women, because they have paid the biggest price for this country while these people sit on the sidelines preaching hypocrisy about American sacrifice, blah, blah, blah...

By the way, thank you for the work you do for DU. I really mean it.

[slaveplanet]

32. Tarpley was all over the Pipes connection

in recent interviews, he is outlining how dangerous this evil turd is, and he was going into information on his father too...

The editor of Jyllands Posten who ordered the publication of the cartoons is Flemming Rose, who has extensive connections to Daniel Pipes, another neocon fascist madman who runs Campus Watch, a neo-McCarthyite witch-hunting organization which vilifies American professors who criticize Israel or show sympathy for the Palestinians. President Bush wanted to name Daniel Pipes to the board of the US Institute of Peace, a government-funded arm of the State Department which organizes conferences and publishes books. When the raving extremist Pipes turned out to be too widely discredited to obtain Senate confirmation for this post, Bush forced his nomination through with a summer 2003 recess appointment to a temporary term at USIP without Senate approval. Daniel Pipes is the nepotist son of Richard Pipes, a Sovietologist who was a leading figure in George H.W. Bush's 1976 Team B, the incubator of today's neocon clique. At the time of his recess appointment, Daniel Pipes was accused by the very moderate Arab-American Institute of "hatred and bigotry" in the context of his "bizarre obsession with all things Arab and Muslim." (http://www.aaiusa.org/pr/release08-14-03.htm) This is the sick, racist point of view embraced by Jyllands Posten.

Flemming Rose provided details of his conversation with Daniel Pipes in a later article. They talked about the need to mobilize Europe for the war of civilizations against the Moslem world. Rose wrote: "Pipes is surprised that there isn't greater alarm in Europe over the challenge that Islam represents thanks to falling rates of fertility and a weakened sense for its own history and culture." (Flemming Rose, "The Threat from Islamism, Jyllands-Posten, October 29, 2004) The relation of such racist arguments to the Mohammed cartoons provocation should be clear enough.

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[Straight Shooter]

33. I see the name "Daniel Pipes" and my antenna go way up.

He is filth. No redeeming virtue whatsoever. I wonder if he even believes in his rhetoric, or if it's just proved to be a profitable and powerful position for him and so he sticks with it.

Either way, he is bad news. Nothing good ever results from Daniel Pipes' participation.

[Octafish]

80. Pipes certainly doesn't believe in democracy...

...or in the Constitution of the United States.

Here's how PNAC got it's military-industrial-intel-WallStreet-Mafia-NAZI-Octupus-BFEE loving groove:

Why are the feds probing long-dead "Scoop" Jackson?

A bizarre news story out of Washington State has us wondering how far the feds are going in probing the pro-Iraq war neocons and their ties to the Israeli lobby back in D.C. -- and whether some DOD/CIA types are frantically trying to cover their tracks.

Yesterday, a small paper out that way, the Everett Daily-Herald, carried a blockbuster of a story. It reported that a team of five federal agents -- three from the CIA, and one each from the Department of Defense and the the U.S. Department of Engery -- showed up at the University of Washington to search through the archival papers of the late Washington Sen. Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson. (We were alerted to the story off this posting on Daily Kos.)

"Scoop" Jackson was a Democratic "Cold Warrior" in Hubert H. Humphrey mode who twice ran unsuccessfully for president and who was a major player in American foreign policy during the 1960s and 1970s. He died in 1983 -- or more than two decades ago.

The federal team apparently found what it was looking for, after culling through some 1,200 boxes of Jackson's papers over several days. A library official (who's probably in a heap o' trouble right now for spilling the beans) said that 10 documents were removed and classified as top secret.

The paper doesn't know what the feds were looking for, and neither do we. Given the make-up of the team, including a DOE official, it's always possible there was concern about information related to nuclear weapons (the Hanford nuclear site is in Jackson's home state) getting in the hands of terrorists.

OR, this could be connected to the hottest under-the-radar story inside the Beltway right now, an FBI probe over whether insiders were passing policy secrets regarding Iran to the D.C.-based American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC. A Pentagon official named Larry Franklin has been targeted in the probe, but many suspect the investigation goes much deeper into the neo-con movement. Franklin worked for another Pentagon neo-con, Douglas Feith, who was the No. 3 official in the Defense Department but surprised many by abruptly quitting "to spend more time with his family."

Where does "Scoop" Jackson come in? Feith's mentor was former Pentagon official and influential conservative policy advisor Richard Perle. And from 1969 to 1980 Perle was a member of Jackson's staff and at times his most influential advisor, dubbed by some "the Prince of Darkness" during that era. Perle is so close to the Jackson legacy that he remains a member of the Henry M. Jackson Foundation that the senator established.

CONTINUED...

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001462.html

All they care about is death.

[Clara T]

34. Daniel Pipes- Ziad Abdelnour: Ending Syria's Occupation of Lebanon

Ending Syria's Occupation of Lebanon: The U.S. Role
Report of the Lebanon Study Group

Daniel Pipes and Ziad Abdelnour, Co-Chairs May 2000

SUMMARY - return to top

Lebanon has a number of abiding features that make it a significant place worthy and requiring of American attention. First, the United States and Lebanon have mutually benefited from a longstanding friendship. Ties between the two countries have seen American businesses and academic institutions flourish in Lebanon and Lebanese immigrants establish a strong community of close to three million in the United States. Second, the economic, personal and political freedoms found in Lebanon offer a model for the wider region that complements American strategic interests. To preserve Lebanon is to promote free market enterprise and democratic ideals. Third, Lebanon occupies an important place in a strategically vital corner of the world. This fact is cause for great alarm when considered with Syria's current domination as Lebanon has unwittingly become a breeding ground for various threats to the stability of the Middle East.

<snip>

Syrian hegemony has served Damascus well. It fortified a totalitarian regime by eliminating the perceived subversive influences. It has gained international leverage in foreign policy and military strategy. Syria has taken to economic exploitation through such tactics as dumping its labor surplus and products on Lebanese markets, tapping Lebanon's precious water supply, and by other more disguised and boldly illegitimate business practices. Each of these excesses helps to mask Syria's own potential instability. It is saddled with the heavy burdens of a backward economy showing negative growth, a population explosion, internal discontent, and unfriendly rivals among its immediate neighbors. As opposed to addressing these problems, in effect, Damascus is exporting them.

<snip>

Syria's impact on Lebanon does not bode well for American efforts in the Middle East. Lebanon is a significant and forceful presence in the Arab world and a beacon capable of leading its fellow Arab nations in the direction of religious tolerance, democracy and greater economic and social freedoms. Instead, Syrian ascendancy has brought about just the opposite. Syria's systematic alteration of Lebanon's character deprives the Arab world of the single, even if flawed, indigenous example of religious coexistence as well as political and personal freedom. Until Damascus removes its heavy-handed influence re-deploying its forces in accordance with the Ta'if agreement, endorsed by Syria in 1989, there will be no real and lasting peace in the region.

<snip>

Accordingly, U.S. policy has been soft on Damascus despite the latter's excesses in Lebanon, its official rogue status, and its troubling history with the United States (evidenced by its direct or indirect involvement in probably more American deaths than any other adversary since the Vietnam war). Both the United States and Israel have turned a blind eye to these offenses in an attempt to seduce Syria into a peace treaty. Addressing Syrian hegemony in this context has instilled Asad with the hope that he might not only avoid reprisal but achieve the tangible gains of Western aid, Israel's departure from Lebanon and the Golan Heights, and even possible approval of his regime and occupation of Lebanon. We believe that American foreign policy strategy must be refined to reflect a commitment to affecting a profound change in Lebanon. U.S. actions taken on behalf of Lebanon must aim to salvage the country's precious freedoms and anchor its regained sovereignty instead of continuing the course of recent decisions - to send an ambassador, to lift the travel ban, to have Secretary of State Albright visit - that have been small in scope and only designed to alleviate its suffering. Instead, the U.S. government must make the withdrawal of Syrian forces from Lebanon a top priority.

<snip>

Water - return to top

The Middle East faces the looming problem of water shortages because of both the area's hot and arid climate and its huge population growth. Aside from Turkey (which controls the sources of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers) and Iraq (through which those two rivers flow), the only Middle Eastern country blessed with a substantial supply of fresh water is Lebanon. Its high mountain ranges capture and retain impressive amounts of snow and moisture for several months, much of which eventually feeds subterranean aquifers and artesian wells. The landscape is dotted with springs, small streams, rivulets, and several sizable rivers like the Litani. Between 80 and 90 percent of Lebanon's flowing water, though, is lost for that which is not absorbed into underground storage, ends up in the sea. Assuming all of Lebanon's future water needs can be met using half of this wasted amount, harnessing and distributing the remaining half to neighboring countries like Israel, Syria, and Jordan would be a significant step in alleviating the impending regional water shortage.

Much More:
http://www.meforum.org/research/lsg.php







Pay attention folks. It's not playtime- these are some serious psycopaths playing out their necrophiliac fantasies on the world stage.

Don't forget the immortal remark of fellow traveller Michael Ledeen:
“Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show we mean business.”

[Octafish]

81. It's-it's-it's almost as if he 'predicted' the future.

Then again, it's easy for these BFEE turds. They never play unless it's the trifecta is fixed.

Yours is one heck of a post, Clara T! Thanks for spelling out how these turds make their most vile and evil dreams come true.

Your article references the importance of water to the region and how, um, one side has done all it can to corner the market. The future may see nations at war over water.

Today, the problem is petroleum. The USA is moving to corner the market, so to speak, by occupying Iraq and Iran. That's pretty much the lion's share of the black gold. China won't sit still for that. If they decide to take sides and things go nuke, there might not be much of a world left.

Which gets us back to Daniel Pipes, Micahel Ledeen, Eliott Abrams and the General Tommy Franks called the "fucking stupidest guy on the face of the planet," Doug Feith. The end of the world is exactly what they want. They figure, for them, it's survivable.

For the rest of us, it's curtains. At least, leaving it up to them.

[katty]

36. Pipes is one nasty piece of work-along with Michael Ledeen

[Octafish]

82. Two sides of the same turd.

Check out their treason to derail US-Iranian relations in order to boost their side's efforts to lead a post-Ayatollah Iran:

Pentagon/Israel Spying Case Expands:
Fomenting a War on Iran

By Juan Cole
Sunday, August 29, 2004

Here is my take on the Lawrence Franklin espionage scandal in the Pentagon.


EXCERPT...

So Franklin, Ledeen, and Rhode, all of them pro-Likud operatives, just happen to be meeting with SISMI (the proto-fascist purveyor of the false Niger uranium story about Iraq and the alleged Iran-Iraq plot against the rest of the world) and corrupt Iranian businessman and would-be revolutionary, Ghorbanifar, in Europe. The most reasonable conclusion is that they were conspiring together about the Next Campaign after Iraq, which they had already begun setting in train, which is to get Iran.

But now The Jerusalem Post reveals that at least one of the meetings was quite specific with regard to an attempt to torpedo better US/Iran relations:

The purpose of the meeting with Ghorbanifar was to undermine a pending deal that the White House had been negotiating with the Iranian government. At the time, Iran had considered turning over five al-Qaida operatives in exchange for Washington dropping its support for Mujahadeen Khalq, an Iraq-based rebel Iranian group listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department.

The Neoconservatives have some sort of shadowy relationship with the Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization or MEK. Presumably its leaders have secretly promised to recognize Israel if they ever succeed in overthrowing the ayatollahs in Iran. When the US recently categorized the MEK as a terrorist organization, there were howls of outrage from "scholars" associated with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (a wing of AIPAC), such as ex-Trotskyite Patrick Clawson and Daniel Pipes. MEK is a terrorist organization by any definition of the term, having blown up innocent people in the course of its struggle against the Khomeini government. (MEK is a cult-like mixture of Marx and Islam). The MEK had allied with Saddam, who gave them bases in Iraq from which to hit Iran. When the US overthrew Saddam, it raised the question of what to do with the MEK. The pro-Likud faction in the Pentagon wanted to go on developing their relationship with the MEK and using it against Tehran.

So it transpires that the Iranians were willing to give up 5 key al-Qaeda operatives, whom they had captured, in return for MEK members.

Franklin, Rhode and Ledeen conspired with Ghorbanifar and SISMI to stop that trade. It would have led to better US-Iran relations, which they wanted to forestall, and it would have damaged their proteges, the MEK.

Since high al-Qaeda operatives like Saif al-Adil and possibly even Saad Bin Laden might know about future operations, or the whereabouts of Bin Laden, for Franklin and Rhode to stop the trade grossly endangered the United States.

CONTINUED...

http://www.juancole.com/2004/08/pentagonisrael-spying-case-expands.html

War and Death (as long as someone else is doing the dying) and Power and Wealth (as long as it's someone else's treasure they are stealing). That's about it to these turds.

[Canuckistanian]

39. I knew there was an American neocon in there somewhere

This didn't sound like typical Danish behaviour.

[Octafish]

85. Neocon means Traitor

You know that, Canuckistanian.

CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group

Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat

by Jason Leopold
www.dissidentvoice.org
July 24, 2003

A half-dozen former CIA agents investigating prewar intelligence have found that a secret Pentagon committee, set up by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in October 2001, manipulated reams of intelligence information prepared by the spy agency on the so-called Iraqi threat and then delivered it to top White House officials who used it to win support for a war in Iraq.

More than a dozen calls to the White House, the CIA, the National Security Council and the Pentagon for comment were not returned.

The ad-hoc committee, called the Office of Special Plans, headed by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and other Pentagon hawks, described the worst-case scenarios in terms of Iraq’s alleged stockpile of chemical and biological weapons and claimed the country was close to acquiring nuclear weapons, according to four of the CIA agents, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the information is still classified, who conducted a preliminary view of the intelligence.

The agents said the Office of Special Plans is responsible for providing the National Security Council and Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice and Rumsfeld with a bulk of the intelligence information on Iraq’s weapons program that turned out to be wrong. But White House officials used the information it received from the Office of Special Plans to win support from the public and Congress to start a war in Iraq even though the White House knew much of the information was dubious, the CIA agents said.

For example, the agents said the Office of Special Plans told the National Security Council last year that Iraq’s attempt to purchase aluminum tubes were part of a clandestine program to build an atomic bomb. The Office of Special Plans leaked the information to the New York Times last September. Shortly after the story appeared in the paper, Bush and Rice both pointed to the story as evidence that Iraq posed a grave threat to the United States and to its neighbors in the Middle East, even though experts in the field of nuclear science, the CIA and the State Department advised the White House that the aluminum tubes were not designed for an atomic bomb.

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http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Jan04/Nimmo0131.htm

Would more people read. What a different world this would be...

Thank you for giving a damn, Canuckistanian.

PS: Are you from Canada? If so, please know that I love Canada. I live north of there.

[bleever]

41. Another brilliant post, Octafish.

This cartoon episode stunk for the get-go. Don't the neocons have a motto something like "create the conditions"?

What sealed it for me was Condi saying that Syria and Iran were using this to their advantage. Translation: we're using this to our advantage.


:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Octafish]

90. Thanks, bleever. Have ya heard about Ledeen and the Yellowcake?

The neoconmen lied us into war with Iraq.

The cartoon thing is just their way of helping lie us into war with Iraq.

The technique is as old as terror.

Michael Ledeen’s Fingers in the Niger Yellowcake

Kurt Nimmo, Another day in the empire

October 25, 2005

Some of us, those who pay attention, have suspected for some time the fraudulent Niger yellowcake documents—so crudely slapped together as to be laughable—are tied to Michael Ledeen, the neocon’s neocon, who is connected to the neofascist Italian military intelligence agency, SISMI. Ledeen’s role in dispensing these bogus documents—a puzzle piece fitting into the larger scam used as a pretext by Bush and Crew to invade a helpless Iraq—is so well-known it has made it into the Wikipedia entry on the yellowcake forgery:

In an interview published April 7, 2005, was asked by Ian Masters what he would say if it was asserted that the source of the forgery was former National Security Council and State Department consultant Michael Ledeen. (Ledeen had also allegedly been a liaison between the American Intelligence Community and SISMI two decades earlier.) Cannistraro answered by saying: "you’d be very close."

Ledeen’s connection to SISMI goes way back—all the way back to Ledeen fingering the late and pathetic brother of Jimmy Carter, Billy, for allegedly hanging out with Yasser Arafat and George Habash, a PLO military leader, in Libya in October of 1978. Ledeen accused Carter of taking loans and expense money from the Libyans. (Obviously, this an old trick, used over and over, as the neocons now accuse British MP George Galloway of taking money from Saddam).

"'SISMI was the architect of the scandal over Billy Carter,’ and that the material in this case was gathered mostly by Pazienza and by his American friend Michael Ledeen," Edward S. Herman and Frank Brodhead write in their book, The Rise and Fall of the Bulgarian Connection (Sheridan Square Publications, 1986). As it turns out, Francesco Pazienza "was ultimately indicted in an Italian court (with Ledeen as an unindicted co-conspirator) for luring President Carter’s brother Billy into a compromising relationship with Qaddafi during the 1980 presidential campaign," explain Jonathan Marshall, Peter Dale Scott, and Jane Hunter (The Iran-Contra Connection: Secret Teams and Covert Operations in Reagan Era,1987). In short, Ledeen is a dirty trickster, having cavorted with fascist elements in SISMI to undermine a presidential election in the United States. (see the Wikipeadia entry on Ledeen.)

As usual, though, when dealing with all things neocon, it gets worse. "Negroponte. Ledeen. Boykin. North. Kerek. If these figures make you uneasy, they should. An Italian investigation has uncovered an underground, parallel police network with possible links to the CIA which may be involved in the slaying of Niccola Calipari and Il Diario reporter Enzo Baldoni, the extraordinary rendition of Abu Omar and Nigergate," the Daily Kos wrote in July.

Abu Omar (aka Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr) was the CIA asset (according to the Chicago Tribune) kidnapped off the streets of Milan (subsequently to disappear, a not uncommon fate for CIA assets). Niccola Calipari was a SISMI agent shot and killed while escorting the Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena out of Iraq after she was released from kidnappers. Both Sgrena and Enzo Baldoni were working on Fallujah stories when they were abducted (Baldoni was executed).

Mark Zepezauer adds:

Many members of Operation Gladio were also in a shadowy organization known as P-2; it too was financed by the CIA. P-2 had connections with the Vatican and the Mafia, and eventually with an international fascist umbrella organization called the World Anti-Communist League…. One of P-2’s specialties was the art of provocation. Leftist organizations like the Red Brigades were infiltrated, financed and / or created, and the resulting acts of terrorism, like the assassination of Italy’s premier in 1978 and the bombing of the railway station in Bologna in 1980, were blamed on the left. The goal of this "strategy of tension" was to convince Italian voters that the left was violent and dangerous-by helping make it so.

It appears Michael Ledeen, the "influential" neocon, was involved in Gladio operations past and is also linked to the faux Niger yellowcake documents cooked up by Italian intelligence, as noted above.

Now we have Laura Rozen, citing a scoop from the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, telling us Nicolo Pollari, chief of the fascist SISMI, "brought the Niger yellowcake story directly to the White House after his insistent overtures had been rejected by the Central Intelligence Agency in 2001 and 2002. Sismi had reported to the CIA on October 15, 2001, that Iraq had sought yellowcake in Niger, a report it also plied on British intelligence, creating an echo that the Niger forgeries themselves purported to amplify before they were exposed as a hoax." Pollari met with none other than Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley. "Their secret meeting came at a critical moment in the White House campaign to convince Congress and the American public that war in Iraq was necessary to prevent Saddam Hussein from developing nuclear weapons…. La Repubblica also quotes a Bush administration official saying, 'I can confirm that on September 9, 2002, General Nicolo Pollari met Stephen Hadley.’"

Let’s review: Ledeen is suspected of working on the forged Niger yellowcake documents and Nicolo Pollari, chief of the fascist SISMI, passed these off to the highest levels of the Bush administration, and these documents played a big part in the invasion of Iraq and the mass murder of more than a 100,000 Iraqis.

CONTINUED...

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=17174

When it comes to the neoconmen, it's everywhere for those who look.

Too bad so few take the time to read.

If America knew about these guys, the jails would overflow...

PS: Thank you for giving a damn, bleever. It isn't me. I just post what I see.

[NuttyFluffers]

47. my suspicions are gathering truth and being confirmed, bit by bit.

thanks for this. required reading, i think. K&R :kick:

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[PsychoDad]

48. Very interesting....

Thanks for this post. Very interesting reading.

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[Swamp Rat]

49. His face belongs here:

:kick:

[Octafish]

94. The ugly puss certainly does. October Surprise Watergate Vietnam Dallas

The same faces keep showing up...

Iran-Contra II?

Fresh scrutiny on a rogue Pentagon operation.

By Joshua Micah Marshall, Laura Rozen, and Paul Glastris

On Friday evening, CBS News reported that the FBI is investigating a suspected mole in the Department of Defense who allegedly passed to Israel, via a pro-Israeli lobbying organization, classified American intelligence about Iran. The focus of the investigation, according to U.S. government officials, is Larry Franklin, a veteran Defense Intelligence Agency Iran analyst now working in the office of the Pentagon's number three civilian official, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith.

The investigation of Franklin is now shining a bright light on a shadowy struggle within the Bush administration over the direction of U.S. policy toward Iran. In particular, the FBI is looking with renewed interest at an unauthorized back-channel between Iranian dissidents and advisers in Feith's office, which more-senior administration officials first tried in vain to shut down and then later attempted to cover up.

Franklin, along with another colleague from Feith's office, a polyglot Middle East expert named Harold Rhode, were the two officials involved in the back-channel, which involved on-going meetings and contacts with Iranian arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar and other Iranian exiles, dissidents and government officials. Ghorbanifar is a storied figure who played a key role in embroiling the Reagan administration in the Iran-Contra affair. The meetings were both a conduit for intelligence about Iran and Iraq and part of a bitter administration power-struggle pitting officials at DoD who have been pushing for a hard-line policy of "regime change" in Iran, against other officials at the State Department and the CIA who have been counseling a more cautious approach.

Reports of two of these meetings first surfaced a year ago in Newsday, and have since been the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Whether or how the meetings are connected to the alleged espionage remains unknown. But the FBI is now closely scrutinizing them.

While the FBI is looking at the meetings as part of its criminal investigation, to congressional investigators the Ghorbanifar back-channel typifies the out-of-control bureaucratic turf wars which have characterized and often hobbled Bush administration policy-making. And an investigation by The Washington Monthly -- including a rare interview with Ghorbanifar -- adds weight to those concerns. The meetings turn out to have been far more extensive and much less under White House control than originally reported. One of the meetings, which Pentagon officials have long characterized as merely a "chance encounter" seems in fact to have been planned long in advance by Rhode and Ghorbanifar. Another has never been reported in the American press. The administration's reluctance to disclose these details seems clear: the DoD-Ghorbanifar meetings suggest the possibility that a rogue faction at the Pentagon was trying to work outside normal US foreign policy channels to advance a "regime change" agenda not approved by the president's foreign policy principals or even the president himself.

The Italian Job

The first meeting occurred in Rome in December, 2001. It included Franklin, Rhode, and another American, the neoconservative writer and operative Michael Ledeen, who organized the meeting. (According to UPI, Ledeen was then working for Feith as a consultant.) Also in attendance was Ghorbanifar and a number of other Iranians. One of the Iranians, according to two sources familiar with the meeting, was a former senior member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard who claimed to have information about dissident ranks within the Iranian security services. The Washington Monthly has also learned from U.S. government sources that Nicolo Pollari, the head of Italy's military intelligence agency, SISMI, attended the meetings, as did the Italian Minister of Defense Antonio Martino, who is well-known in neoconservative circles in Washington.

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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0410.marshall.html

Very much appreciate your mug, Swamp Rat.

[Wilms]

50. K&R n/t

[Octafish]

97. Thanks, Wilms! Do Neocons Still Dream of Iran?

Still Dreaming of Tehran

by ROBERT DREYFUSS & LAURA ROZEN
The NATION
from the April 12, 2004 issue

EXCERPT...

Leading the charge against Iran is AEI's Michael Ledeen, perhaps best known for setting in motion the US-Israeli arms deal with Iran in the mid-1980s that became known as Iran/contra. Supporting Ledeen's position are two other AEI fellows: Richard Perle, the ringleader of the neocons and a former member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, and David Frum, a Weekly Standard contributing editor and the former White House speechwriter who coined the phrase "axis of evil." In their new book, An End to Evil, Perle and Frum call for a covert operation to "overthrow the terrorist mullahs of Iran." Speaking to retired US intelligence officers in McLean, Virginia, in January, Ledeen called Iran the "throbbing heart of terrorism" and urged the Bush Administration to support revolutionary change. "Tehran," he said, "is a city just waiting for us."

Ledeen is viewed skeptically by many experts, including at the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency. "Ledeen doesn't know anything about Iran," says Juan Cole, a professor at the University of Michigan who is an expert on the Shiites of Iran and Iraq. "He doesn't speak Persian, and I believe he has never been there." But Ledeen does have connections in the Iranian exile community. For the past two years, he has maintained a relationship with Manucher Ghorbanifar, the Iranian wheeler-dealer who worked closely with him in Iran/contra. Ledeen introduced Ghorbanifar to a key neoconservative official, Harold Rhode, a longtime Pentagon staffer who speaks Arabic, Farsi, Turkish and Hebrew and who until recently served in Iraq as a liaison between the Defense Department and Ahmad Chalabi. Rhode and another Pentagon official, Larry Franklin, have been talking to Ghorbanifar about options for regime change in Tehran. "They were looking at getting introduced to alleged sources inside Iran, who could give them some inside information on the struggles in Iran," said Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA counterterrorism chief. Ghorbanifar, he said, was spinning tall tales about alleged (but unsubstantiated) transfers of Iraqi uranium to Iran's nuclear weapons program.

Rhode and Franklin were critical players in the campaign for war against Iraq. In 2002 they helped organize the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans, the Iraq war-planning unit whose intelligence staffers are now under investigation by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for allegedly manipulating evidence about Iraq's nonexistent weapons of mass destruction and ties to terrorism. Both the OSP and the Rhode-Franklin effort on Iran were run out of the office of Douglas Feith, the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and a key neocon ally. Their initiative on Iran reportedly drew a sharp protest from the State Department. Newsday quoted a US official who said that the entire effort was designed to "antagonize Iran so that they get frustrated and then by their reactions harden US policy against them."

There is widespread disagreement about both Iran's intentions in Iraq and the extent of its capability to cause mischief there. But there is a consensus that Iran can exercise significant power. It has close ties to the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, whose Badr Brigade paramilitary force of about 10,000 was trained by Iran's Revolutionary Guard, and to the forces of Muqtada al-Sadr, a 30-year-old Shiite firebrand. "There are thousands of Iranian intelligence agents and operational agents inside Iraq today, and the border is completely open," says Amatzia Baram, an Israeli expert on Iraq.

SNIP...

The "realists" inside the Bush Administration, led by Secretary of State Colin Powell and Coalition Provisional Authority head Paul Bremer in Iraq, are well aware that Iran could deal a fatal blow to the already faltering US efforts. Partly as a result, they've engaged in a quiet dialogue with Tehran. According to the Financial Times, last May Iran offered a "road map" for normalizing US-Iranian relations. Since then, Powell and his allies have sent assistance after the devastating earthquake in southeast Iran, and offered to send a delegation led by Senator Elizabeth Dole. They've also supported efforts by Germany, France and Britain to work a deal with Iran over its nuclear weapons program. (Germany's intelligence service also brokered a prisoner exchange between Israel and Hezbollah, which is close to Iran.) But of late, some of those conciliatory efforts have stalled. A planned Congressional staff delegation to Tehran, the first since the rise of Ayatollah Khomeini's regime in 1979, was canceled by the Iranians, according to the office of Senator Arlen Specter, whose staff was to participate. And after the initial harmony, signs are emerging of a serious split between Washington and Europe over Iran's nuclear program, with echoes of the US-Europe split over Iraqi WMD.

How the differing approaches--the neocons' war cries and the realists' more conciliatory strategy--are viewed by Iran's leadership is anybody's guess. But there are at least several factors that might push the Iranian ruling elite in the direction of the confrontation the neocons want. First, the hard-line clergy are in the midst of a crisis with the so-called reformists. In the past, the mullahs have used anti-US rhetoric, and even militant actions, to trump liberal and reformist rivals. Second, while Iran welcomes the rise of Shiite power in Iraq, it is at the same time uneasy about losing influence to the mullahs in Najaf and Karbala. According to several experts on Shiism, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani is now the leading Shiite cleric in the world, which could make him a rival to Iran's less prestigious clerics. Though Sistani has foiled US policy in Iraq by insisting on direct elections, he has refused to denounce the US occupation and may cooperate with a UN-brokered compromise for creating an Iraqi government. "Sistani is a double-edged sword for Iran," says Juan Cole. And third, there is the Bush factor. Some neoconservative strategists argue that Iran will act decisively in order to prevent Bush from being re-elected. Raymond Tanter, a scholar at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a pro-Israel think tank, predicts, "They are going to launch a political-military campaign in an effort to defeat President Bush, because they believe that if Bush is re-elected, he will do to them what he did to Iraq."

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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040412/dreyfuss

Real sweethearts, these gangsters.

[NNN0LHI]

52. I seen Pipes spewing his anti-Muslim hate on C-Span once and a caller...

...asked him what his religion was. He wouldn't answer the callers question.

Don

[PsychoDad]

53. I would guess.....

Reptilian.

And thanks to Swamp Rat for the Pipes Graphic :)

Peace

[Octafish]

101. His religion: Team B

Guys like Pipes are pipsqueaks.

Neo-Conservative Ascendancy in the George W. Bush Administration

The origins of neo-conservative thinking (cont.)

Some of the other neo-conservatives to have worked with Scoop Jackson are William Kristol (son of Irving Kristol), Elliott Abrams (son-in-law of Norman Podhoretz) and Frank Gaffney. Perle and Abrams, working out of Jackson's office, used the issue of Jewish emigration from the Soviet Union to undermine U.S.-Soviet détente. Jackson sponsored legislation that made the Soviet Union's gaining "most favoured nation status" contingent on an increase in Jewish emigration.

In 1973 Jackson, Daniel Patrick Moynihan and other similarly minded Democrats set up the Coalition for a Democratic Majority, which favoured hawkish policies on Defense and national security. Elliott Abrams was a member, as were Norman Podhoretz, Jeane Kirkpatrick (who would later become Reagan's Ambassador to the UN) and Stephen Bryen. As Nixon's ambassador to the UN in the 1970s, Moynihan he was markedly pro-Israeli.

The policy analyst and journalist Jim Lobe noted in an interview with ABC TV in February 2003 that in the mid-1970s Wolfowitz became a key figure in the development of neo-conservatism when he served on a body called 'Team B' - a group of analysts chosen by hawks in the Ford administration who were already working with people in Senator Jackson's office, particularly Richard Perle.

The hawks took issue with CIA estimates of Soviet strategic abilities and intentions. Wolfowitz wrote a chapter in a study by Team B in which he said the CIA had been much too optimistic in its estimates of U.S. advantage over the Soviet Union. Wolfowitz claimed that the Soviet Union was preparing for a war in which it would prevail in a nuclear exchange.

Jim Lobe described Team B as "hammering some very important nails in the coffin of détente by the mid-70s under the Ford administration and that really was its purpose, that's why it was selected. Wolfowitz is very highly regarded at that time as a strategic analyst and he becomes a key player in this very hardline faction."

At the time Donald Rumsfeld was in his first incarnation as Defense Secretary, and he helped establish Team B. This helped Rumsfeld outmaneuver Henry Kissinger who was trying to work out an arms-control agreement with the Soviet Union.

The creation of Team B and the undermining of the CIA and the U.S. intelligence community forged an alliance between the neo-conservatives from Scoop Jackson's office, who were still Democrats, and Republican right-wingers of the Donald Rumsfeld type.

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http://www.philosophynotes.com/politics/neocon_ascendancy8.htm

These war turds are the sons of the military-industrial Octopus.

It's old hat to you, Don.

It's news to too many.

Thanks for giving a damn.

[malaise]

54. Thanks for this

In all things Bushco, start with who benefits and work backwards. It never fails. Create chaos and wag that dog.

[Octafish]

107. BINGO. Pipe's dad, Richard Pipes, was Team Leader for TEAM B.

Here'a Who's Who of Team B.

That's where Intel was slanted to make the Soviets look like a bigger threat than they were.

The trillions wasted ended up in somebody's numbered Swiss bank account.

Team B Strategic Objectives Panel

John S. Foster, Jr., organizer
Richard Perle
Daniel Pipes
Richard Pipes, team leader
Donald Rumsfeld, promoter
William Van Cleave, member
Paul Wolfowitz, member

Committee on the Present Danger


The most notorious attempt by militarists and right-wing ideologues to challenge the CIA was the Team B affair in the mid-1970s. The 1975-76 “Team B” operation was a classic case of threat escalation by hawks determined to increase military budgets and step up the U.S. offensive in the cold war. Concocted by right-wing ideologues and militarists, Team B aimed to bury the politics of détente and the SALT arms negotiations, which were supported by the leadership of both political parties.

The historical record shows that the call for an independent assessment of the CIA’s conclusions came from the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB--pronounced piffy-ab). But the fear-mongering and challenges to the CIA’s threat assessments--known as National Intelligence Estimates--actually started with nuclear strategist Albert Wohlstetter, who laid down the gauntlet in a 1974 Foreign Policy article entitled “Is There a Strategic Arms Race?” Wohlstetter answered his rhetorical question negatively, concluding that the United States was allowing the Soviet Union to achieve military superiority by not closing the “missile gap.” Having inspired the Gaither Commission in 1957 to raise the missile gap alarm, Wohlstetter applied the same threat assessment methodology to energize hawks, cold warriors, and right-wing anticommunists in the mid-1970s to kill the politics of détente and increase budget allocations for the Pentagon.

Shortly after President Gerald Ford appointed Bush to be the new director of intelligence, replacing the beleaguered William Colby, Bush authorized PFIAB’s plan for an alternative review. The review consisted of three panels: one to assess the threat posed by Soviet missile accuracy; another to determine the effect of Soviet air defenses on U.S. strategic bombers; and a third--the Strategic Objectives Panel--to determine the Soviet Union’s intentions. The work of this last panel, which became known as the Team B Report, was the most controversial. As Paul Warnke, an official at the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency at the time of the Team B exercise, wrote: “Whatever might be said for evaluation of strategic capabilities by a group of outside experts, the impracticality of achieving useful results by ‘independent’ analysis of strategic objectives should have been self-evident. Moreover, the futility of the Team B enterprise was assured by the selection of the panel’s members. Rather than including a diversity of views ... the Strategic Objectives Panel was composed entirely of individuals who made careers of viewing the Soviet menace with alarm.” (4)

Team members included Richard Pipes (father of Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum) and William Van Cleave, both of whom would become members of the second Committee on the Present Danger, as well as Gen. Daniel Graham, whose “High Frontier” missile defense proposal foreshadowed President Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), or “Star Wars.” The team’s advisory panel included Paul Wolfowitz, Paul Nitze, and Seymour Weiss--all close associates of Albert Wohlstetter. Although Richard Perle played no direct role in Team B, he was instrumental in setting it up. It was Perle who had introduced Richard Pipes, a Polish immigrant who taught Czarist Russian history at Harvard, to Sen. Henry Jackson, catapulting Pipes into a clique of fanatically anti-Soviet hawks. Pipes, who served as Team B’s chairman, later said he chose Wolfowitz as his principal Team B adviser “because Richard Perle recommended him so highly.” (5)

The Team B Report, released as an “October surprise” in an attempt to derail Jimmy Carter’s 1976 presidential bid, argued that “Soviet leaders are first and foremost offensively rather than defensively minded.” The team had arrived at this conclusion of Soviet intent from an assessment of the USSR’s capabilities, but they ignored evidence pointing to an opposite conclusion. Although it was true that the Soviets had been expanding their military capacity in the early 1970s, the USSR’s military production--along with the Soviet economy in general--began to stagnate by the mid-1970s. Dismissing this new trend, Team B accused the CIA of consistently underestimating the “intensity, scope, and implicit threat” posed by the Soviet Union. By relying on technical or “hard” data rather than “contemplat Soviet strategic objectives,” charged the panel, the CIA was setting up the United States for defeat in the cold war.

SNIP...

The Team B report paved the way for the second Committee on the Present Danger, which formed weeks after Team B had released its findings. The committee’s first major policy statement, titled What Is the Soviet Union Up To? was written by Team B leader Richard Pipes, who along with other participants in the Team B exercise--including Foy Kohler, Paul Nitze, and William Van Cleave--were founding members of the Committee on the Present Danger.

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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/2822

These devils are the scum of the earth.

[Binka]

55. This Thread Reminded Me Of Why I Fell In Love With You Another Heart Octa!

I like the IRC site and they have a good profile of Pipes and a slew of GREAT articles. My father played golf over the holidays with James Woolsey. I don't think I'll ever have a relationship with him again. He's getting worse.

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1316

[thebigidea]

56. Wh-wh-what? I demand vicious slanderous gossip!

Woolsey! What a snake. He probably tried to sell your father on personally bombing Iran around the 3d hole.

[Binka]

57. Hey You PM Me! What Is Going On With Your Health?

Do you need help? My father was probably bombed himself by the third hole. Please write me...I wanna help...we have such a lovely history my friend...

[Octafish]

108. Thanks, Binka! By any chance is your Dad a Navy man?

If so, he might enjoy this...



A baby clown triggerfish, one of the happiest-looking creatures ever to inhabit this tiny blue sphere.

Regarding Pipes:

That man is the son of a man who helped build the military industrial complex, Richard Pipes.

In his mind, he probably thought he was being a patriot.

In reality, a solid case can be made for him being a traitor.

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/2822

Thanks for the kind words, Binka.
Don't be too hard on your pops.
Our minds are like holograms.
It's most difficult to incorporate new information comes in that doesn't match what's preceded.
Our brains freeze.
Truth is the heat for the thaw.
Keep working on changing his outlook, a bit at a time.
The moment will come when he recognizes Woolsey and the rest for the warmongering turds they are.

[Kolesar]

58. "The Moslems loathe themselves because they suck and they know it"

"Arabs too". My introduction to Daniel Pipes was listening to him speak to the Cleveland City Club while I was painting my living room. He had this most condescending thesis. "Their world is mad because they have been stagnant for half a millenium while the rest of the world has developed technology, culture, wealth and power. " It sounded like it was implausible, but Pipes wrapped it all in a shroud of intellectual historical knowledge. Not everyone was impressed, though. Some of the questioners at the lecture knew his material and did skewer the neocon good in the following moments.

Note: there is satire in this post.

[Octafish]

112. Pipes' crowd made 'Liberal' into a TRILLION dollar bad word, too.

There's a reason for that.

Liberals and Arabs and Jews and Christians and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists and Humanists and Atheists and everybody and anyone who thinks other people are important know what kind of evil scum these turds are.

That means everyone who is A)Good. B)Smart. C)Awake.

Not the kind of people who neocons want around.

Team B: The trillion-dollar experiment

Two experts report on how a group of Cold War true believers were invited to second-guess the CIA.
Did the "outside experts" of the 1970s contribute to the military buildup of the 1980s?

By Anne Hessing Cahn
April 1993 pp. 22, 24-27 (vol. 49, no. 03) © 1993 Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists


EXCERPT...

In July 1976, Director of Central Intelligence George Bush let a PFIAB subcommittee suggest members of the three B teams; in August he wrote to the president that "morale at the CIA is improving." <5>

Each B team met in September and October and exchanged drafts with their CIA counterparts during October. The first press leak occurred two days after the first meeting of the CIA and Team B members who were examining Soviet strategic policy and objectives. William Beecher's story in the October 20 Boston Globe contained leaks by at least one Team B member who conveyed to the journalist only his recommendations, not those of his fellow panelists. According to Leo Cherne, then chairman of PFIAB, Director of Central Intelligence Bush was aghast at the leak and stormed into the Old Executive Building accusing members of PFIAB of being the leakers. Cherne assured Bush that this was not the case, and that "members of PFIAB were sufficiently smart to recognize that any publicity would invalidate what had been a serious effort." <6> The story was not picked up and seemed to fade from view.

However, after the Democrats won the election and President-elect Jimmy Carter had ignored Bush's hint that up to now, CIA directors had not changed with an incoming administration, George Bush, the foe of leaks, agreed to meet with David Binder of the New York Times. The same director who wrote to President Ford in August 1976, "I want to get the CIA off the front pages and at some point out of the papers altogether," now made sure that Team B would become front-page news. <7>

On Sunday, December 26, the lead New York Times story was about Team B. Bush appeared on Meet the Press, and three separate congressional committees vowed to hold hearings on the whole exercise. Although officials within the new Carter administration paid scant attention to the Team B reports, the spadework had been done. In particular, the Pipes panel's major conclusions had been publicly and repeatedly aired.

Meanwhile, back in November, nine days after the presidential election, the Committee on the Present Danger issued its founding statement, "Common Sense and the Common Danger." "The principal threat to our nation, to world peace and to the cause of human freedom is the Soviet drive for dominance based upon an unparalleled military buildup. . . . The Soviet Union has not altered its long held goal of a world dominated from a single center--Moscow." If this sounded similar to the conclusions of Richard Pipes's Team B panel, it was hardly surprising; panel members Paul Nitze, Richard Pipes, and William Van Cleave had leading roles in the committee.

Even before the Team B report was officially presented to PFIAB, Pipes was eager to publicize its findings. He opened a December 7 meeting by discussing the possibility of declassifying the report. After the CIA rejected declassification, Pipes said that "he would urge PFIAB to make the Team B report available to as large an audience as possible. If his appeal to PFIAB were rejected . . . he mentioned . . . the publication of articles on the general subject of the report without reference to classified information. . . . Pipes also raised the possibility of using the Freedom of Information Act to get the report into the public domain." <8>

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http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=apr93cahn

Money. Money. Money.

The roots of evil.

[Just Me]

59. Figures. Pipes is such a hateful biggot.

:grr:

[Octafish]

113. War Wimps generally are. Take Darth Rumsfeld. Please.

Weird.

Darth Rumsfeld

By Jason Vest
Issue Date: 2.26.01

Since Donald Rumsfeld's appointment as secretary of defense was announced on December 28, approbatory phrases have been the order of the day. The Washington Post cast him as "elder statesman," while The New York Times characterized him as a "tough-minded manager." At his January 11 confirmation hearing, the servile aria started by the press was taken up by the Senate Armed Services Committee: Save for a few pointed questions on fiscal oversight by Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona and Senator Robert Byrd, the West Virginia Democrat, Rumsfeld's hearing could have passed for a mannerly colloquy of academics discussing the future of defense. On January 20, moments after George W. Bush was sworn in, Donald Rumsfeld--"Rummy," as he is known to his friends--was confirmed by the Senate.

To longtime defense policy observers and arms control advocates, watching the restoration of Rumsfeld to the Pentagon has been disconcerting. Though genuflected to by the Washington press corps and political establishment as a genteel graybeard, the real Rumsfeld may be, in fact, much closer to Darth Vader, both on defense issues and as a practitioner of politics. "The notion that he's a gray eminence," laments William Hartung, the World Policy Institute's veteran defense analyst and a longtime Rumsfeld watcher, "is, in large part, based on press laziness."

During his confirmation hearings and in the press, there has been hardly any mention of Rumsfeld's participation in a slew of far-right organizations going back to the 1970s. Nor has there been any real acknowledgment that the watershed ballistic missile panel he headed in 1998 was not the levelheaded "bipartisan" effort it claimed to be but, rather, a distressing flashback to one of the most outrageous intelligence manipulations of the Cold War. That the supposedly "moderate" chairman of this commission had an egregious conflict of interest has also escaped attention.

And while a few profiles have made passing references to Rumsfeld's Machiavellian power politicking during the Ford era, few seem to comprehend just how formidable he is likely to be within the Bush administration. Indeed, there's a striking parallel between the new administration's power structure and the regime Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney effectively controlled nearly 30 years ago, in which the duo set up a dominant advisory axis to a perceptibly weak-on-national-security president, in part by marginalizing a high-profile secretary of state seen as too moderate. Back then, Rumsfeld had a reliable coterie of protégés and comrades he could depend on in the service of furthering his goals. Three decades later, a new generation of Rumsfeld admirers is obsessed with the idea that a completely effective nuclear missile defense system can be deployed, giving America the power to use "peace through strength" in dealing with the rest of the world.

Killing SALT II

In 1975, when Gerald Ford fired James Schlesinger from the Pentagon and replaced him with Donald Rumsfeld, Washington's hawks were apoplectic: While Schlesinger was an advocate of big defense spending, Rumsfeld was an unknown; worse, he was seen to be a sop to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

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http://www.prospect.org/print/V12/4/vest-j.html

All they worship in this world is death.

[leftchick]

60. Juan Cole mentioned him in a Salon article last week

MFer....

<snip>

(It is worth noting that in 2004 the Danish editor who commissioned the drawings, Flemming Rose, conducted an uncritical interview with the American neoconservative and Islamophobe Daniel Pipes. Pipes, an extreme right-wing supporter of the Israeli colonization of the Palestinian West Bank, has warned of the dangers of Muslim immigration into Denmark, claiming that "many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country" and that male Muslim immigrants made up a majority of the country's rapists.)

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/02/09/culture/

[mom cat]

61. Check out the linkages with Pipes! Great tool for finding interconnections

http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?_PIPES_DANIEL_

[The Stranger]

64. That is amazing.

[mom cat]

78. I just picked it off of someone's reply to a post, and now I can't remembe

who. I can't wait to have tome to play with it.

[bloom]

72. Connections also listed here:

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1316

Individuals

Richard Pipes
Ziad Abdelnour
Paul Wolfowitz
Richard Perle
Elliott Abrams
Douglas Feith
Michael Rubin
David Wurmser
Paula Dobriansky
Frank Gaffney
Michael Ledeen
Jeane Kirkpatrick
George W. Bush

Institutions

U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon
Middle East Forum
Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Project for the New American Century
Foreign Policy Research Institute

"...In 2000, for example, he (Pipes) co-produced with Ziad Abdelnour and the U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon a report calling for the United States to force Syria from Lebanon and to disarm it of its alleged weapons of mass destruction. The document, titled "Ending Syria's Occupation of Lebanon: The U.S. Role?" argued that "Syrian rule in Lebanon stands in direct opposition to American ideals" and criticized the United States for engaging rather than confronting the regime. Regarding the use of force, the document reasoned: "The Vietnam legacy and the sour memories of dead American Marines in Beirut notwithstanding ... the United States has entered a new era of undisputed military supremacy with an appreciable drop in human losses on the battlefield. ... This opens the door to a similar decision to act for Lebanon 's endangered freedoms and pluralism. But this opportunity may not wait, for as weapons-of-mass-destruction capabilities spread, the risks of such action will rapidly grow."

Among the all-star cast that signed the document were several future Bush administration figures, including Elliott Abrams, Douglas Feith, Michael Rubin, David Wurmser, and Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs Paula Dobriansky. Other signers included Richard Perle, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Michael Ledeen, and Frank Gaffney.... "

[mom cat]

79. What a great research site! Thanks for the tip!

[Nikki Stone 1]

68. Want a real tin foil hat theory? I think that the cartoons were all about

Iran, creating support for a US strike into Iran by showing how "violent" Muslims are. It was a way of scaring Europe. Sort of like the fires in France last Fall. I think TPTB are working overtime, getting operatives both in publishing and those infiltrated into radical Muslim groups activated so that the people of the US and Europe will back funding, armies, etc. for an attack on Iran. In other words, political theater.

:tinfoilhat:

[FreedomAngel82]

110. You're on the money

I remember reading an article a while back how there was a country who printed Mohammad cartoons in the 90's and no rioting there. In fact I think I actually saw it this past week on Stephen Colbert's show. I'm not for sure though. Does anybody know?

[Octafish]

115. World War III or Bust: Implications of a US Attack on Iran

The facts show you are correct, Nikki Stone 1.

Pipes and Co. want a war with Iran.

They were willing to lie America into war with Iraq.

They are now preparing to lie America into war with Iran.

Too bad what that means for the rest of humanity...

WWIII or Bust: Implications of a US Attack on Iran

by Heather Wokusch
Published on Saturday, February 18, 2006 by CommonDreams.org

"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous... Having said that, all options are on the table."
-- George W. Bush, February 2005

Witnessing the Bush administration’s drive for an attack on Iran is like being a passenger in a car with a raving drunk at the wheel. Reports of impending doom surfaced a year ago, but now it’s official: under orders from Vice President Cheney’s office, the Pentagon has developed “last resort” aerial-assault plans using long-distance B2 bombers and submarine-launched ballistic missiles with both conventional and nuclear weapons.

How ironic that the Pentagon proposes using nuclear weapons on the pretext of protecting the world from nuclear weapons. Ironic also that Iran has complied with its obligations under the Non-Proliferation Treaty, allowing inspectors to “go anywhere and see anything,” yet those pushing for an attack, the USA and Israel, have not.

The nuclear threat from Iran is hardly urgent. As the Washington Post reported in August 2005, the latest consensus among U.S. intelligence agencies is that “Iran is about a decade away from manufacturing the key ingredient for a nuclear weapon, roughly doubling the previous estimate of five years.” The Institute for Science and International Security estimated that while Iran could have a bomb by 2009 at the earliest, the US intelligence community assumed technical difficulties would cause “significantly delay.” The director of Middle East Studies at Brown University and a specialist in Middle Eastern energy economics both called the State Department’s claims of a proliferation threat from Iran’s Bushehr reactor “demonstrably false,” concluding that “the physical evidence for a nuclear weapons program in Iran simply does not exist.”

SNIP...

The most horrific impact of a US assault on Iran, of course, would be the potentially catastrophic number of casualties. The Oxford Research Group predicted that up to 10,000 people would die if the US bombed Iran’s nuclear sites, and that an attack on the Bushehr nuclear reactor could send a radioactive cloud over the Gulf. If the US uses nuclear weapons, such as earth-penetrating “bunker buster” bombs, radioactive fallout would become even more disastrous.

SNIP...

A domestic terrorist attack would do the trick. Just consider how long Congress went back and forth over reauthorizing Bush’s Patriot Act, but how quickly opposing senators capitulated following last week’s nerve-agent scare in a Senate building. The scare turned out to be a false alarm, but the Patriot Act got the support it needed.

Now consider the fact that former CIA Officer Philip Giraldi has said the Pentagon’s plans to attack Iran were drawn up “to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States.” Writing in The American Conservative in August 2005, Giraldi added, “As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States.”

Chew on that one a minute. The Pentagon’s plan should be used in response to a terrorist attack on the US, yet is not contingent upon Iran actually having been responsible. How outlandish is this scenario: another 9/11 hits the US, the administration says it has secret information implicating Iran, the US population demands retribution and bombs start dropping on Tehran.

CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0218-28.htm

These neocons are serious nutjobs.
It's like they want to end all life on the planet...themselves excluded, of course.
Now THAT's evil.

[Orrin_73]

69. Everything becomes clear now

Daniel Pipes who could have thought!!!

[Octafish]

116. Pipes is a son of a father of the military-industrial complex.

Don't know if he's a bastard, but he's a bastard.

Richard Pipes

From SourceWatch

Richard Pipes (http://www.benadorassociates.com/pipesrichard.php), according to his Benador Associates' biography, has been a "Professor of History at Harvard University for over 40 years, is one of the world's leading authorities on Soviet, Russian and Caucasian history. His expertise has led governments, organizations, and publications to seek out his advice.

"In addition to being a senior professor at Harvard, Richard Pipes has served as Director of Harvard's Russian Reasearch Center (1968-73), as an expert for the Russian Constitutional Court (1992), as Director of the National Security Council's East European and Soviet Affairs team (1981-82), as a member of the State Department's Reagan Transition Team (1980), and as Chairman of the CIA's "Team B" to Review Strategic Intelligence Estimates (1976). He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

"Mr. Pipes is a member of the editorial boards of Strategic Review, Orbis, International Journal of Intelligence and CounterIntelligence, Continuity, Journal of Strategic Studies, East European Jewish Affairs, and Nuova Storia Contemporanea..

"Richard Pipes is the author of 18 published books, the most recent being Communism: A Brief History (2001, Random House), Land-tenure in Pre-Roman Antiquity and its Political Consequences (2001, Coambridge, Mass.), Prosperity & Freedom (1999, Alfred A. Knopf), and Three 'Whys' of the Russian Revolution (1996, Random House of Canada). His books have been published in 12 languages. Mr Pipes has also edited 6 books."

Gee. They ask us to continue at RightWeb, a nice place for spotting these bed-wetting chickenhawk warmongers:

Further information

Source: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/pipes_r/pipes_r.php Right-Web

Richard Pipes, a Russian historian at Harvard University, was a key anti-Soviet crusader in the 1970s and 1980s. He served as a consultant to Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (aka "the senator from Boeing") in the early 1970s, was a member of the Committee on the Present Danger, and chaired the Team B Strategic Objectives Panel, a controversial effort in the mid-1970s to reinterpret CIA intelligence on the Soviet threat.

Although no longer a key rightwing player, Richard has successfully passed his hardline mantle on to his son, Daniel Pipes, a controversial neocon commentator on Middle East affairs. In 2003, when George W. Bush chose Daniel to serve on the board of the U.S. Institute of Peace, the ensuing barrage of criticism prompted the president to bypass Congress and make Pipes a recess appointment to the institute.

In her book Killing Détente: The Right Attacks the CIA (1998), Anne Cahn writes: "The man finally selected to serve as chairman of the Team B Strategic Objectives Panel was Richard Pipes, a Polish immigrant and professor of Russian history at Harvard University. Pipes had consistently labeled the Soviets an aggressive imperialistic power bent on world domination. He had been 'discovered' by Richard Perle, who convinced his boss, Senator Henry Jackson, to hire Pipes as a consultant." (5)

Pipes also played an instrumental role in selecting other Team B participants, including Paul Wolfowitz. In an interview with Cahn, Pipes said, "I picked Paul Wolfowitz because Richard Perle recommended him so highly."

As part of the Team B exercise, Pipes and his esteemed team of outside experts--which also included William Van Cleave (and counted on the support of John S. Foster and Donald Rumsfeld in oppostion to realpolitikers like Henry Kissinger, who saw the exercise as being hazardous to U.S.-Russian relations (7))--were charged by then-CIA head George H.W. Bush with assessing National Intelligence Estimates regarding Soviet strategic capabilities and intentions. Although the purported purpose of the exercise was to come up with an unbiased analysis of the Soviet threat, according to Cahn "the Team B experiment was concocted by conservative cold warriors determined to bury détente and the SALT process. Panel members were all hard-liners. The experiment was leaked to the press in an unsuccessful attempt at an 'October surprise.' But most important, the Team B reports became the intellectual foundation of 'the window of vulnerability' and of the massive arms buildup that began toward the end of the Carter administration and accelerated under President Reagan." (6)

Pipes is the author of several books, including The Russian Revolution, Russia Under the Bolshevik Regime, and Property and Freedom. In 1992, Pipes served as an expert witness in the Russian Constitutional Court's trial against the Communist Party.

His son is Daniel Pipes, the extreme right-wing Zionist.

The BFEE is multi-generational.

[bloom]

70. There is also the Bilderberg connection.

...And of course there were the usual prime ministers and U.S. government officials. Also present were the movers and shakers of the Western media including media heads from almost all the countries whose press chose to publish the insulting cartoons. The names of Messers Michael Ledeen, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, however, must ring some bells.

Also on the list of attendees was one Anders Eldrep from Denmark. Anders Eldrep (sometimes spelled as Eldrup) happens to be married to one Merete Eldrep. This lady is the managing director of company JP/Politikens Hus (JP for Jyllands-Posten) that published the slanderous anti-Islamic cartoons in Denmark.

Neither Anders Eldrep is an ordinary Tom, Dick or Harry nor his wife exactly a babe in woods not to have understood the repercussions of their actions.

Merete Eldrep, the wife, is a former Head of Secretariat at the Ministry of Economic and Business Affairs and Deputy Director of the Danish Energy Authority.

And Anders Elderp, her illustrious husband, is the current Chairman of Denmark’s Oil and Natural Gas Company DONG and has been Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Danish Finance up to the year 2001. He also has attended the last FIVE Bilderberg meetings thus far. Interestingly, a previous editor-in-chief of 'Politiken', another of JP/Politikens Hus's newspapers, namely Toger Seidenfaden, too was a long-time Bilderberger.

http://www.bilderberg.org/2006.htm#Fountainhead

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[bloom]

73. From the Guardian article - provocation as a tool/policy

"The prime minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, is quoted as saying: "Freedom of speech should be used to provoke and criticise political or religious authoritarians."

[bloom]

74. Iranian News blog - opinion of Pipes -

Many of us have wondered how our die-hard royalists have managed to be so much in the public eyes, in the Op-Ed pages, and on various TV and radio programs, ever since the criminal and tragic terrorist attacks of September 11 took place. The facts may now be emerging: The activities of our die-hard royalists might be handled by an agency called the Benador Associates, which arranges their TV appearances and speaking engagements, and helps to place their articles in newspapers. The agency is run by Eleana Benador. The Benador Associates has also been granted a contract to develop educational books for children of Afghanistan (just imagine the contents of those books!). According to Brian Whitaker of the Guardian, the website of Robert Guzzardi, a Pennsylvania wealthy man and a strong supporter of Israel, exhibits photographs of a fun party attended by Ms. Benador, Senator Joseph Lieberman (Al Gore's running mate in the 2000 elections), Daniel Pipes, and Mr. Reza Pahlavi! In addition to Daniel Pipes, both Michael Ledeen and Michael Rubin are also Ms. Benador's clients. So, our future leader, if the dreams of our die-hard royalists come true, is in great company!

Who is Daniel Pipes, that keeps Mr. Reza Pahlavi's company? He is the leading American Islamophob. Here are some of the positions that he has taken regarding the Middle East and muslims. In an article in the Jerusalem Post, Mr. Pipes wrote:

"There is no escaping the unfortunate fact that Muslim government employees in law enforcement, the military, and the diplomatic corps need to be watched for connections to terrorism, as do Muslim chaplains in prisons and the armed forces. Muslim visitors and immigrants must undergo additional background checks. Mosques require a scrutiny beyond that applied to churches, synagogues and temples. Muslim schools require increased oversight to ascertain what is being taught to children."

In other words, in Mr. Pipes opinion, muslims cannot even be second-class citizens of the US, let alone first-class. They should be watched all the time, and Pipes and company should be able to dictate to muslims what they should teach to their children! Needless to say, We Iranians are, of course, in the same boat, if for no reason other than the fact that most of us have muslim names and are originally from an Islamic country.

http://www.payvand.com/news/03/apr/1141.html

also today's article re: cartoons:

Islam vs. Democracy Is A Useless Debate

http://www.payvand.com/news/06/feb/1121.html

[Binka]

75. Kick This Puppy

:kick:

[NNN0LHI]

83. Kick it again n/t

[Nikki Stone1]

86. ok, why not...

:)

[Jara sang]

87. Man this had psyop written all over it.

I posted it many times, noting the close relationship Danish Special Ops forces have with American Special Ops.

http://www.rand.org/publications/randreview/issues/rr.08.02/hardshelled.html

"Once we heard he was moving, my guys went off and put together a plan in 30 minutes. And 30 minutes later, it was all over. The whole operation, coordinating 40 U.S. and Danish special forces, was a great example of how all the training we've had in combined and joint operations can work and succeed in the field." The effort involved U.S. Air Force Special Forces, Danish Special Forces, U.S. Navy SEALs, and U.S. Army conventional air assets.

[robertpaulsen]

88. Another fantastic find, Octafish!

Here's more on this PNAC whore:

Daniel Pipes, the son of notorious anti-Soviet crusader Richard Pipes, has made a name for himself lambasting Arab politics, urging U.S. military intervention in the Middle East , and warning of the impending threat to U.S. security posed by Islamic extremists. On this last point, the Boston Globe reported, "If Pipes's admonitions had been heeded, there might never have been a 9/11." (1)

On the other hand, "if Pipe's admonitions had been heeded," the United States might also be at war with most of the Arab world. In 2000, for example, he co-produced with Ziad Abdelnour and the U.S. Committee for a Free Lebanon a report calling for the United States to force Syria from Lebanon and to disarm it of its alleged weapons of mass destruction. The document, titled "Ending Syria's Occupation of Lebanon: The U.S. Role?" argued that "Syrian rule in Lebanon stands in direct opposition to American ideals" and criticized the United States for engaging rather than confronting the regime. Regarding the use of force, the document reasoned: "The Vietnam legacy and the sour memories of dead American Marines in Beirut notwithstanding ... the United States has entered a new era of undisputed military supremacy with an appreciable drop in human losses on the battlefield. ... This opens the door to a similar decision to act for Lebanon 's endangered freedoms and pluralism. But this opportunity may not wait, for as weapons-of-mass-destruction capabilities spread, the risks of such action will rapidly grow."

Among the all-star cast that signed the document were several future Bush administration figures, including Elliott Abrams, Douglas Feith, Michael Rubin, David Wurmser, and Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs Paula Dobriansky. Other signers included Richard Perle, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Michael Ledeen, and Frank Gaffney. (5, 6)

Because of his hardline take on Arab affairs, many observers were outraged when President Bush announced in early 2003 Pipe's nomination to the U.S. Institute of Peace. Pipe's neocon friends rallied behind him, arguing that Pipes was really just someone who realizes that racial profiling was the bitter pill we had to swallow to end the terrorist threat.

more...

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1316

[oasis]

89. kick

[oasis]

95. Kick into President's Day.

[Blue_Tires]

96. ttt--great find!

[FreedomAngel82]

98. Ding ding ding

The Illumanti is behind this.

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=7020

[FreedomAngel82]

99. All you have to do

is look at how the Bushies are using this for their own gain...they're using this as an excuse to go to Iran.

[Karenina]

114. And an efficient, effective tool

to whip up Western bigotry to manufacture consensus for yet another atrocity.

[oasis]

117. Pipes exposed.(n/t)

[oasis]

118. kick