Did Cheney pay for quail party? Is this Illegal LOBBYING and BRIBERY?

[HamdenRice]

I've documented elsewhere that Katharine Armstrong the distraught hostess, is indeed a lobbyist with lots of Iraq construction business and military contracting business before the administration.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x417384

Also, the Armstrong Ranch owner, Ann Armstrong has enriched Cheney immensely by helping to appoint him CEO of Halliburton when she was on Halliburton's board.

The Armstrong's were big contributors to Bush, and Bush rewarded them with public board positions in Texas.

Therefore, if Cheney did not pay for his time on the Armstrong Ranch, I think there is an excellent case to be made that Cheney and Armstrong was engaged in illegal lobbying and bribery.

[Rick Myers]

1. Since he didn't have the 'stamp' for his license

It's technically POACHING!

[HamdenRice]

2. What I mean by pay for is not the license -- the gift from the Armstrongs

Don't you see? It's just like what brought down Delay -- free trips to Scotland and all. This was a trip to hunt quail on a luxurious ranch owned by a family doing lobbying work before Bush and Cheney.

And the connections go back decades -- intertwined business dealings.

[onenote]

3. I'm confused -- what was the bribe?

What did Cheney do in return for this "bribe"? And how is going hunting illegal lobbying?

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[HamdenRice]

4. Remember why Delay went down?

Among other things taking expensive gifts from lobbyists, including free golf trips.

Katharine Armstrong is a lobbyist for a firm doing business in Iraq and and aircraft defense contractor.

If she was discussing business with Cheney will providing a free hunting trip, that's illegal. That's bribing Cheney to listen to her business proposals.

She was very adamant, but coy in the papers -- something to the effect, of I don't remember every lobbying the VP.

But the Armstrong's have been intertwined with Cheney for years, going back into Halliburton.

That's why they were covering this up -- not the shooting, not liquor, not girlfriends.

This is illegal lobbying! It's impeachable.

Cheney could go down over this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x417384

[onenote]

10. A lot of assumptions being made

The indictment of Delay related to violations of Texas law relating to campaign finance law violations (specifically, the use of corporate money to advocate for the election/defeat of a candidate). It wasn't about lobbying. The issue in the golf trips was that a registered lobbyist paid for the travel. If it was illegal to play golf or go hunting with a lobbyist, there would be hundreds of indictments of both Democrats and repubs. At this point, it is unclear whether (a) Armstrong is a registered lobbyist and (b) who paid for Cheney's travel. He's done this same hunting trip for years. Its not a secret. So its unlikely that the "cover up" has anything to do with lobbying issues.

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[HamdenRice]

11. answer and question:

(a) Armstrong is a registered lobbyist by her own admission and

(b) who paid for Cheney's travel -- or his stay at the ranch -- that's the very question I'm asking.

And Armstrong had over $4 billion in business before the administration from just one client - Parsons - in Iraq.

[blm]

5. It seems the Armstrongs have made billions being friendly with Bush-Cheney

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[HamdenRice]

6. Yes and Cheney made millions from the Armstrongs ...

He was a public servant with a public servant's wealth before becoming CEO of Halliburton while Anne Armstrong was on the board of Halliburton.

And Anne also knows all about Iran contra, central american death squads, everything about bush I.

Now daughter Katharine represents Iraq contractors, and military contractors, which Cheney doles out.

If the frequent hunting trips at "old family friends" ranch were freebies, and they discussed business, Cheney is going down.

[Sydnie]

8. I believe I read somewhere posted here today that the dinner

conversation was political in nature discussing Iran, North Korea and other things. Things that make you go hummmm.

[Karenina]

9. Indeed.

[tridim]

7. I can't decide what's worse.. that he didn't pay, or that *WE* payed

for his little quail-tard/lawyer hunting trip.