On Olbermann they said 90 yards!!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

that's the first I've heard that far away. Even the Fish & Wildlife report said 30 yards.

The doc he was talking to said 15-30 for those injuries.

WTF?

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. 90 yards is almost a football field. Not buying.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. That's why I'm sooo confused. Keith usually has his facts straight.

:shrug:

[txindy]

34. He must have meant 90 feet OR 30 yards. And he misspoke.

Too bad. That would've been a good point to hammer home.

[liveoaktx]

27. VIDEO on how close with doctor interview and chart

no, not 90 yards

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. Tomorrow it will be:

"Pepper missed him completely."

[Pirate Smile]

3. Was that a screw up? I've been seeing 30 yards for the past few

days.

I thought the point was that it couldn't have happened from 30 yards. It had to be closer. When Keith said 90, I thought :wtf:

[TomInTib]

14. He misspoke right after correcting his calling a Killdeer a deer.

[henslee]

15. Could be a slip up. Maybe he menat 90 feet.

[RB TexLa]

5. Not sure he would have even noticed beign hit by bird shot at 90 yards

[hexola]

6. I think he mispoke - 30 yards = 90 ft (nt)

[Pirate Smile]

18. That makes sense.

[David Zephyr]

28. Same thought. I think you are right.

:thumbsup:

[YDogg]

30. I concur.

[Ksec]

7. at 90 yards there would be no penetration.

They wouldnt even get that far.

I say it was about 15 yds, tops.

[TheDebbieDee]

8. I think he meant 90 feet............

[hexola]

12. I only heard the 90 yards reference once - from the guest...

Did Keith say 90 yards?

[understandinglife]

9. That's just b*hit. 15 yards max; probably 10.

Peace.

[tridim]

10. It was 30 feet a few days ago

I'm thinking it was closer to "point blank". Keep in mind the witnesses are all controllable and they had almost 24 hours to get their story strait.

[Gabi Hayes]

11. he also had an apologist from the Texas Monthly on, downplaying

the whole thing

notice how they almost never have anybody on from the REAL Texas magazine, with actual journalists: Texas Observer

[Blue_In_AK]

13. Keith was confused...

earlier he said 30 yards. I think he's just got his yards and feet mixed up.

[threadkillaz]

16. 90 feet. Here is Corpus Christi Shotgun Demo Video

http://www.caller2.com/specials/2006/gun_demo/index.html

They did it at 90 feet (30 yards) to show the spread on a human target.

It appears that spread is larger than just the upper chest and face even at 30 yards.


My bet is that he was closer than 90 feet.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

20. Thanks for that link.

I hadn't seen it. :)

[Frosty1]

17. 11-50 yard says sheriffs report on smoking gun report

[hexola]

19. 30 yards - maybe thats how much beer they drank!!! (nt)

[schrodingers_cat]

21. I was in a similar situation as that lawer, up in remote Alaska

(remote Alaska means everyone carries a gun). Some jackass down by the pond, somewhere between 100 and 200 feet away, had his eye on a duck, and although we were clearly visible on the small hill above him, the duck spooked, he took a bead on it and fired. Pellets rained down in the dust all around us - a perfect parabolic arch - but they were quite scattered and not a one hit us. This leads me to believe that he was much closer as well. Just my 2 cents.....

[Imalittleteapot]

22. Who is "they"? Surely KO didn't buy it - right?

[indie_voter]

23. KO, he misspoke or was confused. n/t

[Imalittleteapot]

26. Whoops. Thanks. I'm watching the dog show.

[XOKCowboy]

24. No way and that puts Cheney shooting even lower...

That can't be..

[lonestarnot]

25. KO made an oooooops!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

29. He Messed Up, And Will Now Probably One Of His Own Worst People Tomorrow.

Betcha he makes light of it lol.

[hexola]

31. Just corrected himself at the end of the show...(nt)

[doc03]

32. This shot was at most 15 yards or 45 feet. Source NRA Firearms

Fact Book. I heard the last couple days the distance was 30 yards. Well, the reports I heard he was shot in the the upper left chest and neck area and I saw a drawing on a news report today that showed a pattern of about 15" at the most. According to the NRA Firearms Fact Book I have, the rule of thumb for the spread of a shotgun pattern from a gun with a (full choke) barrel is 1" for each yard hence a 15" pattern at 15 yards. Of the chokes the (full choke) gives you the smallest pattern spread. The other common chokes used are the (modified choke) which gives a larger pattern spread and there is the (improved cylinder) choke which gives you a much wider pattern. I have never hunted quail but I would guess you shoot them at a fairly close range and you would use a more open choke such as the (improved cylinder) which would probably give a pattern of twice that of a (full coke). In addition to that the 28 Ga. shotgun is a very light gun compared to the 12 ga. that is most popular and I can't imagine that at 30 yards the shot from even a 12 ga. could penetrate to the heart. This could be easily proved by any gun expert that knows how many BB's are in a 28 ga. shell and the ballistics of that round.

[librechik]

33. Ko corrects his mistake--90 feet, not yards, and doc thought that too far

panic over