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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:19 AM
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'Sons are Used to Force Their Fathers Talk in Abu Ghraib'
Here it comes. The Abu Ghraib pics are being shown in Australia, and now we have US Sergeant Samuel Provance coming forward to speak TRUTH TO POWER about prisoner's children being tortured to get information. It's about to hit the fan!



'Sons are Used to Force Their Fathers Talk in Abu Ghraib'
By Anadolu News Agency (aa), Washington, Sydney
Published: Wednesday, February 15, 2006
zaman.com


US Sergeant Samuel Provance, who was demoted after witnessing the mistreatment of Iraqi captives in Abu Ghraib prison near Bagdat (Baghdad), claimed the children of Iraqi detainees were used to force their parents into talking.

Reportedly, Provance told of the ill-treatment of a 16-year-old boy who was arrested along with his father, Iraqi General Hamid Zabar, in a session at the US House of Representatives.



Provance, witnessing the ill-treatment carried out by one of his colleague, said, “In order to make Zabar talk, his 16 years old son was exposed to bad treatment.”

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=hotnews&alt=&trh=20060215&hn=29805
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:22 AM
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1. If the pics are being shown in Australia,
does that mean they will be on the web, too???

Despite US judges' action they will get out!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:30 AM
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2. YUP.....they WILL be seen here. SOON, very soon.
These people will pay for what they have done. The American people will not accept this. They don't accept torturing adults, and I'm sure the torture of CHILDREN will send them over the edge.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:47 AM
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3. They are here
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:58 AM
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4. Photo 11...a little boy?
:cry: I haven't seen those. Thanks for posting the link.

I hang my head in shame.:(
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:19 AM
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5. Our lives will never be the same
:cry:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:48 AM
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6. CSPAN replayed the hearing late last night. Here's the link
to the video. I had to quit watching, I was so pissed off. I'll try to watch again today.

http://www.c-span.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=Whistleblowers&image1.x=28&image1.y=13
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:54 AM
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7. Pretty dark.
But maybe our country is pretty dark now.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:56 AM
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8. Now they took this from a page in the manual
Spreading Democracy 101... Although I don't remember reading that chapter, they must of had an addendum to it...
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FooFootheSnoo Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:12 AM
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9. there is no honor in this kind of behavior
that makes me sick. All is not fair in war. Using people's kids to make them talk is monstrous. I don't even know what else to say.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:41 AM
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10. To me, there is no greater crime
than those committed against children.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:52 AM
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11. I think MOST Americans will agree with us on that too.
That's why the Pentagon fought the release of these pictures as vigorously as they did. They KNOW this will not sit well with the MAJORITY of US citizens.

I hang my head in shame.:(
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:55 AM
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12. Why the hell are we not flooding the streets over this? All Americans
regardless of their political ideology need to feel outrage over this. (If you lurking trolls feel smug because you think that kind of abuse is somehow keeping you safe way over here, you need to put down the drugs, stop thinking about yourselves, and stand up for humanity!)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:56 AM
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13. Seems like a good email project
into the homes of millions.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 09:59 AM
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14. I think email is too passive at this point. Let's just go door to door &
get people to come with us.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:01 AM
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15. Good idea.
If they are not at home, pin it to their mail box post.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:02 AM
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16. Here, this is one suggestions on what to do
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 10:02 AM by GreenPartyVoter
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:04 AM
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17. thanks
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:57 AM
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18. Any time *wave*
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