Does anyone else see the irony in Cheney's "accident".

[Cleita]

The man without a heart, and who suffers from near fatal heart problems, shoots a man on the Valentine's day weekend, who has a heart attack because some of the pellets grazed his heart. The reason, described as an accident, is evolving into the story of a jealous lover who under the influence of alcohol shot the man who might have been flirting with his girlfriend.

I mean if you were a believer in karma, or what goes around comes around, this seems to be shaping up into a real Greek tragedy, where the gods take revenge on a man who has displeased them and they do it on a particularly auspicious date on our calendar, a holiday celebrating love and using hearts as a symbol to drive the point home. (Sorry for the pun.)

[thecrow]

1. "jealous lover who under the influence of alcohol..."

Please don't circulate stories like this without proof, or a link.
It just contributes to DU being seen as a bunch of conspiracy nuts.

[Cleita]

I have qualified it as evolving into this possible scenario.

It's still okay to speculate about things, isn't it? This how DU has gotten to the truth of matters in the past, by speculating on the possible even while wearing tin foil hats. This story smells all over the place and we know the official story isn't the true one.

Incidentally, this speculation was put forward today on the Al Franken show. Al is hardly known for his wild-eyed accusations.

[Bandit]

5. We can circulate any damn thing we wish because the burdon

is on Cheney at this stage. He needs to explain why he was on a hunting trip with two other women other than his wife on Valentine's day weekend. Since he has not bother to explain his actions we are free to speculate on the evidence..

[BOSSHOG]

7. His disappearance for at least 14 hours after the

shooting is the genesis for "speculation." If he were an honest human being, this would have been settled days ago. But maybe he just had to sober up before letting the world know? I think the speculation should nail his ass to the cross of truth.

[Ladyhawk]

19. I think he was drunk, carrying the gun with the safety off, slipped

and shot Whittington at close range. That seems the most plausible explanation. Has anyone tried to recreate the pattern and force of the pellets at various ranges? 30 yards doesn't seem to make sense, but some scientific evidence couldn't hurt.

[MADem]

6. Hell, there are half a dozen threads on the subject, all with links

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/cheneys-chappaquiddick-i_b_15711.html

Here is a link, if it makes ya happy. The speculation is all over the web that Dickie had a Swiss Miss--and we're not talking about the kind that comes with those cute little marshmallows, either.

As for the drinking, Ms. ARMSTRONG mentioned that "a few beers were involved" and that story is everywhere as well.

Gotta keep up!

[nomo]

9. Cheney's lover?

"Please don't circulate stories like this without proof, or a link."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/was-cheney-hiding-his-lew_b_15705.html

Was Cheney Hiding His Lewinsky?

Sirius radio's Alex Bennett just broke a rumor that the delay in reporting the news that Cheney shot an old man in the heart was due to an effort to hide or spin Cheney's female companion.

Pamela Willeford, ambassador to Switzerland and -- yes -- Liechtenstein, was part of the hunting excursion with Cheney and Whittington. And according to Willeford's account, Cheney and the ambassador were side-by-side when the shooting of Whittington took place.

The vice president's Secret Service detail had to decide what to do with Willeford by way of perhaps covering up her relationship with Cheney, and thus the delay in reporting the news.

The rumor goes that Lynn Cheney isn't happy with Cheney's close relationship with Willeford.

Again, just a rumor.

[thecrow]

16. Again, just a rumor.

[Cleita]

23. There is evidence out there than can lay all rumors to rest.

The SS I'm sure keeps incident reports. The Sheriff has to have a record of some sort. The ambulance crew that travels with Cheney no doubt has paper work about this and the hospital has medical information. Somebody needs to get hold of these papers under the Freedom of Information Act.

Okay, which newspaper is going to step up to the plate and do some investigative journalism. The NYT? The WAPO? Even The Enquirer?

[mattclearing]

11. Seconded. Talk about made-up speculative conjecture.

Get that shit outta here.

[Democrats_win]

2. This really strikes at the heart of the matter.

Puns aside, there really is something to this--Karma, irony or whatever you want to call it. Even Molly Ivins writes about the "irony."

Don´t forget Cheney going after Kerry in 2004 for going duck hunting.

[MADem]

3. "Iron"y, indeed--only the pellets were steel!

But hey, excellent observation!!! And the "your cheating heart" aspect only adds to the drama!

[cliss]

4. Wow, what's next?

I must admit, I never considered the possibility that it came down to a "gentleman's duel". Or in the case of Cheney, a barrel of buck shot aimed directly at W.

Let's look at what we know so far: Whittington supposedly sneaked up behind Cheney without giving notice. Cheney, on the other hand, shoots W. at a distance of about 30 yards. Amazingly, W. gets a face, chest and neck full of buck shot which implies that the man was much closer. The doctor's report said that W. had "anywhere between 5 and 200 pellets". A typical round has about 300 pellets (?) Through a heavy jacket, no less.

Several people have posted that Cheney must have aimed directly at W. and shot, at close range.

Why would he do that?

[MrBenchley]

8. Many levels of irony....

The trigger-happy goon who was the NRA's man of the year in 2004 has a shooting scrape...

The party that tried to remove a popular sitting President over adultery gets caught with its unpopular sitting vice president off on a weekend trip with a woman not his wife.

The party with an already festering scandal over one lobbyist finds itself immersed by its sitting vice president in another scandal at another lobbyist's ranch...

The #2 man in the embattled administration whose desperate plea is "Trust our leadership" shoots one of his campaign contributors in the face and gets caught trying to cover it up....

The guy who's supposed to be responsible for the figurehead president (whose drinking problem caused him to bang his face on the floor with a "pretzel") plugs somebody while out on a toot himself......

[MrBenchley]

22. More irony

Brit Hume, whose son shot himself in the face, is going to try to whitewash Cheney shooting somebody else in the face on Faux Noise.

[Vanje]

10. No.

My irony sense has been broken. It started smoking during the clinton impeachment thing. During Bush v Gore it began to smell like burning rubber. Shortly after 9-11, it burned out entirely.
It stopped smouldering Nov 2004.
Its atrophied,shrivled, cold and wrinkly now.It ought to be buried or cremated in a dignified ceremony, but theres just not enough left with which to identify the body.

[norml]

12. Saint Valentine's Weekend Massacre

Where drunken Dead Eye Dick shot Harry the Lawyer over some Floozy.

LOL!

[NanceGreggs]

13. Not only irony ...

... but this is quickly evolving into the 'perfect storm'.

With the current state of the TV news media, the vast majority of TV news viewers are the 'Brad & Angelina crowd' - you know, the people who tune in just to see who's splitting up, whose sleeping with who, and the occasional missing cheerleader.

That's EXACTLY the audience who are DEMANDING all of the gory details of this story as-is, and if it turns into a sex scandal -- OMG! These nose-in-everybody's-business viewers will be SCREAMING for non-stop coverage of every aspect of it!

The media has created this monster of an audience, and they're going to be faced with the choice of feeding that monster, or backing away from the story as they watch their rating plummet.

There IS a God! This Admin and their media whores are now falling into the traps they unwittingly set for themselves.

[malaise]

17. There you have it

"the perfect storm". I love it:rofl: :rofl: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Cleita]

18. Ambassador Floozy, to us!

:rofl: :popcorn:

[NanceGreggs]

20. And let's hope that all of these bastards ...

... get 'swept away' in it -- but then, they can always rely on FEMA to rescue them!

[enid602]

14. Cheney

How do you know the guys weren't together, and the women weren't just beards? Or maybe they were an item as well.

[NanceGreggs]

15. If he was with a man, or a woman not his wife ...

... goodbye Fundie base, either way!

[merh]

21. Not to mention the way he mocked John Kerry's hunting trip during

during the campaign.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=408754&mesg_id=408805


Karma can be a real bitch. :smoke: