From Democratic Underground to Yahoo News and Alertnet in 18 hrs!!!

[stop the bleeding]

This how the missing beer quote was noticed by DU and found it's way to the AP, DU could be directly responsible for the unraveling of the VP???

Last night on DU a poster by the name of HsiKang was able to provide a screen shot of the missing beer quote from MSNBC's site at 10:20pm on 02/14/06.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=419433&mesg_id=426250 - post #109 was the original screen shot, but had to be mirrored at post# 132 due to traffic

Then Rawstory prints story and gives CREDIT to DU as well sometime between 11:30pm and 1:30am last night possibly because of the 2 emails I sent them between 11:30pm and midnight:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x426783


Then today the story made it to Yahoo News and Alertnet. - Folks this is big!! DU was able not only to be the first ones in spotting the missing info, but it looks like HsiKang was the 1st one to have the proof saved via a screen shot. BTW this was HsiKang's 1st post at DU:applause:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=428567&mesg_id=428567 - see post#1(yahoo), post#46(more yahoo and the Nation), post#49(alertnet) post#50(philly inquire mention another DU'er by name(JohnnyCougar) as the 1st one that spotted the change)



AAR also gave DU credit here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x429006


DU could be directly responsible for the unraveling of the VP???:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:


on edit: had to change title from being found on the AP to being found on Yahoo News and Alertnet, please don't kill me administrators :blush:

[livetohike]

Way to go HsiKang !

Keep posting - keep digging :-) and :toast:

[LaurenG]

1. Oh, would that be justice!?

Go Du and Du'ers.:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[LiberalinNC]

2. Not really surprising to me that someone from the DU provided this info...

The DU People are amazing at proving info, quickly and precisely!

[FreedomAngel82]

3. That's great!!

SOMEONE has to do the work! Way to go HsiKang!

[Saphire]

4. cool!

[Reverend_Smitty]

5. If anything was going to bring them down...

my guess it would be from somebody blogging or investigating stuff on a website like this. The internet is the Woodward and Bernstein of the 21st century. It would be so cool if DU was the unraveling of them

[npincus]

6. and AAR credited DU w/breaking this story!

thread here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=429006&mesg_id=429006

[stop the bleeding]

14. yep I put your thread in the OP - I love the smell of impeachment in the

morning, it smells like VICTORY!

[Richard D]

7. Hearts for HsiKing!

Lots of them.

[helderheid]

11. yes! Gave my last heart to HsiKang

MANY more please!

[sinkingfeeling]

8. Amazing HsiKang! I've been here along time and never done

anything worth while! Congrats!

[malaise]

9. Great scoop Duers

A shout out to newbie HsiKang:grouphug: :grouphug: :yourock:

[CrazyOrangeCat]

10. Rock on, HsiKang !!!

:kick:

[TahitiNut]

13. (lol!) The only DUer with almost as many hearts as posts!

Awesome. :applause:

[ClayZ]

12. Whooo Hoooo DU!

:woohoo:

[Ksec]

15. Excellent sleuthing HsiKang

This site and its members have caught so many of these things...amazing job people. Im proud of you all/

[girl gone mad]

16. MSNBC...

I had frequent communication with them during the 2004 elections. They did this kind of stuff all the time. I believe someone high up in the Republican party has the ear of the MSNBC bosses, who pressure the editors to remove or alter content the GOP is unhappy with.

I hope they will finally have to publicly answer for this behavior.

[Joe Fields]

17. Hats off to HsiKang, and much thanks for being heads-up....

enough not only to save a screen shot, but remember the quote, understand the importance of the quote and bring it to our attention to get this snowball rolling!!!!. Welcome, and keep bringing on.

[blm]

18. Good deal - THIS is what we're here for! CONGRATS to the eagle-eye brigade

.

[methinks2]

19. keep on keeping on

:hippie:

[Bucky]

20. Good work. But "unraveling" seems a bit overdone. I doubt this'll do it.

Even if Cheney had knocked back a couple of beers, who can say this is anything but an honest hunting accident? After Armstrong had a minor stroke from the accident, it even quit being amusing to me.

[autorank]

21. Excellent post. Hats off!!! n/t

[DS1]

22. Where's the AP link?

[stop the bleeding]

26. sorry on looking again it was at the yahoo link and it was The Nation

not the AP, I rushed to put the post together while on lunch break, and I assumed that the yahoo article was from the AP. It will only be a matter of time before this is picked up by the AP. Sorry for the confusion:blush:

[Harper_is_Bush]

39. Ah. Ignore my question below then.

I'll say again though, I doubt MSM will bother with this. It's a non-story since he's admitted to having a beer himself anyway.

[Up2Late]

43. The Nation is damn good too! Very well respected Magazines...

...are nothing to sneeze at.

[Warpy]

23. It might not unravel Cheney, but it certainly put egg on a lot of faces

at MSNBC, as well as giving people a real eyeful of what news censorship by the rulers is all about.

[tridim]

27. Hey Olbermann.. Your bosses are today's "worst people in the world"

Make it so.

[Raffi Ella]

35. YEP!

Liberal Media...right!Can't deny this one msm.


Way to GO to the newbie that found this!Way to Go D.U. in general.


MAN!I love this place!ha!We WILL keep them honest. :toast:



:kick:

[valerief]

24. Tax cuts for Coors!

Oops, talking like a neocon now.

I mean, the "beer" may turn into O'Doul's upon further "investigation."

[JHB]

25. So how long til the freeps spin it as "forged"?

I'll never know, 'cause I don't care what they think...

[zbdent]

28. This is more proof than the guy in his parents' basement

talking about "changing fonts" and being able to falsify military documents . . .

[Surya Gayatri]

29. A big high five and welcome to HsiKang!

Wow, what a debut on DU! SG

:yourock: :woohoo:

[mzmolly]

30. DU-ers so ROCK!

:toast:

[Pacifist Patriot]

31. Excellent work!

[Nothing Without Hope]

32. OUTSTANDING! No wonder Bush thinks "bloggers" are terrorists (LINKS:)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x420629
thread title (2-14-06 GD): Bush Tags Bloggers As Terrorists
Comment/excerpt: “Homeland Security completed its ‘Cyber Storm’ wargame to test how our government ‘would respond to devastating attacks over the Internet from anti-globalization activists, underground hackers and bloggers.’ Given that homeland security ran the ‘wargame,’ one may infer that the nature of the attacks by bloggers must be national security related. And, given that the major national security fear of our government is terrorists, then it looks like bloggers have made our government’s hit list of potential terrorists.”


There is a DU thead on the extremely important BBC article on revealed program of the Pentagon "fighting the internet," but the excerpt given in the OP does not capture the true extent of the issue. The document was written by Pentagon officials in 2003 and Rumsfeld signed it. A pdf file to a copy of the document is linked to on the BBC page with the article. I urge all of you to read this ENTIRE ARTICLE. I'll be posting on it (again) in the next few days.:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 27 January 2006, 18:05 GMT

US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

A newly declassified document gives a fascinating glimpse into the US military's plans for "information operations" - from psychological operations, to attacks on hostile computer networks.
By Adam Brookes
BBC Pentagon correspondent

From influencing public opinion through new media to designing "computer network attack" weapons, the US military is learning to fight an electronic war.

The declassified document is called "Information Operations Roadmap". It was obtained by the National Security Archive at George Washington University using the Freedom of Information Act.

(snip)

US forces should be able to "disrupt or destroy the full spectrum of globally emerging communications systems, sensors, and weapons systems dependent on the electromagnetic spectrum".

(snip)

The US military seeks the capability to knock out every telephone, every networked computer, every radar system on the planet.

(snip)

pdf file for "Information Operations Roadmap" document:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/27_01_06_psyops.pdf

Earlier DU thread on this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2071702
thread title (1-28-06): 1-28-06 US plans to 'fight the net' revealed (Pentagon psyops on Americans!)
This older thread concentrated on the psyops part of the program, which is certainly awful enough, but we need to realize that our lifeline through the Bushie propaganda and to each other is threatened.

This incident with the disappearing beer shows yet again how the US corporate media censor and distort and lie to cement the Bushies' rule. MSNBC has already been shown to be directly involved in deliberately seeking to sway voters:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2447578
thread title (2-8-06 GD-P): MSNBC Producer/Matthews/Scarborough Getting Paid to Influence Voting
Comment/excerpt: “MSNBC senior producer Mike Tirone is speaking on a $279 per listener conference call on Feburary 16. The title of the call is "How to Reach Masses of Conservative Voters with Your Cause, Policy or Political Message." Kind of transparent on its face what that call's about….So now we have senior MSNBC employees training conservative activists in how to use MSNBC to reach conservative voters. Nice. Though, I'm curious how that squares with Federal Election law.”

[loveandlight]

33. the truth will be found at DU ...

Nowhere to hide the truth when DUers are on it! Congrats.

[stop the bleeding]

34. sorry I had to change the title from the AP to Yahoo News and Alertnet

because I failed to see that the yahoo article was not from the AP


Please don't shoot the messenger - no pun intended

[rucky]

36. WTG, ELAD! n/t

[iconoclastNYC]

37. WE ARE THE MEDIA

Feel empowered!!! The times they are a changin!

[Harper_is_Bush]

38. Interesting take on it all. Where is the "AP" reference, btw?

I don't see this as being all that earth-shattering. No MSM bothering with it yet, and he admitted to having a beer at lunch today anyway...so that kinda takes the air outta this.

It's all very interesting, but I think you're blowing it a bit out of proportion to suggest it might "unravel" the VP.

Was the "AP" reference a typo?

[stop the bleeding]

41. yes a typo see post# 34 from 3:00pm EST today - it was Yahoo

you must have come in via the greatest page, because the title will not update even though I did in the OP - thanks for pointing that out though

[Harper_is_Bush]

42. It's in the body also, although I guess it's too late for you now. n/t

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

40. I also heard it on Bernie Ward last night

He spoke about the scrubbing at two points in his show, first mentioning that someone had e-mailed the information to him and then later he mentioned the Rawstory article.

[rumpel]

44. HsiKang deserves a belated Valentine and welcome heart.

[Mr_Spock]

45. Very nice indeed

I'm posting in this thread for posterity :D