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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:40 PM Original message |
Gonzo-ales Withholding Plame Emails That Implicate Cheney |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh wow |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. I don't care if there are tapes from Moses |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. You bet. Hand 'em over. NOW! |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
91. you know this is beginning to remind me of TV |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I know, I am really freaking out, this is surreal. I wasn't politically |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. reminds me of the guy who says |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. K & R |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Me thinks Cheney is serving out his last days in the administration. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. One Can Only Hope |
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Higans (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
87. Thats why Cheney Shot him. |
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Nostradammit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. He's certainly going out with a bang |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. LOL |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
76. It shouldn't stop with Cheney........ |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
94. yes and he is looking fatter and more unhealthy than ever. Is he trying |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. Remember how the right used to complain about Janet Reno? |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. So, why not declassify the emails (that probably don't need to be anyway) |
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FormerRepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obstruction of justice, Gonzo will be disbarred. |
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Punkingal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I'm sure he has some convoluted rationale.... |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
77. They were "keeping their powder dry", remember? |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I Bet No One Knows About This |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. Kick & Recommend! |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. Cheney did not testify under oath ... |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Lying to fed law enforcement is still a crime, regardless if under oath or |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Right. |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. You're right. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. I thought while they were in office they were always under oath?? |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Yes, but the oath doesn't require them to tell the truth. |
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Higans (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
88. He doesn't need to be under oath, remember Martha Stewart? |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. Can't Gonzales be disbarred for this? n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. It depends. |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Thanks. This is getting very interesting. n/t |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
108. H2O Man |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 06:04 AM Response to Reply #108 |
112. It has taken longer |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Thanks again, H2O Man |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. So, our own USAG is guilty of obstruction of justice. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Well don't forget |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Is he the guy who thinks the Geneva Conventions are "quaint," as well? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. That's him. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. I'm sure he will prosecute himself to the full extent of the law |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. It's not obstruction if he claims national security - that issue will |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
80. I'm pretty sure the WH was ORDERED to turn over all communications,... |
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Burried News (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. Obstruction of justice by the not so speedy Gonzales |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Perfect Storm for Cheney, that prick |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. It appears that the bush administration may finally be on its way....... |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
78. They might have been........ |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. So is it still lying if it's not under oath? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Sure. |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I was hoping you'd say that! |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. Even though Cheney was not under oath.. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Ordinarily, lying to fed investigators is a crime even if not under oath, |
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Justice Is Comin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
79. Definitely |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. kick n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. Good find! |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. Good afternoon, H2O Man |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Thank you, Emit |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. hey you two - this is a damning statement - also a few questions |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. My answer is this: |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. So that is a yes on Fitz being able to get the Gonzo emails or is that |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I'm curious |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I think so as well, and I think Leopold's sources feel this as well |
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dalloway (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. it's a great time to throw cheney an ANVIL |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. Armitage? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Would not |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Must Come Clean |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Well, |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. right, |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. This is also significant re: Cheney's obstruction of justice |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. that is precisely what I read when I saw those statements that you |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Can you hear, "For the good of the Grand Old Party"? |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. What's everyone so worried about? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Who cares about doing the RIGHT thing? Not them, surely. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
90. Keyrect |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 06:09 AM Response to Reply #90 |
113. I believe he has. |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
22. Classified Intelligence Information? Um, the judges in this case have |
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FormerRepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. In addition, no reason at all why redacted versions can't be provided. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
23. Gonzalez is a political hack--he shouldn't be attorney general |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. Gonzales's wife, Martha Mitchell |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
30. Looks like someone is throwing Cheney under the bus. And Gonzo too. n/t |
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kayice (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Isn't Chertoff missing a whole day of crucial video tape? |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
34. Fuddgate, Plamegate, Halliburtongate, Energygate, etc. It keeps getting |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
84. Yeah, but when the hell is it going to stop? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
42. Obstruction of Justice. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
116. Bush has 'OJ'ed' the country, you've nailed it. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
44. This is a done deal now. Let's fucking get it done already!!!!!!!!! |
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Patrick J Fitzgerald (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. Whittington Shooting Schmooting... |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #47 |
111. Well, that sounds like conspiracy to obstruct justice. |
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against all enemies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
48. Isn't Gonzales Fitzgerald's boss? Shouldn't Gonzales resign |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. They may already have been indicted? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
105. Gonzales had to recuse himself from the case when he became AG due to |
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Blutodog (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
52. Laws? |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
59. Gonzeles can't withold anything to a prosecutor |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. It seems like a losing, last-ditch defense to me. |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
106. looks like he is winding down doesn't it |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
61. Since Fitzgerald has been on this case over two years and |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
70. So, tell me, how does Fitz know about the emails if he doesn't have |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. From the article: |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
71. What can Fitz do? |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. He Is A Man Who Bides His Time |
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Beth in VT (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
74. What I find ironic is that Fitzgerald has a spokesman. |
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FormerRepublican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Says "no comment" an AWFUL LOT!!! 10 Billion times a day? |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
81. Gonzalez is one twit |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
89. This guy is in law enforcement now - he MUST BE NEUTRAL!! |
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cami715 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Gonzales made it very clear during the hearings this week |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I had no idea how seedy this little weasel was until the NSA hearings |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
92. Just for fun, let's count the number of Cheney lies in this article. |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Dickhead appears a sympathetic, sick figure sometimes but he's a huge liar |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. Good Recap |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 11:42 AM Response to Reply #92 |
115. Thanks RP - I see that Darth can be indicted for multiple charges |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
95. Olbermann is doing in-depth analysis of birdshot at 30 yds. Catch it if |
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WestMichRad (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
96. An attorney general who obstructs justice |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
100. Pretty simple solution: |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
102. Fitz Probably Has Some Of The Emails Gonzo is Withholding |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. You know, you are probably right. |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
107. I Tell Ya. |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
109. How do these shitheads get away with 'testifying' without being sworn in?? |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-15-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. it sets them up for obstruction of justice rather than perjury... |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-16-06 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
114. I remember when AGs were for the LAW not the CRIMINALS nm |
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