Cheney can declassify??? Does that statement indicate that he has

[mediaman007]

committed perjury? He indicated to Fitzgerald that he knew nothing about the outing of Plame.

[papau]

1. The Prez and those authorized by the Prez or by statue can declassify

Cheney needs Bush to say that he had authorized him to declassify items.

[Kansas Wyatt]

7. Too late for Bush to say that, since...

Bush first claimed that he would fire anyone who did leak the Plame's status, and then went on to claim how his administration would do the proper thing before Fitz took over.

Nope, it's too late for BushCo. to go back in the way back machine and change their bold political posturing, before they couldn't keep it all contained anymore.

[MadMaddie]

2. They are starting to stumble over their own lies.....

They can't keep up with their growing lies, and the lies are snowballing out of control.

Impeachment it can't happen soon enough!!

[Arkansas Granny]

4. There's an old saying that says something like you only have to

remember the truth once. If you tell a lie, you have to tell another to cover it and then another to cover the second lie and so on. It's bound to happen eventually, that their lies get tangled up.

[MadMaddie]

6. So true Arkansas Granny..so true...

:hi:

[Arkansas Granny]

8. Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[MadMaddie]

9. Thanks for the welcome Arkansas Granny!!

:bounce:

[rfranklin]

3. He was not under oath...when the Republicans trapped Bill...

Clinton, they learned that they should avoid testifying under oath under any circumstances because they know they are lying. That's why the oil comapny execs were not required to testify under oath. Gonzalez was not required to testify under oath. And "Go Fuck Yourself" Cheney and Junior were not under oath when they lied to the 9/11 Commission. That's the problem.

[Caution]

5. While not perjury, this is CLEAR Obstruction of Justice

from:
http://www.nationalsecuritycrimes.com/obstruction-of-justice.htm

Obstruction of Proceedings Before Departments, Agencies, and Committees (18 U.S.C. § 1505)
The distinguishing factor between §1505, §1509, and §1510 is that while §1509 involves a court order by way of an ongoing criminal proceeding and §1510 deals with an ongoing criminal investigation, § 1505 arises out of non-judicial, Congressional, or civil proceedings. Vague wording in the statute, however, leave it open to wide interpretation and application in judicial proceedings as well. In order for one to be convicted of this statute, the government prosecutor, Assistant United States Attorney (AUSA), must prove beyond a reasonable doubt:

1. That the defendant withheld, misrepresented, or otherwise obstructed an ongoing investigation or proceeding before any department or agency of the United States;
2. That the defendant acted with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct the proceeding.

So how have the courts interpreted this statute?

A. An FBI investigation is not, however, sufficient for qualification as a “proceeding,” as required by the statute. Proceedings refer only to those instances which relate to the scope of rule-making or the adjudicative power vested within an agency by law. Because the FBI lacks such authority in investigations, obstructions of an FBI investigation do not fall under the scope of this statute. Higgins v. United States, 511 F. Supp. 453 (1981).
B. Both an Article 32 hearing under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (U.C.M.J.) and a court-martial qualify as “proceedings” under the statute. United States v. Daminger, 30 C.M.R. 826 (1960).

Potential Punishment:
Anyone convicted under this statute may be fined and imprisoned for up to 5 years. Pursuant to the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act, if the offense is related to international or domestic terrorism, than one may be imprisoned up to 8 years.

[mediaman007]

11. Hasn't Cheney spent a little time with "The Fitz?"

[ktlyon]

14. the pres. and vp took oaths when they where sworn in

to up hold the laws, constitution and foreign agreements
Didn't they violate that?

[spuddonna]

10. Next up on the F Network! Cheney declares himself SunGod!

"You must all bow down and worship me!! And hey, Leahy, you're next!"

This is insane!! As bernie_mccoy put it so well:"Dead-eye Dick, AFTER DRINKING, RECKLESSLY GUNNED DOWN A 78-YEAR-OLD MAN, WHO "WAS" HIS FRIEND, WITH A 28 GAUGE SHOTGUN FINALLY FORCED TO SPEAK, ADMITTED TO DRINKING AND HUNTING AND BASICALLY CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE."

Now, Dead-eye Dick is declaring that HE can declassify information?! wtf??!!! Since when?! Since when can he take top-secret information and pass it around to reporters like he's in high school passing notes to his buddies?!

My head is going to explode... This is not good for my blood-pressure...
need this: :beer: before I :nuke: ...

[ktlyon]

15. heart patients should not be drinking

also he is old and has a heart condition he would not be allowed to take viagra.

[spuddonna]

16. I'll bet Dick gets any meds he wants though...

... especially after this! lol :)

Cheney:"Gimme some Viagra, doc..."
Doc:"Uh... that's really not a good ide-"
Cheney:"You don't need me to go Bessy my .28, do you?"
Doc:"Let me get my prescription pad..."

[debbierlus]

12. But, he didn't declassify this information

He leaked classified information.

The VP can pull the cover of a undercover agent at his whim? Just decide that her position no longer qualifies as a covert position - not tell her. I am no legal expert, but that sounds like TREASON.

Cheney is SCREWED.

[Sydnie]

13. In any event, it is still a law that no one can out a CIA agent without

being charged with a felony. Treason works for me.