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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:27 PM
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Our government has gone from revolting to downright creepy.
Corruption grows rampant and extensive enough that finally you stop and think - what wouldn't these people do? The answer, unfortunately, is nothing. Whatever horrible, disgusting, revolting, rotten thing that can be done by humans, they're willing to do it. Especially when $$$ is involved. We've long passed plain old descriptions for bad government, and now we're in the "creepy" zone.

Does anyone else think the next shoe will drop soon, and we'll be forced to ask again - what wouldn't these people do?

Hopefully, it won't be after the Bush boys start rounding up political opponents for internment...
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:38 PM
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1. We need to seriously begin a Resistance Movement using the Resistance to
the Nazis and guide. A Nun's Story and The Corsican Woman have sections on the Resistance but except in part of books I've read have never read in depth about the Nazi Resistance. If any DUers know of good resources, please start publishing them and maybe a thread or front page story on what we need to do to get serious about Resisting this horror.

"Are the concentration camps being built now?

http://vivirlatino.com/2006/02/0.../02/0...-other- name.php

Yeah, they are building 'em, but that's the good news. Here's the bad news:

Lindsay at majikthise has synthesized this from the Guantanamo Combatant Status Review reports:

"CSRT documents summarize the evidence that the Government used to determine that a prisoner was an enemy combatant. The study confirms that the threshold for EC status is incredibly low:

55% did not commit any hostile act against the United States or its coalition allies Only 8% of the detainees were characterized as al Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining detainees, 40% have no definitive connection with al Qaeda at all and 18% are have no definitive affiliation with either al Qaeda or the Taliban.

Many of the detainees are being held simply because they were associated with terrorist organizations, not because they committing any hostile acts

Some are being detained for being associated with groups that aren't even on the DHS watchlist of terrorist organizations"Association" covers a wide range of alleged involvements: “fighters for" (8%), “members of" (30%), by far the most common designation was "associated with" which could mean as little as having spoken to a member of Al Qaeda (60%), Two percent of the detainees who were designated EC for a nexus of involvement with a terrorist organization didn't even make the "associated with" standard.**

By and large, the Gitmo detainees aren't even alleged to have been high-level Taliban leaders or al Qaeda operatives. Far from being uniformly the worst of the worst, most of the detainees at Gitmo haven't even been shown to be enemies, let alone combatants."
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http://vivirlatino.com =Detention centers by any other name And a familiar name to those sensitive to topics such as "reconstruction" in Iraq and botched hurricane relief, among other things. I mean if you are going to be detained in a modern-day Angel Island, it might as well be a name you know and distrust: Halliburton The guys who brought us "Camp Delta" at Guantanamo.

The Army Corps of Engineers has awarded a contract worth up to $385 million for building temporary immigration detention centers to Kellogg Brown & Root, the Halliburton subsidiary that has been criticized for overcharging the Pentagon for its work in Iraq.The Army Core of Engineers claim that the centers will be used to house people in instances of "massive immigration" only:

"When there's a large influx of people into the United States, how are we going to feed, house and protect them?" Mr. Church asked. "That's why these kinds of contracts are there."

Yeah. There's already that large influx -- and "protected" from what?

Is this an indication of more severe anti-immigrant measures on the part of the federal government? I'm not the only one who's asking that question: "It's pretty obvious that the intent of the government is to detain more and more people and to expedite their removal," said Cheryl Little, executive director of the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center in Miami.

"Emergency relief" or a stateside "Guantanamo Express"?

Via / The New York Times and BoingBoing
Related: Minnesota governor goes after immigrants (Friday, Feb 03 2006)
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:39 PM
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2. Thank you to the generous person who gave me a heart.
:grouphug:
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:41 PM
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3. I agree
Bushco is literally out of touch and one way that happens is too much power. Creepy is a good word but imo "scary" should also be added.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:42 PM
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4. It's bad,...real bad.
;(
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:44 PM
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5. they slaugtered 3000 people in the WTC
then they can do it again. I'm not talking about OBL
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