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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 08:18 PM
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An article I think everyone should read...
There ARE reasons why we must keep the pressure on folks.

Peace
:)

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/

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Friday, February 17, 2006
The Long Hard Slog

There are lots of people who appear to be morbidly depressed -- to the point of conceding defeat -- as a result of yesterday’s unilateral obstruction by the incomparable White House shill Sen. Pat Roberts of the long-planned and long-promised investigation into the operational aspects of the NSA program by the Senate Intelligence Committee. That defeatist reaction and the borderline-self-pitying sentiments which accompany it are, for literally countless reasons, completely unwarranted.

First, nobody ever thought that a just resolution of this scandal was dependent upon an investigation by the Senate Intelligence Committee, dominated, as it is, by the mewling, slavish and indescribably dishonest Pat Roberts. The notion that this scandal has come to an end all because Roberts blocked, for the moment, hearings that were to be held by that Committee is nonsensical. Thankfully, this scandal never depended upon the integrity of Pat Roberts, and hearings in front of that Committee were merely one of the many ways to compel a real investigation, but it was hardly the only or even primary way.

Moreover, the Committee did not vote against an investigation. Instead, Roberts merely invoked a procedural device as Chairman to prevent a vote, for now, from taking place. (Incidentally, what happened to the Republican mantra that procedural maneuvers ought not be used to block up-or-down votes? It seems that principle only applies to matters where they know they will prevail on the vote. Here, there were clearly Republican members of the Committee who did not want to go on record – and who may have been unwilling to go on record – voting to oppose an investigation. As a result, no vote was held).

And, one must remember that there are numerous other branches of this scandal which are alive, well, and growing. The investigation of the Senate Judiciary Committee continues, with disputes raging between the Republican Chairman and the Attorney General over the scope of further witnesses testimony and the DoJ’s obligation to disclose documents. The House Intelligence Committee voted yesterday to launch its own investigation and hold its own hearings, and Republicans on that Committee are already feuding with one another over the proper scope of that investigation. And, as I posted about yesterday, the judiciary is now involved in this scandal and is beginning to assert its institutional role in our democracy.

>>>>More at http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 08:42 PM
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1. Thank you. We still have lots of avenues of redress.
I'm still hopeful.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 08:51 PM
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2. Glenn....he is becoming the new "voice" of the left
the voice of reason, of common sense. I bookmarked his blog and go every day to see what he has up. I was feeling depressed until I read his post. Further down in the post, he talks about the comparison to the Watergate scandal, and time involved in finally exposing that crime. It's just that everything this admin does is SO outrageous, SO blatant and yet SO secretive, that we want redress NOW. Patience is a virture, and I sure hope patience pays off for us.

I troll the RW blogs frequently, and even they are paying attention to Glenn Greenwald. They get very excited about his posts and criticize, criticize, criticize, meaning that he is hitting repuke nerves.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:14 PM
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3. very good article-I just hope it does not take us 2 years
then he would be leaving and my hunger for justice will not be satisfied.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:26 PM
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4. Everytime Clinton even farted the repubs screamed bloody murder,
the MSM reported it the next day on the front page, and Clinton was tried in public on the third day. Now we have these same repubs that I am still waiting for them to have an investigation into the election of 2000 and just about everything that happened. It's hard to wonder if these people will ever be brought to justice.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:35 AM
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5. Greenwald gives us some excellent historical perspective
from previous scandals.

Highly recommended -- also the previous entries in Greenwald's blog on NSA. Thanks for posting this.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:44 AM
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6. kick
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:42 AM
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7. Thanks for the uplifting post!
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:18 AM
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8. Great article.
Really puts things in perspective. I know I somtimes get really depressed as scandal after scandal, crime after crime, fails to bring down this corrupt administration, but I know that we have to be in this for the long haul and not expect any eay, quick resolutions. This administration's only hope of staying in power (and i'm really starting to fear that they intend to extend their power long after Bush himself is out of office) is that we get tired and give up. This is a battle we're going to have to stay in.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:41 AM
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12. Exactly
And don't forget we do have Fitzgerald still working on the Wilson case. And also remember Mr. Wilson said that if nothing came from this they were going to take them to court over leaking her name. Could they do that with Bush?
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:11 PM
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9. Please post the permalink for this
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:32 AM
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10. Thank you for finding this!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:35 AM
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11. There are so many, many scandals going on
that they may be able to suppress an investigation into one, for awhile, but they cannot supporess investigation into everything going on. I know, sometimes it seems that they can, but the Abramhoff scandal is getting bigger, the Plame investigation is chugging along, and, with so many people involved in one or more of the scandals, I think more and more people are going to sing, when they realize it's gonna be their asses in a sling if they won't open their mouths and talk, for a change to take some of the heat off themselfs.
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