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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:07 AM
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Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 01:23 AM by Montagnard
Due to younger days experiences compliments of our government I read until the wee hours of the night.. Tonight I read this: Americans feel that their culture is superior to that of the Europeans.

I have traveled a bit throughout Europe and I didn’t find our culture to be anywhere close to that of Europe. From Spain to Italy, from Ireland to Germany I found their way of life to be, if not superior, at least as satisfying.

The art in Italy is better, the life style in Ireland is better, the work life in Spain is better…on and on it is either as good or better.

We hold this country, the USA, in much too high regard. We are not the chosen people. Regardless of what the ministers and politicians want to tell us. Other countries have much to offer and sometimes it is superior to the quality of life we live.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:11 AM
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1. Yes, they are kinder and more responsive to their citizens needs
Under W, the buck rules every decision. Corporatism is worshiped. The working class and the low income have been cast out of the economic picture.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:15 AM
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2. Yeah, but we got Montel here in the U.S. Do the Europeans have a
Montel?

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Agree with you. We're still a baby nation. Europeans have lunch on thousand-year-old ruins. Their art and literature dwarfs ours.

Yeats. Mozart. Michelangelo. I don't think any of them was from Ft. Worth.

Good post, Montagnard.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:21 AM
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3. Americans are not superior, and you are not the first person
who has touched this topic. We are pretty far down there now, in no small fault to this admin, but the thread I remember had to do with manners and perception. There are memorable Americans who try to reinforce the good of America, but then there are people, sorta like dimson and Cheney, who just shoot it all to HELL.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:35 AM
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4. couldnt agree with you more
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 01:36 AM by az chela
I am thinking seriously of moving away from here if we have 3 more years of bushco.They are destroying the USA and everyone who isnt with them, and I am against them!!!!
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:44 AM
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5. Tiocfaidh Ar La
Hang in.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:45 AM
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6. many years ago, gourmet magazine ran an article about a man in london
who decided that he was only going to do business with firms that had been in existence for at least 200 years. the very entertaining article showed that he succeeded in this very well.

there are so many people who seem to think that america is the sine qua non of all existence, despite much evidence to the contrary. very sad, limited beings.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:50 AM
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7. humans are highly over-rated ...
I love my dog as much as I love you
But you may fade, my dog will always come through.

All he asks from me is the food to give him strength
All he ever needs is love and that he knows he'll get

So, I love my dog as much as I love you
But you may fade, my dog will always come through.

All the pay I need comes shining through his eyes
I don't need no cold water to make me realize that

I love my dog as much as I love you
But you may fade, my dog will always come through.

Na, na, na, na, na, na, nana...

I love my dog as much as I love you
But you may fade, my dog will always come through.

Na, na, na, na, na, na, nana...

I love my dog, Baby, I love my dog. Na, na, na...
I love my dog, Baby, I love my dog. Na, na, na...
Cat Stevens
(curiously denied entry to the country by the present misadministration, keeping us safe from 2-legged terra-ists everywhere, yeah)

woof, or warp as you may see fit.
dp
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:56 AM
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8. Dogs are worse than plants, and
they all die eventually, as do we. :P
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:17 AM
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12. ever see a plant pee on a dog?
didn't think so.

many plants come back seasonally, and there's a little bit of 'dog' in there, due to that.
Mama N. has her plan, we are lucky, as human, if we understand an iota of the grand scheme.

death too, highly over-rated, in the cosmic scheme. I suppose it's all in the programming.
dp
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:50 AM
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13. No, I've never seen a plant pee on a dog. I will consider that
from now on anytime I consider any dang thing!
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:22 AM
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14. lol

no you won't, as well you shouldn't. That shit will age you before your time...

better left to wonder.
dp
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:57 AM
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9. That's becaue we're spoon fed 'Murka's the greatest'...
from childhood. It's indoctrinated in us to such a degree that many don't even think twice when they say this is the greatest country on the planet. We're so special and unique. It doesn't matter that we do a piss poor job in caring for each other, or that racism is still rampant, that we have one of the highest murder rates in the world and many other problems here that other countries don't seem to have.

Greed and fear rules this country. That's why you see such a profound difference, IMO.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:59 AM
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10. USA! We're number one!!!!!!!!!1111111
You have to realize that a lot of Americans boil everything down to a high school football game mentality.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:01 AM
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11. Hubby and I were discussing this same thing last night
He's a Brit, and like me he believes Americans get their arrogance by virtue of their ignorance about the rest of the world. They have no idea what they're comparing themselves to; they haven't traveled outside their own state in most cases, let alone abroad. Our news is self-centered. And many Americans just aren't curious enough to educate themselves beyond their assumptions.

To be fair, I was like that once too...before I lived in the UK and in Europe. The average Joe in the EU knows ten times more about the world than the average American. They HAVE to. We should have to as well, but that would mean acknowledging we aren't superior.

The same goes for Canadians, in general they have that laid back world-view humility we Americans are sorely lacking.
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DetroitProle Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:51 AM
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15. most indicitively...
the response I often get from such talk is, "YEAH, WELL WE COULD NUKE THEIR ASSES AND TAKE THEM OVER IN DAYS." Wooooah there's cultural superiority for you.
In the U.S., might makes right.
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