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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:50 AM
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Please tell me why every other thread is not about the sale of the ports?
Please tell me why every so called journalist is not discussing this? Please tell me why and how this administration has almost succeeded in pullimg off another coup? Please tell me the connections between the purchasers and the cabal?..Please tell me how long they have been working on this?...Why is this not on the front page of every news paper? Please tell me how this story is less important than Cheney almost killing his friend?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:05 PM
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1. Can't.
I have the same questions.
I can tell you that on 1/17 the WH announced David Sanborn, former dir of ops for DP World would be appointed to US Maritime Admin, then less than a month later the US signed his former company to secure our ports.
That would be a connection.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:06 PM
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2. We've had a couple of threads on this over the past few days
I can't speak to the silence of journalists.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:07 PM
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4. that is my question - I've been avoiding the TV - is it being reported?
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:26 PM
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13. CNN actually had some coverage of it yesterday.
Blitz was actually mildly po'd about it (unbelieveable, huh?) & Cafferty was livid. Cafferty read some of the emails he received & said that overwhelmingly, people are outraged by this regardless of if they are repub or dem.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:28 PM
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16. Lou Dobbs was incensed, as was his panel.
It is getting coverage.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:50 AM
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79. Lou is good on this stuff!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 06:58 AM
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86. Me too.
Before Gore was removed from office, I watched way to much. After 9-11. I found my-self waning from T.V. and went on line. I can hardly feel that what is being reported has not been scrubbed and perfected to achieve the agenda. No more facts, just "their" message.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:06 PM
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3. This is THE story that every American can agree is a BAD IDEA.
K & R
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:13 PM
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6. agreed..and proves there is nothing in their true agenda about protecting
us..our ports...its nuts...i cant stop thinking about it...and believe that on this issue, if Americans knew, because everyone I mention it to who is not driving themselves crazy reading du, rawstory, truth out, huffington, etc...have no clue..because its been buried....and this is very very important...and so transparent...please somebody connect the dots with the power players here...
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:19 PM
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8. Absolutely amazing!
It's like a nightmare that will never end. :(
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:20 PM
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9. I mentioned it to my husband who doesn't come near DU
and his eyes got pretty big.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:47 PM
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40. Same here.
I tried to tell my husband about it Thursday night, and he just looked at me with that "there she goes again" look. So, yesterday I e-mailed the article to him at his work e-mail. Last night he told me he showed it to the office secretary. He said it was the most frightening thing he'd ever heard of.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:07 PM
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5. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS!!!
Bushler is GIVING CONRTOL OF OUR PORTS TO TERRORISTS!!! :mad:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:42 PM
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23. Why does he hate America??????? n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:44 PM
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24. now THERE is a bumper sticker. Why does Bush hate America?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:06 PM
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35. He loves our money but that is standard for the BFEE. Have they ever
earned an honest dollar in their lives, any of them?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:39 PM
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39. I'd say he doesn't exactly hate our country, he just doesn't give a damn
and the US and its people are not on his list of priorities. In fact, he loves to push people around and feel powerful. He's an empty, greedy little criminal bully with no lower limit, as he keeps proving.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:18 PM
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7. Also
that on the day Hamas takes control of the Palestinian parlament, just days after we anounced we would cut aid to Palestine, that the UAE starts talks with the Palestinians in regard to possible contract with DP World.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=da...
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:24 PM
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11. cant bring up the link...can you post a few paragraphs?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:29 PM
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17. Sure.
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 12:33 PM by globalvillage
UAE, Palestine to set up a joint investment firm
BY AHMED A. ELEWA (Deputy Business Editor)

18 February 2006

DUBAI — The UAE and Palestine have agreed to the establishment of a new joint investment company, to be announced within a few weeks, according to Mazen Sinokrot, the Palestinian Minister of Economy, who has recently visited the UAE.

<snip>
"We have already started with the first step towards establishing this company by talking to a large number of investors, that are expected to be the seed for the new entity, including Palestinian as well as Emirati investors, and we expect that this company will see the light within the coming few weeks," he added.

<snip>

"We seek to benefit from the UAE's expertise in the field of building and developing marine ports, to develop the Gaza port, not only that, we are also in critical need of management expertise," he added while referring to the successes of Dubai Ports World, paving the way for yet a new venture for the world's number three ports operator.

edit link

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/business/2006/February/business_February391.xml§ion=business

edit can't make link work
google
palestine dubai port

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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:22 PM
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10. What!!
I can't even find details anywhere, please post more about it, thanks.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:24 PM
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12.  CNN and WAPO articles on it
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 12:26 PM by helderheid
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:26 PM
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14. defies logic..no matter how many times i read it..nt
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:27 PM
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15. it's INSANE. Apparently the Freepers agree.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:49 PM
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42. They need to "Harriet Meiers" this one!
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:49 AM
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78. This is how I look at it: If you believe the official story of 9/11, then
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 03:50 AM by file83
this new story about the ports getting sold defies all logic. It does NOT make sense.

But if you believe that there was Government involvement in 9/11, this port sale makes PERFECT sense. I'm a Government MIHOP (Made It Happen On Purpose) theory man myself, so this really doesn't shock me that much at all. I'm not the only one by a long shot, either.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:09 PM
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50. Check out the grammar in CNN's headline, lol.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:03 PM
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74. thanks n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:33 PM
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18. I'm going to guess it's the same reason so-called journalists...
didn't discuss the problems with the election, Gannon, lack of an exit strategy, etc. The crime syndicate has them effectively gagged.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:34 PM
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19. I wonder what those journalists who know the truth feel like not being
able to speak?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:36 PM
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20. I know one small-time local journalist who left the business.
He was so tired of having his work axed by editors and above that he just quit. He tried to have a very balanced article about voter confidence in the 2004 election run and it was killed faster than you can blink.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:41 PM
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22. so much for a free press.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:44 PM
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25. You'll love the reason they gave him for not running it.
"Our readers wouldn't care about this."
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:45 PM
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27. OH MY GOD
:wow: Yea, why should they - it's only our democracy we're talking about :eyes: :puke:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:36 PM
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21. self-delete (duplicate post)
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 12:42 PM by Pacifist Patriot
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:58 PM
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30. See... Now if you ask G. Gordon Liddy....
He would tell you that the jealous journalists (David Gregory in particular) are pissed off that a small Corpus Cristi paper got the Cheney scoop the reason behind the "Hype" of the Cheney hunting weekend. I heard him go off about it on Al Franken the other day.

Regardless... the sale of MAJOR US PORTS should be the headline on every paper, and topic on every media talk show. (I wonder if the Sunday Talk shows will even touch on it?) They can't blame the Liberal Media on this one.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:45 PM
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26.  wapo:..looks like the 6.8 bil sale could be approved as early as Monda
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:46 PM
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28. Here are the threads that I have seen- and this SHOULD be much bigger here
This should be getting much more attention and generating more excitement.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2454971
thread title (2-12-06 GD-P): 911 Bankers to Run SIX Major U.S. Ports—Dubai(UAE). IMPEACH NOW!!!
Comment/excerpt: “Six ports will be run and protected by a Dubai based port management company (DP World): New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia. The deal was approved by a “U.S. government panel coordinated out of the White House. Just prior to the deal, David C. Sanborn of Virginia was appointed as administrator of the Maritime Administration of the Transportation Department. Sanborn worked as DP World's director of operations for Europe and Latin America.…. A company in the United Arab Emirates is poised to take over significant operations at six American ports as part of a corporate sale, leaving a country with ties to the Sept. 11 hijackers with influence over a maritime industry considered vulnerable to terrorism.“

Even the freepers are upset about this outrage:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446111
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Freepers JUST AS MAD About the Port Control Issue... Common Ground?
Comment/excerpt: Free Republic posts expressing concern/outrage over Dubai operating 6 major US ports.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446003
thread title (2-16-06 GD): OK!!! I think the Pres. just cut his own throat!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2113537
thread title (2-16-06 LBN): White House Defends Port Operations Sale
Comment/excerpt: Yahoo News/AP. “The Bush administration on Thursday rebuffed criticism about potential security risks of a $6.8 billion sale that gives a company in the United Arab Emirates control over significant operations at six major American ports. Lawmakers asked the White House to reconsider the deal. The sale to state-owned Dubai Ports World was ‘rigorously reviewed’ by a U.S. committee that considers security threats when foreign companies seek to buy or invest in American industry, National Security Council spokesman Frederick Jones said….”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x453502
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Freeper and neocon websites unable to put a spin on the UAE port takeover
Comment/excerpt: COMPILATION post with many links and good explanation, for example of the role played by GOLD in the money trail to al Qaeda. Also that the United Arab Emirates were one of the TRHEE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT RECOGNIZED THE TALIBAN AS THE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN. Muh more on the obvious security disaster this deal would be and why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x452192
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Excellent! "Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal"
Comment/excerpt: Reuters: “Two U.S. Democratic senators said on Friday they would introduce legislation aimed at blocking Dubai Ports World from buying a company that operates several U.S. shipping ports because of security concerns. Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Hillary Clinton of New York said they would offer a measure to ban companies owned or controlled by foreign governments from acquiring U.S. port operations.” Hillary is calculating that the GOPs and Dems will like this position and it will boost her presidential chances, but I wouldn’t care WHO was calling for sanity in this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2115471
thread title (2-17-06 LBN): US Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal
Comment/excerpt: Cites same Reuters article as the preceding thread in GD.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:49 PM
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29. thanks for this - you know I am surprised that PDA, MoveOn, TrueMajority,
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 12:49 PM by helderheid
DFA, etc., aren't all over this.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:58 PM
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31. thanks for posting these..WE SHOULD BE SCREAMING ABOUT THIS...
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:05 PM
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32. in one of the posts on the thread compilation: Carlyle Group..wtf..
911..meeting with papa bush and saudis (carlyle group)..remember?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:12 PM
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33. speaking of...
watch this:

http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/afleveringen/11838857/
On the right side of the page under "Video" are 2 links:

Bekijk de uitzending DE IJZEREN DRIEHOEK in realvideo (BREEDBAND tot 500 kbs) (Broadband)
Bekijk de uitzending DE IJZEREN DRIEHOEK in realvideo (SMALBAND, tot 100 kbs) (Dial up)
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:07 PM
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36. UNBELIEVABLE...thank you so much for this link..its long but
its very good and provides the link...proves the link..and of course its a German production...i recommend everyone watch this...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:55 PM
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44. It's actually Dutch - they do the best investigative reporting I've ever
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:10 PM
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37. Is there any way that this can be shown on US tv...Democracy NOW
or PBS..and I mean immediately..
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:55 PM
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45. I wish!! I can imagine Link TV would air it but I would be shocked to see
it even on PBS.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:13 PM
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51. I started a seperate thread on this
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:15 PM
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38. Think of the ports as....
money-laundering conduits for the Shadow Government. Junior may not talk about the New World Order like Poppy did, but he has mentioned the Shadow Government.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:54 PM
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43. Just like all of those casino boats
along the Florida coast. Now that Abramoff is toast they gotta do somethin'.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:01 PM
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48. Interesting point....
Also consider one lesson from the Iran-Contra scandal, illegal trade doesn't have to be done with currency, it can be done using drugs and arms.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:03 PM
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34. The Bush* administration has a poor track record when it comes
to choosing people/companies to run any kind of operations. How can any of us trust the White House on this one? How can we not be alarmed?

They are so damn secretive we will never know what kind of deal was struck.

I just don't get it, what is wrong with using American people who have a strong vested interest to run our most vulnerable operations?

This has made me so sick at heart, but then, Bush's* actions do that to me often.

This could be finalized by this Monday? On President's Day? Is there any way anyone in this country can stop it? Like I said, Bush* chooses poorly when it comes to choosing people/companies to run any kind of operations.

Did he just sell us down the river?


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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:48 PM
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41. Where are the Democratic Leaders!?! The OP is absolutely right
:wow: this is The Big Story and they are letting it just slip right by. If they were really interested in winning they would be screaming about this everywhere, all day long, but what we get is nothing at all. Are they so stupid that they don't recognize that this is an issue that will resonate with damn near every citizen? I don't think so, so why? :wtf:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:55 PM
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46. One guess would be that they ARE screaming about it, but no M$M coverage.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:00 PM
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47. Sorry but I have seen no less that 4 of "our leaders" on various shows
and many more being quoted in news articles and not one mention of this. They get the microphone, they just refuse to use it.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:03 PM
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49. I'm just going by this Reuters article that the M$M is ignoring.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:56 PM
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52. It just makes me sick to think of how hard this is going to hit so many
of us here. The freepers and the sheeple will get what they deserved (or at least what they've been asking for), but those of us that have been trying to get the word out and have been silenced, it just makes me so sad.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:57 PM
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53. It just makes me sick to think of how hard this is going to hit so many
of us here. The freepers and the sheeple will get what they deserve (or at least what they've been asking for), but those of us that have been trying to get the word out and have been silenced, it just makes me so sad.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:58 PM
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55. Or they're supporting it. Ever ask why?
Maybe I will because I'm curious. (there's no point to be furious.)
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:55 PM
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57. Introducing a bill to prevent foreign ownership of US ports?
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:07 PM
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60. what is a bill gonna do if they are planning approval on Monday?
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:52 PM
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64. Well, if it becomes US law...
...that foreign entities aren't allowed to control US ports, then feasibly control of those ports could be seized from the foreign companies who control them. Or if we wanted to be nice about it, purchased back from them.

But the point is that Democrats are trying to do something about it. The question was "where are the democratic leaders?" which implies that they are oblivious and/or complicit, when obviously they are not. They are upset and trying to do something about it.

Interestingly, even the freepers agree with us on this (see post #28 above). They are just as outraged as us. Here's a thread that from yesterday that copied some posts from FR, congress.org and some other sites:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x450631

It's possible that this deal will be the final straw of the Bush administration. Yes, I'm being optimistic about that, but even the hardcore Bush-is-above-the-law crowd are frothing over this thing. They're now posting the pictures of Bush sucking up to the Saudis on free republic and complaining that he's a little too tight with them ayrabs. It seems that finally they're starting to realize where his interests lie, or more specifically, where they don't lie, i.e. national security.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:57 PM
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54. So we sold 6 ports to an entity that has ties to Al Quaeda/terrorism?
Yipes. That's a bit of a bugger...
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:42 PM
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56. There is a Jeb Bush connection!
I just figured out this connection this afternoon at this thread that dropped fast.

On this thread, here's the background info:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2117603
U.S. Company Plans $265M Spaceport in UAE (here's why port deal?)

Thanks to NVMojo's original post:


ASSOCIATED PRESS

U.S. Company Plans $265M Spaceport in UAE
February 17, 2006

LOS ANGELES (AP) -

A day after Space Adventures announced it was in a venture to develop rocket ships for suborbital flights, the company said Friday it plans to build a $265 million spaceport in the United Arab Emirates.

The commercial spaceport would be based in Ras Al-Khaimah near the southern end of the Persian Gulf, and the UAE government has made an initial investment of $30 million, the Arlington, Va.-based company said in a statement.

The spaceport announcement comes on the heels of Space Adventures' new partnership with an investment firm founded by major sponsors of the Ansari X Prize to develop rocket ships for suborbital flights.

The agreement between Space Adventures and the Texas-based venture capital firm Prodea would help finance suborbital vehicles being designed and built by the Russian aerospace firm Myasishchev Design Bureau.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/tech/2006/feb/17/021700109.html




and here's info from the press release:

The company, which organized orbital flights for all of the world's private space explorers, also announces that His Highness Sheikh Saud Bin Saqr Al Qasimi of Ras Al-Khaimah, along with the UAE Department of Civilian Aviation, have granted clearance to operate suborbital spaceflights in their air space.

The UAE spaceport, planned to be located less than an hour drive from Dubai, already has commitments for $30 million (USD).

"I am proud to announce Ras Al-Khaimah as the site where suborbital commercial space travel will begin and flourish. Space Adventures is the pioneer of space tourism, which is why we signed an agreement with them nearly a year ago and began this project. After we initiate operations here, we look forward to expanding operations outside of the United Arab Emirates. In this regard, I would also like to announce that we have committed an additional $30 million (USD) of funding for global spaceport development. We are most excited about spearheading this multi-billion dollar industry," said His Highness Sheikh Saud Bin Saqr Al Qasimi, the Crown Prince of Ras Al-Khaimah, United Arab Emirates.

"Because of Ras Al-Khaimah’s unique airport and spaceport support facilities, His Highness' commitment to space tourism, and the close proximity to Dubai, one of the world's leading luxury tourist destinations, makes it a choice location for spaceflight operations," said Mr. Anderson. "As a global leader of tourism, the United Arab Emirates is an ideal location for a spaceport. Suborbital flights will offer millions of people the opportunity to experience the greatest adventure available, space travel. We are honored to partner with His Highness Sheikh Saud."

The suborbital space transportation system has been designed by Myasishchev Design Bureau, a leading Russian aerospace organization which has developed a wide-array of high performance aircraft and space systems. Explorer, as it has been named, will have the capacity to transport up to five people to space and is designed to optimize the customer experience of space travel, while maintaining the highest degree of safety.

The system consists of a flight-operational carrier aircraft, the M-55X, and a rocket spacecraft. The vehicle is designed to optimize the customer experience of space travel. "We've designed the Explorer with several exciting features that will be announced in the near future that will make the customer's experience fantastic. Additionally, the safety of the passengers is our chief aim and the Explorer will make use of several multi-redundant safety systems that we have unique experience in designing and implementing for the last 40 years," said Valery Novikov, head designer at the Myasishchev Design Bureau.

http://www.spaceadventures.com/media/releases/2006-02/347




Well, well, well, our little Jeb Bush is involved heavily in this. When I first read this story last month, I was shocked at how *left-field* this sounded. Well, this sure explains it. Nothing, repeat NOTHING these people do is without an ulterior motive.


Jeb Bush asks $55M for space agenda
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2050322&mesg_id=2050322

Direct link to main article in this above archived thread:
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060118/BREAKINGNEWS/60118012



Jeb Bush asks $55M for space agenda

By PAIGE ST. JOHN
FLORIDA TODAY

January 18, 2006

TALLAHASSEE -- To complement recommendations from his commission on space, Gov. Jeb Bush is asking the Legislature to approve a $55 million space agenda.

The largest share -- $35 million -- is money Bush promised contractors privately in December as part of what Florida could do to land NASA's intended shuttle replacement, the Crew Exploration Vehicle.

Two teams, one headed by Lockheed Martin and the other by Boeing and Northrop Grumman, have until later this month to submit their final bids for the chance to build the ships. Florida not only wants to launch the manned rocket ships, but assemble and repair them as well.

snip

Also in Bush's space budget:

$8 million for planning of a commercial spaceport that would allow horizontal launches, an effort to encourage space tourism and also facilitate current commercial launches that now are low priority at Cape Canaveral.


snip


http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060118/BREAKINGNEWS/60118012



And LOOK AT THIS:

Well, I declare, ALL of these secretive port decisions were made between November and January! And Jeb was also busy working on his end of it.

From the NYT, February 17, 2006

Stewart Baker, assistant secretary for policy at the Department of Homeland Security, said his department had no information about Dubai Ports World that justified an objection to the deal. Indeed, he said, the company has cooperated with the department in its efforts to secure American ports and ships in foreign ports.

"We did not find derogatory information in our review," he said.

But that review, Mr. Baker said, did not involve gathering information from outside sources, like the Port Authority, because the committee must keep a proposed transaction secret. He said the committee's investigation began in November and ended in mid-January.

The investigation did not include background checks on the senior managers of the company or an evaluation of how the company screens its own employees, Mr. King said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/17/nyregion/17ports.html



Although the Port of Miami is the FL port to go under UAE control, it ties in to Jeb Bush's devious Cape Canaveral plan (yes, there is Port Canaveral there that launches cruise ships)with something the UAE is intensely interested in.... SPACEPORTS.

The UAE is the common factor with the 6-port takeover, commercial spaceport ventures and Jeb Bush asking our Republican legislature for $8 Million for a spaceport for pleasure and commercial uses, which is currently "a low priority at Cape Canaveral."

And on top of all this, the secretive decisions to give up our control of 6 US ports to the UAE happened during the same time frame that Jeb was making interesting spaceport deals that parallel those of the UAE interests.


Whaddya know.




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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:03 PM
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59. wow...i believe this is just the tip of the iceberg...the part that really
threw me..is that the"committees investigation began in November and ended mid January"...AND the investigation DID NOT INCLUDE background checks on senior management or how it screens its employees....
give me a friggin break...its absurd ..
and by the way..good job..super sleuthing..seafan...
and your right..
WHADDYA KNOW??
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. i got one for you seafan, do you think whittington and.or Armstrong
are connected to the Carlyle group...
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:28 PM
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63. helderheid just informed me that whittingtons wife is james bakers
sister...now there is another whaddya know?...
im pissed..gonna go take a walk...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:54 PM
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65. Here's the thread that uncovered that
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 06:57 PM by helderheid
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:47 PM
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70. Afraid so. Whittington's wife is James A Baker, III 's sister.
It just winds tighter and tighter, doesn't it!

**The aspen are connected at the roots.**
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:54 PM
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73. And isn't it quaint ..Cheney claims he and Whittington are *acquaintances*
Just little ol' acquaintances!

This guy is James Baker's brother-in-law? Nah, don't even know 'im.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:59 PM
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58. If CARTER or CLINTON had allowed this... And where are the Minutemen? n/t
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:14 PM
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61. They're taking the $ and running - like with Enron
Does anyone get the feeling that America's leadership knows America is about to collapse, and just like the Enron higher-ups in the final days, they're taking whatever they can?
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:15 PM
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66. Please Tell Me Why NO ONE Gives a Damn About Domstic Spying?
I'm not concerned about the ports because "people are outraged" over it, so i know that will be dealt with.

But no one seems to be OUTRAGED about Domestic Spying, why no one is OUTRAGED about Senator Pat Roberts and his running interference with this fucking thugs in the white in obfuscations on this matter, why no one is OUTRAGED about the PA Reauthorization, why no one is OUTRAGED about why the Dems refuse to make this a bigger deal in the MEDIA EVERY FUCKING DAY.

I don't give a shit about Cheney's shooting, i don't give a shit about anything else right now but the Constitution and our BILL OF RIGHTS. IT's the only thing we have left, and we don't have it anymore.

Why isn't anyone OUTRAGED ABOUT THAT?




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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:41 PM
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67. well, we are...but at least that one is out in the open...and America
knows about it..many have even taken polls...even..and you are right it is unconstitutional...but this one is being very shrewdly executed...we found out about it this past week and its going to be approved on Monday (maybe)..and its the operation of our PORTS which are being SOLD to a foreign co...its the timing and the goddamned sneakiness of it...
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:07 PM
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68. It is never about protecting people.
Consider Indira Singh's story. This interview is a must-read: "Ground Zero 911, Blueprint For Terror, Part Two". Indira Singh, who was a software security contractor for JP Morgan, learned that a company that she was supposed to work with on a project, PTech, funds terrorist operations and was likely involved in facilitating the 9/11 attacks. PTech installs software throughout the U.S. government and corporate America. Singh thought she was being a good American and tried to warn government officials and corporate superiors that they are doing business with terrorists, and a few told her that she should be killed for learning this information.
http://tinyurl.com/bwrls
Here is another article which covers Indira Singh's story.
"They treated me like I was crazy, like I was the terrorist." And when the meeting finally happened, it was an Orwellian horror show. He asked where she had gotten her information, and as she named her individual sources Moran answered each name the same way, over and over: "That person should be killed... that person should be killed… that person should be killed."
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1.shtml


The next time a Freeper justifies the invasion of Iraq by saying, "don't you think the President was right to err on the side of caution and protect us?", just point out the UAE deal, Indira Singh, the administration's support for China's purchase of Unocal which was nixed, bending over for Saudis and Pakistanis who fund terror more than anyone, or even shutting down the porous border which has to be at least a little of a national security issue.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 08:29 PM
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69. Links, check them out and keep them kicked:
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 08:30 PM by tjwash
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:52 PM
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71. awesome - thanks.
This fries EVERYONE I know - no matter what their party affiliation, when they hear about it.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:53 PM
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72. It's blowing out of control rapidly! Celebrate!
This thing is spinning wildly at this point - you're getting your wish.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:19 AM
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75. My Dubai sale thread COMPILATION has grown! The current version-LINK:
These are threads I noticed and thought were important. I've surely overlooked many more. If you post a link to overlooked ones, I'll add them. Also, if anyone wants me to post this or my other compilations in plain text format so the URLs aren't truncated, post to let me know. I keep my monthly DU thread lists in Word format, so it's easy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2454971
thread title (2-12-06 GD-P): 911 Bankers to Run SIX Major U.S. Ports—Dubai(UAE). IMPEACH NOW!!!
Comment/excerpt: “Six ports will be run and protected by a Dubai based port management company (DP World): New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia. The deal was approved by a “U.S. government panel coordinated out of the White House. Just prior to the deal, David C. Sanborn of Virginia was appointed as administrator of the Maritime Administration of the Transportation Department. Sanborn worked as DP World's director of operations for Europe and Latin America.…. A company in the United Arab Emirates is poised to take over significant operations at six American ports as part of a corporate sale, leaving a country with ties to the Sept. 11 hijackers with influence over a maritime industry considered vulnerable to terrorism.“
Also gives info on Dubai’s links to suspected terrorist financing and money laundering.


Even the freepers are upset about this outrage:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446111
thread title (2-16-06 GD): Freepers JUST AS MAD About the Port Control Issue... Common Ground?
Comment/excerpt: Free Republic posts expressing concern/outrage over Dubai operating 6 major US ports.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x446003
thread title (2-16-06 GD): OK!!! I think the Pres. just cut his own throat!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2113537
thread title (2-16-06 LBN): White House Defends Port Operations Sale
Comment/excerpt: Yahoo News/AP. “The Bush administration on Thursday rebuffed criticism about potential security risks of a $6.8 billion sale that gives a company in the United Arab Emirates control over significant operations at six major American ports. Lawmakers asked the White House to reconsider the deal. The sale to state-owned Dubai Ports World was ‘rigorously reviewed’ by a U.S. committee that considers security threats when foreign companies seek to buy or invest in American industry, National Security Council spokesman Frederick Jones said….”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x453502
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Freeper and neocon websites unable to put a spin on the UAE port takeover
Comment/excerpt: COMPILATION post with many links and good explanation, for example of the role played by GOLD in the money trail to al Qaeda. Also that the United Arab Emirates were one of the THREE COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT RECOGNIZED THE TALIBAN AS THE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN. Much more on the obvious security disaster this deal would be and why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x452192
thread title (2-17-06 GD): Excellent! "Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal"
Comment/excerpt: Reuters: “Two U.S. Democratic senators said on Friday they would introduce legislation aimed at blocking Dubai Ports World from buying a company that operates several U.S. shipping ports because of security concerns. Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Hillary Clinton of New York said they would offer a measure to ban companies owned or controlled by foreign governments from acquiring U.S. port operations.” Hillary is calculating that the GOPs and Dems will like this position and it will boost her presidential chances, but I wouldn’t care WHO was calling for sanity in this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2115471
thread title (2-17-06 LBN): US Democrats plan bill to block Dubai-US port deal
Comment/excerpt: Cites same Reuters article as the preceding thread in GD.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x460075
thread title (2-18-06 GD): Please tell me why every other thread is not about the sale of the ports?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x461270#462457
thread title (2-18-06 GD): In light of the sale of 6 US ports to the United Arab Emirates, PNAC VIDEO
Comment/excerpt: Links to two Dutch VIDEOS, one 20 min and one 48 min. They are in English about the PNAC, the Carlyle group, and the greedy corporate network ruling the world today.. Reply #8 has a summary. Excerpt: “No civilised country would tolerate the close relationship Carlyle and, by practical extension, United States' president George W. Bush, enjoy with the Saudi royal family and its cohorts in terror, repression and murder. The behaviour of those setting the agenda of our global future is unconscionable at best and downright evil when taken at face value. The documentary is thoroughly researched, well presented, and carries no trace of the conspiratorial. The facts speak for themselves. Sowing death, destruction and terror about the globe, George W. Bush and his power-crazed sidekicks, supporters and collaborators are everything they pretend others to be; namely, global terrorists bent on furthering selfish interests.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2118357
thread title (2-18-06 LBN): Firm Sues to Block Foreign Port Takeover
Comment/excerpt: AP at Yahoo News and CBS – link in Reply #1. Excerpt: …“The Miami company, a subsidiary of Eller & Company Inc., presently is a business partner with London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., which Dubai Ports World purchased last week. In a lawsuit in Florida circuit court, the Miami subsidiary said that under the sale it will become an "involuntary partner" with Dubai's government and it may seek more than $10 million in damages. The Miami subsidiary, Continental Stevedoring & Terminals Inc., said the sale to Dubai was prohibited under its partnership agreement with the British firm and "may endanger the national security of the United States." It asked a judge to block the takeover and said it does not believe the company, Florida or the U.S. government can ensure Dubai Ports World's compliance with American security rules.” …
Reply #4 Cites and excerpts an important article on the Dubai sale in the Feb 12 Washington Post that describes the secretive process by which a government panel raised no objection to the sale:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/11/AR2006021101112.html


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2118356
thread title (2-18-06 LBN): Bill would stop sale of port operations to Arabs
Comment/excerpt: An editorial from Buffalo. Excerpt: “Democratic Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Robert Menendez of New Jersey have introduced legislation to prohibit companies owned or controlled by foreign governments from buying U.S. port operations. The measure is intended to block the $6.8 billion sale of a company that operates six U.S. ports to a firm controlled by the United Arab Emirates.“

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2118060
thread title (2-18-06 LBN): Fear Escalates on Foreign Control of Ports
Comment/excerpt: Washington Post, same title. Excerpt: “WASHINGTON -- A New Jersey congressman said Saturday he wants to require that security officials at U.S. ports be American citizens to prevent overseas companies operating shipping facilities here from hiring foreigners in such sensitive positions. Republican Frank A. LoBiondo, chairman of the Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation Subcommittee, cited "significant" security concerns over a $6.8 billion sale that gives a company in the United Arab Emirates control over operations at six major American ports. LoBiondo said he wants the new mandatory citizenship requirements approved by Congress and President Bush before state-owned Dubai Ports World completes its pending purchase of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. … Caught by surprise over the breadth of concerns expressed in the United States, Dubai Ports World is cautiously organizing its response. The company quietly dispatched advisers to reassure port officials along the East Coast, and its chief operating officer _ internationally respected American shipping executive Edward "Ted" H. Bilkey _ was expected to travel to Washington soon for meetings on Capitol Hill and elsewhere.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:45 AM
Response to Reply #75
77. Hey, excellent work there! That's a good database of info on this. n/t
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:41 AM
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76. It wouldn't surprise me if they sold the ports to Osama Bin Laden himself.
And then they would try to down play it:

"Osama is really not such a bad guy - he's trying to make an honest profit like any good American would - PLUS now he has a vested interest in staying out of terrorism. 9/11 is all water under the bridge, it's time for America to look forward and stop worrying about the past."

I honestly see this as not MUCH different as the real sale that is going on right now, yet NO ONE in the media is talking about it. This is SO Orwellian it's scary.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:51 AM
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80. kick
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:55 AM
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81. Because the rest are about how the "democrats" are gonna save us?
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA
WE are SO screwed.
Did people actually MISS the recent vote on the
PATRIOT ACT?
WHAT Democrats?
They are ALL owned by the very people
destroying us.
Sorry, but I am very near
"gone mad" at this point.
BHN
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 04:37 AM
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82. Yes but the only thing
that could have woke up more puke voters that they have been being butt reamed ever since their idol took office is if we gave Saddam a military escort back to Iraq, put him in his presidential palace and begged him to take his country over again.

They're scurrying around like a bunch of fire ants that just had their dirt mound kicked. :rofl:
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 06:05 AM
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83. The Hypocrisy is Matchless here...
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 06:06 AM by Peter Frank
Bush claims to be the "homeland" (I hate that term -- reminds me of the "Fatherland") security president.

While Bush strains at the gnat -- he swallows the camel. If only his ideological base knew how dedicated he is to his financial base.

His financial base is global & knows nothing of American values (let alone our Constitution).

Is our government still of, by, & for the people?



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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 06:54 AM
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84. I agree that there needs much more talking on this, and.....
Who are these UAE people. Are they the same folks watching the port at Yemen when USS Cole was ripped open? I think I read something like that on DU. Well anyways- I Agree, and have mentioned this to those around me.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 06:58 AM
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85. Here you go!
I'm doing a daily "collection" of republicans who are turning over a new leaf!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=450631&mesg_id=450631


enjoy! :)
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 07:00 AM
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87. Same reason they're not reporting about the Indiana Toll Road
being put up for sale by Indiana House Republicans...
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:53 AM
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88. Prediction: this story is ultimately about Cheney also.
Have you noticed how every single thing that is evil and wrong-headed in this administration always, always ends up having originated from the Dick?

I have concluded that Bush has no power or influence in his own regime. He is scared to death of the Dick, like everyone else in Washington.

Remember, the last Dick we put in charge of the government was Nixon.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:02 AM
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89. Because Iran is a bigger bogeyman than the UAE.
Perhaps America is tiring of being scared of all the terrible threats manufactured by politicians.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H.L. Mencken
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:18 AM
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90. firm sues to stop sale of ports..interesting because this may be the only
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 09:20 AM by xiamiam
way to stop...private firms and citizens suing ...to stop...this is the only ray of hope to at least stall this while Americans have an opportunity to discuss what a "secret government committee" approved along with Bush...now this committee was made up of reps from homeland security, justice, defense, and a few others??...its secret so of course we dont know much about it..but im guessing chertoff and gonzalez...are on board...how does that make you feel?...would be interesting to see who (are on the committee)pushed this approval thru...before Bush approved..and without any dialogue within America and its lawmakers and citizenry...
the info about the law suit came out on cbs late last eve...saturday...but other than that it appears that the media is pretty quiet about this...other than two senators coming forward, havent heard yet much else ..ive lost faith in the ability of a few in congress to stop anything this administration wants to do...its a new game, new rules, and requires a different approach...the law suit may stop this deal done on monday...we'll see..

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/19/ap/business/mainD8FRT6F00.shtml
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:28 AM
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91. Follow the money. This is about two corporations wanting to cash in.
Not about some imaginary threat to "national security".
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:45 AM
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92. right..im under no illusion that the suit is about protecting national sec
but hey. i had a screaming headache all day yesterday when i thought this would have the final sale done on monday as reported in the news article...im just hoping that this will delay it long enough for everyone in america to see what the hell is going on..
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