Freeper Friend's Son Headed For Iraq

[goclark]

I dearly love my friend,and her son, even though our political beliefs are not the same.

I believe she was fooled, like many, into believing the Bush Trap --- "if your child is a soldier then you MUST support the War."

So, sadly, this morning, she called to tell me the terrible news -- he leaves for Iraq next week.

He told her that he is going to be safe because God will protect him and he will only have to leave the base once a week.





:scared:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Be there for her

and let us know if the kid needs anything once he's over there. Maybe she will have the veil lifted from her eyes-and she will find out, at the very least, that Dems are humans who really care about others.

[w8liftinglady]

7. I agree-

On each of my son's deployments,I encountered republicans who either had a child in iraq,or a nephew.at first they go on about supporting the troops-but after a few weeks of listening to the news non-stop,trying to brace themselves for bad news,only to see the quagmire growing,they quietly ask "why".That is a good tme to just listen.(I was fortunate to have DU as a support system-and support me you all did)

[FreedomAngel82]

39. It seems like

they were expecting it to be easy and a breeze but realize what war is really like once they experience it first hand (isn't that how he always is?).

[goclark]

42. I agree

When he entered the service, the War had not started.

He was able to go up the ranks and visit exotic places.

Now is the wake up call ----

[goclark]

9. I will be there for her but I must admit that I gently told her

that I will be praying for him day and night( that I will do) and during the conversation I gently said, " Oh, I pray that there will be PEACE soon and that Cindy S. and others will help to end this War."

I was surprised when she said, " I hope so too."

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

47. Don't be surprised

I'm sure a lot of conflicting emotions are going through her at this time. Maybe for the first time she is realizing how Cindy feels-and hoping beyond hope that she doesn't become another Gold Star Mother.

[goclark]

49. I'm sure you are right

I was shocked that she didn't make any effort to defend the war to me.

Though we have never discussed my feelings, she knows that I worked night and day for Kerry,not Bush.

[MadisonProgressive]

2. I hope he and all the others will be 'safe'

but let's be real.

[yellerpup]

3. Reminds me of what a friend told me BEFORE the Iraq invasion

She was at an LA party and a friend's son, a newly minted Marine was very excited to be deployed. When she asked him whether or not he had considered that he might be killed or wounded, he responded: "I'm not worried at all. THEY told us this would be a Zero-Casualty conflict. He thought the Iraquis would be throwing flowers. I hope he made it back.

[yellowdogmi]

4. I admire that you are concerned for

her and her son despite your differences of opinion. You show a lot of class. If you could pass on some words of wisdom to the son, I would suggest finding an old vetran to follow around until he learns the ins and outs of the danger. Also keeping his head down will probably help more than praying. Please pass along my prayers.

YD

[goclark]

17. Thanks yellowdogmi - he just made Colonel

and according to his Mom,he said that, " he would not be in danger."

I recall when he was sent to Turkey he told her that he ,"Never had to leave the base."

A few months later, he slipped and she was devastated to learn that he had to leave the Base more often.

I'm sure that he has told her the Bushco Words for Parents.

[yellowdogmi]

35. Then I don't imagine

that he has too much to worry about. I would be more concerned if he was a poor enlisted person. Still I think that you really show a lot of class putting friendship ahead of opinions. I have a few friends and relatives that just make me want to scream. It is enough to make me hibernate for the next few years.

[goclark]

41. Thanks yet those bullets

and car bombs don't ask what rank.

[yellowdogmi]

46. Good point. eom

[benburch]

5. Most make it back OK, at least physically.

I hope this will be true of your friend.

[goclark]

20. Thanks so much benburch

I wish the same for ALL of the troops.

Since I believe this war is senseless, it is mighty hard to be supportive of my friend.

The good part for me is that we never talk politics.

[AnneD]

6. Almost 3,000 others

thought the same. And telling yourself that they died for a noble cause is just a juicy rationalization to help you make it through the day and soothe your conscious, but it does not bring the dead back.
My prayers and sympathy are with your friend and her son. Nothing will be the same ever again.

[sandnsea]

8. Friend on his 3rd tour

Just saw his mother a week or so ago and she told us. They're still completely gung ho, the father is retired Navy. I remember the kid in high school, telling me all about Columbus and spreading small pox to the Indians, etc. He knows the US history, he just can't apply it to the current situation. I don't get it. I just wish them well, anything else seems cruel, not to mention pointless. *sigh*

[Mythsaje]

10. I gotta reiterate

this whole "god will protect me" thing just gets under my skin...And what makes YOU so much more special than the two and a half thousand American men and women who've been killed over there?

Drives me crazy to hear/read stuff like this.

[MadisonProgressive]

11. They must have been godless heathens

or worse - they could have been LIBERALS!!:wow:

[goclark]

12. I totally agree with you

however, I believe that Bushco feeds the soldiers the words to tell their parents/friends at Breakfast everyday.

[mtnsnake]

13. I'm with you

And then when something tragic happens, they're always the first ones to say "God wanted it this way".

[goclark]

14. I agree

I am Christian and we do send mixed messages, especially in times like these.

It is polite, IMO, to be supportive of friends/acquaintances.

I did mention to her that I would be praying for all the soldiers and wanted them ALL to come home safely right away.

She did not disagree with me.

I took that to mean that she knows, in her heart, that this War is wrong but as a friend, this was not the time for me to tell her that TRUTH.

[mtnsnake]

48. Your friend is very lucky that she has you as a friend

and I'm sure you feel the same way about her.

It's really heartening to see people like you, goclark...and also your friend...who put friendship above politics. My best lifelong friend became a diehard Republican as he grew older. I became a diehard Democrat. People really do change in different ways as they grow older. The only thing that doesn't change, however, is a our friendship. It's as strong as ever, and we don't let politics interfere. If ever one of us needs a friend, we can count on the other one to be right there. Whenever we have a chance to get together, we're just friends, not Republicans or Democrats.

[goclark]

50. Thanks mtnsnake!

My friend and her entire family have been there for ME for the last 20 years.

We have mutual respect for each other.

Believe it or not, she is compassionate, always thinking of others,always.

Now I have another "friend" that always "rubs it in" that she is a Republican.
At first I would not respond to her glowing praise of Bushco.

The other day we were discussing the tragic death of a mutual friend. Freeper said," if she had been able to get a stem cell procedure, she would be alive today."

I let her have it, reminding her that "Your George Bush is against saving a life that way. That is the lack of treatment our friend got because you voted for that evil man!"

Freeper shut up and got real quiet.
She knew she put her foot in her mouth with goclark.

[Ellen Forradalom]

16. It's called 'grasping at straws'

Anything to keep from going insane at the thought that he might well be hurt, or even killed. The emotional basis is understandable even if it's irrational and insulting to others.

[goclark]

19. I wish that Jenna and Lil Barb had to do a stay in Iraq

I bet this war would be over in a heartbeat.

[AndyTiedye]

33. Bush Would Send His Daughters To Iraq If His Handlers Thought…

…it would help consolidate the BFEE's grip on power.

[Blue Belle]

44. I wish they were made to go to Iraq... even if it's with the USO.

They'd be supporting the troops.. right?

[goclark]

51. Maybe someone should take a few of those Moms and Dads

over to spend a day helping the Iraqi children out at school.

They are willing to send their children but I don't see any of them helping out.

[Mythsaje]

25. I understand it, but it drives me nuts...n/t

[MADem]

29. Well, God had better, 'cuz he can't count on the body armor

Wonder how long it'll be before he realizes that "only go outside the wire once a week" story was total bullshit??? Unless he's fairly far up the food chain, or a pencil pusher, he's gonna be given an 'opportunity to excel' on a more frequent basis, I'm guessing.

[JVS]

31. "god will protect me" is poor doctrine.

It assumes that God cares whether a person lives or not.

[goclark]

36. You are preaching to the choir here

We get it, the Bush Crime family understands that too.

They are smart enough to get sheep to believe that doctrine so that they will
risk their life for "their country."

[Blue Belle]

43. He may think God protects him...

but just to be on the safe side, I hope his family purchases the good body armour and not the cheap $700 stuff.

[goclark]

53. Sad but excellent point Blue Belle

To think that Bushco doesn't care about BODY ARMOR!

He needs to donate his oil money for the armor and put his money where is deeds are -

[Spinzonner]

15. Well, if he can time the IED frequencies just right

that once-a-week schedule ought to work for him.

:sarcasm:

[goclark]

18. I know, see up thread

I didn't believe the once a week Words for one minute.

Even if that were the case, it only takes a second to be a victim.

And, I do consider the Iraqi people at risk EVERY DAY as well.

How do those families feel!

This WAR gets more insane by the second.

[Renew Deal]

21. God isn't protecting the others?

I wish him and all of the others the best.

[goclark]

22. Me too

Of course, for a Mom, their main concern is their child.

[dogday]

23. Mine has been there almost 3 months now

He told me the other day he might have to go somewhere by helicopter and I freaked. I hear so many of those helicopter down stories, it gives me chills.

[NMDemDist2]

24. ....

:hug: cuz that's all I know to do

:hug: :hug:

[dogday]

26. Thank you, DU helps me cope

cause it can get harry some days.....

[DRoseDARs]

27. He didn't protect the 2200+ others. None of them were True Christians nt

:puke:

[goclark]

32. A mother's first thought is for her own

And certainly the 2200 + others wanted their prayers/wishes/hopes to be granted as well.

And I never want to forget the Iraqi peoples prayers/wishes/hopes that their relatives and dear ones will live to see another day.

[noahmijo]

28. You know what go ahead and flame away but I don't feel any pity for her

What about the thousands who were sent over there who DISAGREE with the war what about those parents who disagree with bush and the war but yet still have kids serving over there?

And obviously she believes her son is going out for a noble cause and "God is going to protect him"

Guess what lady get the fuck outta your fantasy land, your kid is going over there to harm's way at the behest of a sick little punk who was jonesing to start his own little war so his pals could profit and so that he could sucker people JUST LIKE YOU into believing that he was chosen by Jesus to kill the infidels who dare to have brown skin and he's using YOUR child to do HIS dirty work.

I do not of course wish anything bad to happen to the kid, but as far as I'm concerned she is simply antying up instead of joining the ranks of those who have loved ones over there but never wanted anything to do with this bullshit war in the first place. When people like her wake the fuck up and get outta their ridiculous superstitious views and start living in reality and start demanding that the rich pay for their own fucking wars THEN I'll stand with people like her.

She belongs to the group of ENABLERS she and the like voted for and support the man who is sending her child into certain death all because she felt comfort in supporting a man who would keep her safe from the queers and abortion.

Sorry no pity for her NONE.

[goclark]

34. I don't believe that she wants pity

I do believe that she will see this through glasses that are not so rosey now.

How I wish that she, and thousands of others, would have been wise enough to not encourage their young, for whatever reason, to follow the Bush Crime family into this senseless war.

How many Mom's have joined Cindy's Gold Star Moms that were able to see the light after blindly following the WMD LIES of Bush?

[DenaliDemocrat]

37. I do not pity her, I respect this person

no one on this planet hates Bush more than I do, but there are some that follow him dillengtly and support his war. Those that follow him and send their children into battle zones for him, while I believe are misguided, they certianly do hold true to their convictions. I can respect that.

It is the chickenhawks, who scream for war whie their sons and daughters attend "coming out parties" and join the "rowing team" at Yale that make me want to do violence.

[goclark]

40. Well said DenaliDemocrat

"It is the chickenhawks, who scream for war while their sons and daughters attend "coming out parties" and join the "rowing team" at Yale that make me want to do violence."

And it is the Dick Cheney's out playing with guns while our children and the Iraqi people are dying everyday that drive me crazy.

[noahmijo]

54. well I couldn't respect her any less

Just because she is willing to send her son to the meat grinder doesn't mean the rest of us should have to. As I said people like her are enables of people like bush and when they put people like him into power and are willing to sacrifice their first borns they take the rest of us with them unwillingly-and that is not worthy of respect.

[goclark]

57. She did not send her son to the meat grinder

He was over 21 when HE decided to make the Air Force his career.

He reenlisted at least twice. :(

[smartvoter]

45. At least she's walkin' the walk, unlike the great chickenhawk. nt

[JVS]

30. Tell her not to worry at all! After all, the book says

"If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord."-- Romans 14:8

[FreedomAngel82]

38. I hope he does stay safe

But I do get tired of people thinking God is like a fairygod parent. :eyes:

[goclark]

52. GW sure doesn't believe that God is the answer

He is phony through and through.
Edit to Add: He believes in bullets and bombs and $$'s from our pockets not his!


To me, "God" is not an answer but a HOPE .

I must say that I believe in HOPE and NEVER GIVING UP.

IMO, it beats being cynical.

I always like to look at life as if the glass will be full.

[NuttyFluffers]

55. my sympathies to the family. as said above, be there for her.

this must be a trying time. and even if we as friends and neighbors disagree at times, no misguided family is deserving of such anxiety or, god forbid, tragedy. she'll need an ear and a shoulder, and it sounds like you have the dignity and endurance to be that. she's very lucky to have even just that right now.

O8)

[goclark]

56. Thanks Nutty Fluffers

:dilemma: :hug:

It is so easy to just be cynical.

And, oh so hard to turn the other cheek and to be there for our friends just as they have been there for us.

Sometimes I think that Bushco has stolen our real hearts and turn them into rocks.

The hurt that he had given to this country makes us weak when we should be even more compassionate and more determine to work for the good of all humankind.

[PBass]

58. You're a good friend

We can't lose sight of our humanity, even though this war is a national disgrace.

[goclark]

59. Thank you PBass, sometimes it's hard to

look above it all when we are so hurt by the wrongs done by GW.