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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:48 AM
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Google rips Bush administration's search request
Go Google! :bounce: Go Google! :bounce: Go Google! :bounce: Go Google!

If any Google guys, or gals, are reading this:

:yourock:

Google rips Bush administration's search request

Google called the Bush administration's request for data on Web searches as ``so uninformed as to be nonsensical'' in papers filed in San Jose federal court Friday, arguing that turning over the information would expose its trade secrets and violate the privacy of its users.

The 21-page brief filed by the Mountain View search giant angrily dissected the government's claim that the search results would produce useful evidence regarding child pornography.

The Justice Department asked a federal judge to force Google to turn over the data last month, after Google refused to comply with an earlier subpoena. Government lawyers said the searches would help it defend the Child Online Protection Act, which was struck down as unconstitutional. The law is designed to keep children from sexually explicit material on the Internet.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:55 AM
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1. Go Google!
:yourock:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:02 AM
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2. excuse me but ... BWAHAHAHAHAHA! nonsensical, Great.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:11 AM
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3. Now let me get this straight.
"Government lawyers said the searches would help it defend the Child Online Protection Act, which was struck down as unconstitutional." So this means that the "government lawyers are going ahead with trying to prosecute this "law", even after the courts have struck it down for being unconstitutional? Isn't there something wrong with this concept? Wouldn't Google be within the law to simply say that since this whole law has been struck down, any subpoena for the prosecution of this law is invalid? Can the government continue to prosecute a law after it has been struck down? I don't get it...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:18 AM
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6. you are not supposed to "get it"
you are to accept it because it`s "for the children"
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bainz Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:16 AM
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4. Perhaps...
...they are trying to protect the privacy of google.cn users. Go Google!!!
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:25 AM
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7. They're not Yahoo, that's for sure.
Google hasn't actually handed a user's email messages to the Chinese Thought-Police like Yahoo did last year. This is a good thing. Now if they could just get their shit together and stop blocking sites...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 02:26 PM
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15. Hi bainz!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:16 AM
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5. using the child porn ruse
how clever of them. so google has child porn links?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:45 AM
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8. Google rocks. Yahoo sucks.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:50 AM
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9. So Uncle Sam wants to babysit my kids
the old perv is at it again!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 02:21 AM
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10. What I don't get...
...is how having this data could do anything about pedophiles or online pornographers.

BushCo has stated that the data obtained by search engines would not be an invasion of privacy because the user's identity would not be revealed.

Ok.

So...if you don't know who is looking at what---how are you going to catch anyone doing anything criminal?

Someone needs to call these asswipes on the carpet for their inconsistencies--and lies.

I'd love for them to come out and admit that they'll have the search histories for millions of people and also the identities of these people as well. That outta scare about 80 percent of the country!

They have no damn business knowing where we go online, and what we do!

If they truly want to stomp out child pornography--then they should hire people with the specific goal of doing so. Sifting through millions of searches from average people who are doing NOTHING wrong--seems like a wasteful, ineffective way to root out child pornographers.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 02:35 AM
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12. Now watch the WH spin Googles decision, "Since Google isn't with us, they
must be against us. Google is harboring pedophiles!"

Am I wrong?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:48 AM
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13. Yes, I can hear it now...
"You're either with us, or you're with the pedophiles!"

Our politicians don't do a very good job of exposing the flawed logic, lies and manipulations of BushCo. It doesn't take much to do so--just a few brain cells and a spine. Let's hope that Google keeps stating the obvious.

It's time that our entire nation started standing up to these goons.

Google reps should stand up and say, "This administration wants the search histories from everyone--that's ALL OF YOU. They claim that they're looking for pedophiles. However, they also claim that the search histories will not reveal identities. How will this administration catch pedophiles without identities? The administration needs to explain this inconsistency to the American public."

It's too bad our elected officials won't do this. Maybe those outside of the system--who aren't being blackmailed or intimidated--can save the day.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 12:33 PM
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14. It doresn't do a thing to catch pedophiles
but it's a great way to get some dirt on your political opposition - without a messy warrant and all.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 02:33 AM
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11. Yeah, that's what they are SAYING - but we must keep a close eye
on Google forever. They are practically a public utility and must be scrutinized as such. This is a good sign though.
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