Rove's Big Mistake: "Angry Left" more Macho than "Silent Majority"

[KoKo]

Anyone remember Nixon's "Silent Majority?"

CNN Cold War - Historic Documents: Nixon's 'Silent Majority' Speech
And so tonight -- to you, the great silent majority of my fellow Americans -- I ask for your support. I pledged in my campaign for the presidency to end the ...
www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/11/documents/nixon.speech/

The slogan was carried forward in the Media by Falwell and Buchanan and all the Repugs for Decades. It eventually morphed into the "Moral Majority," that that we deal with today in one form or another but with different names depending on which Think Tank is writing the Talking Points.


The Moral Majority, according to the Columbia Encyclopedia (Sixth Edition, 2001), is a "U.S. political action group composed of conservative, fundamentalist Christians. Founded (1979) and led (1979-87) by evangelist Rev. Jerry Falwell, the group played a significant role in the 1980 elections through its strong support of conservative candidates. It lobbied for prayer and the teaching of creationism in public schools, while opposing the Equal Rights Amendment, homosexual rights, abortion, and the U.S.-Soviet SALT treaties. The Moral Majority was dissolved in 1989." <1> (http://www.bartleby.com/65/e-/E-MoralMajo.html)


QUESTION:

So...since some of us Democrats are now branded the "Angry Left" how far do you think we can morph that one to our own Dem Advantage? I kind of like Angry Left because it just might gain some recruits given the way the things are going downhill for the Bushies lately in the minds of most Americans. :shrug:

[Mme. Defarge]

1. I've been trying to get something going with this idea ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=472119&mesg_id=472119

"While there there may well be parallels between the rise of Hitler and fascism and what's happening today in the U.S., those Red State folks, who we really need on our side if we are going to scourge our country of this gang, just don't get it.

On the other hand, characterizing them as outlaws -- which they are -- just might sell. What the Dems need is the political and non-violent equivalent of Wyatt Earp and Doc Holiday go after those "red-sash" curs with the simple, straight forward message that Bush & Co. are the bad guys. My money is on Al Gore -- I personally think he'd look great in black 10-gallon hat and a duster."

[LiberalEsto]

13. We are the Angry Majority

not merely the Angry Left.

That's how we should reframe this accusation.

[anarch]

27. yeah...that's exactly what I thought when I saw this

And a growing majority, I'm pretty sure. You can only push people so far.

[Road Scholar]

30. All of the Republicans in Congress are a bunch of spineless wimps

Sissy bastards.

[EFerrari]

2. What a good idea. Flip his tool on him.

:thumbsup:

[FreedomAngel82]

9. Yes

I like it too. We are the one's fighting the good fight. Show people how we can fight.

[elehhhhna]

3. We have every reason to be angry and this label will misfire/backfire,

bigtime, imo.

[spindrifter]

6. I totally agree--

can't think of any administration that has brought on so much to be angry about. These guys got off their own message and lost control.

[FreedomAngel82]

10. Lots of people are angry at various issues

whether with the enviornment to the ports deal.

[yurbud]

15. backfire on right for calling us that? Problem is getting most Dems to

act as if they were angry or even care.

[glitch]

16. Yes - because we aren't the only people who are angry.

Although I prefer "fucking livid".

[elehhhhna]

26. Anyone who's awake is PISSED OFF

[stepnw1f]

4. Rove Has Screwed Up

The "Left" is not the only angry body of people in this country.

[KoKo]

18. CNN hack Bill Schneider did a piece on "Angry Voters" last week.

He was discussing a Gallop poll that showed that BOTH Dem and Repug voters were Angry. He kept using that word to describe all the issues that voters were angry about and saying that the numbers were equal for both Dems and Repugs in the survey. He said voters are angry with Congress and both parties and that meant "Watch Out for incumbents in '06." (his quote)

I had thought someone would post it on DU because Schneider is usually attacking Dems but I didn't see anything. Still that he was ranting on about Angry Voters sure does make it seem that we Dems could run with ANGRY LEFT and use it to our advantage in the coming years.

We are definitely going to have alot more to be Angry about given the way the Bushies are still going full steam ahead to drive the country into ruin.

[KittyWampus]

28. May I just quickly say I prefer the term ENERGIZED?

like heck, we aren't angry, we are ENERGIZED, ready to get back to work making America strong again.

[Warpy]

5. We can morph this to our own Dem advantage if the prissy

party conservatives will keep their big fat mouths shut for one time in their prissy lives.

Anger is what the rank and file Democrats have been feeling for a very long time. Anger is the appropriate response to men who throw us out of good jobs and expect us to live on starvation wages doing retail. Anger is the best response to men who start wars of corporate convenience and get our kids maimed or killed. Anger is the best response to men who are hell bent on destroying everything that was ever great about this country. Anger is the best response to men who lie, cheat, and steal to get whatever they want and try to tell us how godly they are.

"Angry left" sums my feelings up just fine, thank you, and I'm pretty sure it sums up the feelings of people who are considerably to the right of me, all the way into moderate

[watrwefitinfor]

7. If you're not angry you're not paying attention. (n/t)

[FreedomAngel82]

11. And what I have noticed

lots of great democrats work passionatley when they're pissed off. That's how I am. The more angry I am the harder I work on something.

[EFerrari]

14. The morph is to "angry voters" -- seniors, workers,

Katrina survivors, military families, first responders -- geeze, who HASN'T been screwed by the BFEE in the last 6 years?

[glitch]

17. Perfect!

edit: or Angry Americans.

[EFerrari]

19. Don't ya think? "Sure, Democrats are angry. VOTERS are angry.

This administration has failed them at every point . . ."

DU, the largest think tank on the net. :P

[KoKo]

25. See Post #18 on this thread...about CNN reporting on "angry voters."

[MADem]

21. Exactly--angry seniors, who can't get their damn prescriptions filled

and are being taxed out of their homes; angry parents, who can't afford to send their kids to college; angry kids, who want to go to school but have to defer their education to work at a shit job and try to save for tuition; angry workers, who want to work but find their jobs are all exported overseas because it's cheaper for the corporate pigs to pay slave wages for work that is not quite as good, but will do; angry citizens, who either have to pay more and more for basic services or see them degrade to unacceptable, third world levels....

Jimmy Carter called it a MALAISE. It's a fucking angry malaise, and it's getting madder by the minute, nowadays!!!

[ima_sinnic]

35. I like Angry Majority, as mentioned upthread

Angry Voters is good too!

[FatDave]

53. Warpy, I think you should be somebody's speech writer (nt)

[tularetom]

8. You're goddamn right we're angry

and we have every fuckin reason in the world to be angry. These assholes have FUBAR'ed our country and made us the laughing stock of the whole fucking world. It's time we got rid of these incomptent crooked muthafuckas and got things back in the right direction. What the fuck is wrong with all the people in the US who ain't angry? They got their heads up their ass or something? Wake up you dumb assholes and get angry too!

Boy that felt good. I agree with you. I'd much rather be a member of the "angry left" than a "brie and chardonnay liberal".

[malaise]

12. Were the Resistance Movements in France

the 'Angry Left'? Somebody better stand up and resist these goons.

[yurbud]

20. it's a good thing the French Resistance didn't have the DLC

"Why are you guys so anti-nazi? You should have a positive, upbeat message like, 'We can do better.' You shouldn't draw attention to things like rounding up and summarily executing resistance fighters and Jews--just say something like 'Due process is an important French value.' People will get the implication--trust us."

Oh wait, they did have this. They were the Vichy.

[KoKo]

40. TRUE! ROFL! and it's a good thing they didn't have "Polls," EITHER!

Or, we most likely wouldn't recognize even today our "unrecognizable country."

[Mme. Defarge]

22. This may be the ultimate question ...

I challenge the MSM to identify one single success of this administration. Is there one? What is it?

[upi402]

23. Angry patriotic left

:patriot: truth here

[KoKo]

41. FLY FLAG...back attcha....they try to take "everything" away from us...

and yet...our country was FOUNDED on ANGRY Insurgents...REVOLUTIONARIES...and NOW...that's dirty words..:-(

[TahitiNut]

24. Better to be silent and be thought an idiot than speak up and remove doubt

The (so-called) "silent majority" once took this advice. Sadly, they've now removed all doubt.

[omega minimo]

44. The Silent Majority is neither

:hi:

[threadkillaz]

29. "Angry" Majority VS. "Lying" Minority

Bush at 39% and Cheney at 29% approval rating.


This is WAY beyond partisanship now.

[KoKo]

31. One would hope so...that Freeps are waking up to smell the coffee...

But, do we really want the Media Fourth Estate deciding the issues?

:shrug:

[DoYouEverWonder]

32. Sure beats

being a wimpy liberal.

Thanks Karl.

[omega minimo]

33. As useful to dismiss Dems as on outspoken women: "angry" "humorless"

Sound familiar? :evilgrin:

[KoKo]

36. yes...it does...but a "MIGHTY FORCE" bit them in the ass...the Repugs

when they tried this s**t before....and it will come back to bite them harder...once again.

I think so, anyway...

[kineneb]

50. nah, the R's and the fundie are the humorless ones

they are totally incapable of laughing at themselves and seeing the humor of their situations. We are still able to laugh. So lets laugh in their faces, in a nice, threatening way...heh, heh!:evilgrin:

[Justice Is Comin]

34. We should use it like judo.

I can't tell if most of our Dems shouldn't be wearing dresses instead of pants. Jesus Christ, when you have somebody who breaks your knee with a baseball bat, you don't thank him for not breaking the other one.

People would storm the polls like a swat team if somebody took charge and rammed the "angry" right up their ass. How much of a better gift do you wimps in Congress need?

Get off your Demerol !!!!! :argh:

[KoKo]

37. a Great post that "cuts through the CRAP!"

I know ...one would think it would be obvious when "knee caps" get broken...but just keeping reading and linking to all the great new supportive Dem sites might just keep us able to fight against THE BULLY BOYS?

:shrug: I just worry that the RIGHT WINGERS waking up now to the Idiocy of the Bush P-Residency will co-opt OUR Message.

We just can't let that happen...for the sake of "Unity," methinks. But, then, I'm one of what the M$M calls the "Angry Left." :-( Already I've been labeled.

[omega minimo]

38. That macho crap will be jujitsued on you

"I can't tell if most of our Dems shouldn't be wearing dresses instead of pants." :puke:

Did you think at all about #33 before saying "yeah, but..........."?

Need to reconsider the strategery :hi:

[KoKo]

39. I did read it all...but had a different take than you?

:shrug:...Whatever...I said what I needed to...and am comfortable with that.

[omega minimo]

42. There's a point there

you missed it. Any you're comfortable with that. :hug:

Okay-- I hope your strategery works you for. I suspect that the Rovians have anticipated every move. Consider the suggestion in #33-- if you consider how "angry" is used to dismiss people right here!!! B-)

They gotcha son.

[Justice Is Comin]

49. Are you kidding ?

These are the totals of the last election.


Total

62,028,285 ..... 50.7

59,028,109 ......48.3



59 Million didn't want that deluded pig farmer in 2004 !!!


That's before PlameGate, Libby charges, Cunningham, CIA officer in charge of intelligence saying Bush put us in unnecessary war, Spy-Gate, medicare scam, bankruptcy bill, Alito, and terrorist run ports-- just for starters.

What does it take to get you to understand? Kerry didn't win because of your softball preferred tulip tip toeing. They need anger rammed right up their ass and the Democrats will turn out in numbers never before seen in history.

[omega minimo]

51. No, but anyone with the

"rammed right up their ass" can't be taken seriesly :thumbsdown:

[Ksec]

43. Im mad as Hell and Im not gonna take it anymore

Im pissed and Im Left.
Were here and we aint going anywhere. If the silent majority realizes the errors theyve made then theyre welcome to join the rest of us pissed off people.

And if you arent mad, then youre not paying attention.

Good idea KoKo

[KoKo]

45. yeah...instead of the "Angry Left" what about "Angry Americans!" that's

why I thought Rove and the Right "shot themself in the foot."

They are running out of ideas and to put that "meme" out there to make us on the left who liked Hackett suddenly cower under our bunkers sort of didn't work.

ANGRY AMERICANS! ANGRY VOTERS!

It has a great ring to it. It could Morph into: "Peasants with Pitchforks...TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM THE BUSH CORPORATISTS!"

Their worst dream...an Impowered America...with the "Angry Left" being the ones "fueling the fire."

It could happen....they've PUSHED TOOOOOO FARRRRR....for even the most Gun Crazed Raging Freeper not to notice.

[roseBudd]

46. and Mosh is our anthem, thank you Eminem...

And to the Republic for which it stands
One nation under God
Indivisible・
It feels so good to be back..]

Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind
I ostracize my right to express when I feel it's time
It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
I say to fight you take it as I知 gonna whip someone's ass
If you don't understand don't even bother to ask
A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
Or at least shows no difficulty multi task
And juggling both, perhaps mastered his craft slash
Entrepreneur who has held long too few more rap acts
Who has had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
Of his career typical manure moving past that
Mister kiss his ass crack, he's a class act
Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

To the people up top, on the side and the middle,
Come together, let's all bomb and swamp just a little
Just let it gradually build, from the front to the back
All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
Don't matter what color, all that matters is we gathered together
To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more then ever,
They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go,
Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
Stomp, push up, mush, fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home come on just . . .

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors, come on

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us,
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying
we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered
This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding,
How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

So come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors


And as we proceed, to mosh through this desert storm, in these closing statements, if they should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences, and assemble our own army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president, for the present, and mosh for the future of our next generation, to speak and be heard, Mr. President, Mr. Senator

[LiberalEsto]

47. Angry Patriots

another possible frame

[NewJeffCT]

48. It's always taken guts to be a liberal

Our side has had JFK, RFK and MLK all gunned down in their primes. Who have they lost via assassination that way?

We're the ones that get called unpatriotic traitors for opposing Vietnam then & Iraq now. Were those for those wars branded similarly?

We're the side that gets the angry anonymous phone calls if we write a LTTE, or gets the glares if we have an anti-Nixon or anti-Reagan or anti-Bush bumper sticker on our car. Does the opposite happen to them?

we're the ones with very little voice in the media.

We're the ones challenging the status quo and trying to bring change for the benefit of the majority.

We're the party that led our nation to victory in WW1 and WW2 and also out of the Great Depression.

So, it takes some guts to be a part of the "angry left"

[montana500]

52. interesting post.

I think you might be on to something there.

[Cronus Protagonist]

54. We're angry about the culture of corruption in the Whitehouse

Back-at-cha, George!

:evilgrin: