James Carville has Jumped the Shark as a Democratic Voice.

[leftchick]

I just turned on CNN and watched him say on wolfies show " I agree with Candy Crowely in the green room who said the VP was just embarrassed to come out and make a statement about shooting his friend"!

Thanks Jim, now take a long hike with your harpy wife. :grr:

[Gabi Hayes]

1. very very sad....you KNOW who's wearing the pants...and panties

in that family

she called him a 'loser' on MTP a few weeks ago, when they were plugging their book

[linazelle]

2. In the scheme of things, that is SO unimportant. If he had to go along

on one thing, I would agree with that. Whittington has even apologized for satan's sake. This story is old news and it's been overplayed at the expense of more important issues.

[unblock]

8. in a rational world, i might agree with you

but in a world where everything from personnel changes (travelgate) to innocent suicide (vince forster murder) to side nookie (monicagate/impeachment) get covered non-stop throughout a popular presidency and ultimately lead to impeachment; in a world where draft-dodging cowardly liars can successfully smear their honorable medaled veteran opponents as liars and traitors; in such a world we have to keep this type of story alive.

the shoot first and cover up later attitude of this administration needs to be out there, front and center. the liberal over-reliance on "issues" needs to be checked a bit (no, not entirely) to make room for enough flash and sizzle to register with america. they're tired of being put to sleep with issues.

[Gabi Hayes]

12. according to tweety, howard F, and chuck henry, I think....linazelle--

wrong

unblock right

they agreed that all the other crap, mentioning WMDs, secret energy meetings, things like that, had pretty much NO effect on the sheeple, BUT this shoot a guy in the face thing is kind of hard to ignore, and will resonate much more than wonky stuff with people who pay very little attention

I go along with that reading

[marions ghost]

50. right

"sticking to the issues" and taking the high road --hasn't exactly worked well as a strategy against the Neocon thugs. They need to be aggressively exposed and criticized and hounded relentlessly, in exactly the same way as they have done to liberals.

The Neocons have used liberal non-aggression and willingness to compromise, to great advantage. Liberals are going to have to fight, or at least support whoever's willing to fight these white collar criminals who have hijacked the government.

[Pastiche423]

21. It will never be old news to me

That one incident highlighted the lies, the secrecy and the above the law mentality that is the Madministration in one fell swoop.

[leftchick]

26. Exactly Pastche. And Carville shrugged his shoulders and said

"it is old news". What a fuck head.

[William769]

3. He's entitled to his opinion

Doesn't mean he's always going to be right with it. But he's still a great voice for the Democrats & will continue to be in the upcoming elections.

[xultar]

17. Can you believe that shit? Poor man can't even say what he thinks.

Sounds to me like people want us in lock step only when we agree with them. Other than that they want us to STFU.

Wouldn't any human who says they are experienced @ anything and end up hurting someone be embarrassed?

Wouldn't anyone be embarassed if they ran over their wife's feet? Accidentally shot their best friend when showing off a gun?
Accidentally shot a friend @ the gun range? Ran into their friends porch with their car?

HAS DU GONE MAD? IS it TREASON against progressive values to say that the DICK was embarrassed?

What?

DU WAKE UP! Look @ what your posting.

[rsmith6621]

4. Carville Probably Was a PUG Hack.....

Working on The Kerry 2004 campaign.....

Miss Matlin must wear not only the PANTS but the Condoms as well seeing as though James is the one getting SCREWED....He's not the same Carville that worked with Bill Clinton....

[leftchick]

6. he is no where near that James of old

that must happen living with crazy mary.

[HereSince1628]

7. Come on Carville is THE quintessential angry liberal.

Lose him and we lose one of the only things laughable in the hole mess.

[sendero]

5. I like Carville..

.. but there is no way in hell you can take being a Dem spokesperson seriously and also be married to that dried-up hagatha Mary Matalin. Nobody can "compartmentalize" that damn much.

[leftchick]

9. indeed

:crazy:

[SoCalDem]

10. He did that YEARS ago.. It's high time we all realized that these

so-called spokespersons are in it for the MONEY, and will sell their services to the highest bidder.

Begala claims to be friends with Rove, so does Donna Brazile.. The whole DC politico-scene is an incest-fest. They are all in and out of bed with each other, and vast quantities of cash change hands faster than you can say Prince Pissypants.

[Skidmore]

13. What SoCalDem said.

[Tellurian]

20. Yes, they've all learned a MERCENARY'S Pay, pays better...

than a hero's pay, helping people.

The Carville's 'K-Street' endeavor was a disaster.

I guess Clooney gave then more credit for brains than they truly deserved.

[leftchick]

22. I agree SoCal

right after I posted this I thought, damn, james has been a turd for a really long time. And Begala is a waste of air along with brazile and juts about any other so called Dem for TV. It is sickening how we rarely have a real voice. :(

[converted_democrat]

29. Well said..

Too bad many within our own party can't see it..

[susu369]

52. Seems staying on the cocktail circuit is what is really important

- and not for the drinks but rather to maintain the money and power links.

[librechik]

11. How can he claim to be an efficiaent advocate, when he can't convince

Mary?

[Mend]

14. Maybe he stays and plays because of his children....

who would leave them alone with cruella?

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. I think it's time to cut him loose. He made a decision of the heart which

he can't let go of. I wouldn't trust him with a political campaign knowing that he has pillow talk with Mary Matalin. I mean, how stupid is that?

[xultar]

16. WTF you don't think he was embarrased? HE WAS! Wouldn't you be?

Embarrased to say you shot your friend?

Does that make me a DINO?

I really don't get your post. I thing the son-of-a bitch was embarassed as hell. He's supposed to be such a great hunter but he shot his friend.
That is embarrassing as hell.

WHY would you condem Carville for saying that? Seems to me no Dem could be as pure as any of y'all require.

JESUS!

[William769]

18. Do what I do, consider the source.

I get so friggin mad here sometimes, i think my head is going to explode.

[xultar]

23. The last of us on the row-boat of logic must stick together...

I'll watch out for you if you watch out for me.

I've decided to confront the maddness. Plus...I have time since I'm in bed for oral surgery.

I don't always agree but I don't go crazy with insanity. Reality is still real.

[William769]

35. Always got your back with sanity.

:)

[leftchick]

24. are you insulting me?

why do you bother to reply to this thread if you don't consider me a decent "source"?

[William769]

37. I don't insult, just provide facts.

Anyone with half a brain understands where I am coming from. Democrats differ from Republicans, because we are free thinkers & won't necessarily agree with all things said like they do. If you can't see that, sorry.

[leftchick]

39. anyone with "half a brain" would read all of the responses in this thread

and get a clue as to how Carville's response was detrimental to Democrats. It has nothing to do with "free thinkers" and everything to do with critical thinking skills. And I won't start name calling the ones lacking said skills here.

[Tellurian]

25. Embarrassed? Was he embarrassed when he told

the Senator from Vermont to "Go F**K Himself" while walking in the Senate Chambers?

Get this straight, once and for all-

These sub-humans HAVE NO $HAME!!

[leftchick]

28. Thank You!

I am glad most people on this board have a clue where the neo-freaks are coming from. They do not give a fuck what anyone thinks! Embarrassed??? :rofl: If it was funny... :grr:

[Tellurian]

33. You're entirely, Welcome, l/c..

I tune in once in awhile...hoping to see a change..

Oh, well- sameole, sameole! :toast:

[xultar]

31. I'm missing the link here...let's be for real.

[William769]

38. What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

We all know he's scum, that doesn't mean you should attack a fellow Democrat Icon when he says something that is not of your opinion. He is entitled to it, I give him credit for saying it.

[Tellurian]

45. You're missing the point-

I don't think Carville is scum. I never intimated that!

What I did say was, he's lost his FIRE- aka known as passion!

[Cha]

44. Zing! You have that exactly

right! Anyone who believes dick, fucking sociopath, cheney is "embarassed" needs to beg, borrow, or buy a clue.

[jsamuel]

41. The point isn't that Carville is a bad person, but he isn't an EFFECTIVE

Democratic voice anymore. He might mean well, but most here can see that his statements do more to harm Dems than to help Dems (whether he has good intentions or not).

[joanski0]

19. I used to love James Carville.

But he is now pussy-whipped. Every time he wants to do something that Mary doesn't like, she threatens to divorce him and take the children.

[iconoclastNYC]

27. If you are on TV you've probably sold out years ago.

The only Democrats allowed on Corporate owned mass media are "useful idiots" who do damage to thier own POV by virtue of being untelegenic and annoying to the viewer.

Could you pick someone with a more annoying voice to be the Dem spokesman that Carville? How about KAINE and his evil eyebrow? Donna Brazil? Alan Colmes? Should I go on?

[Tellurian]

32. Ha! And here I thought..

(giving James the benefit of the doubt) he was spending all his spare time
on elocution lessons. I thought, a few of the words he strung together om MTP
were the first intelligible words I've heard from him in a very long time.

Even so- his Stinger has been retired for so long, he's forgotten how, at one time,
his masterful delivery of a one liner resonated with people.

[blm]

30. Couldn't agree with you more - IMO, he jumped on the Plame outing

which he and his wife knew damn well Karl and the WH committed the crime for two years BEFORE an election.

[marions ghost]

51. bingo

they are too close to the Plame outing. Jumped the shark then.

They don't really give a hoot about Cheney shooting Harry. Matalin is only defending her own lousy handling of the incident.

Yeah, poor James. No cred.

[ladjf]

34. I have no faith that Car ville continues to use his considerable

talents on behalf of the American people. I have become suspicious of his motives.

[savemefromdumbya]

36. Very suspicious of Carville

I really don't think he has our interests at heart.

[1620rock]

40. Cheney is NOT embarrassed, he IS an embarrassment. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. Carville was always a voice for Carville and the DLC.

At which job he's done very well for himself and his DLC(R) buddies.

[Tellurian]

46. Right!

When Carville campaigned for Clinton his liabilities were nil...(except
for his own persona.) Not anymore. Carville has a family to worry about now!
He's forced to play within the diabolical parameters of the Bush camp.

Stalag 17- all over again!

[burythehatchet]

43. Those two skanks deserve each other

[AtomicKitten]

47. the VP shooting incident is an impotent issue

It's much ado about nothing. We already know Cheney lies and has disdain for the media. Nothing new here.

I realize there is much to be outraged about, but try to put this crap, incessant as it is, in perspective.

I'd rather the media focus on the ILLEGAL outing of Valerie plame or the ILLEGAL manipulation of intelligence to go to war. You know, something with teeth that just might lead to the collapse of this administration.

[Tellurian]

48. How impotent would it be IF..

The truth came out? The VP had a few too many. Not only
behaving irresponsibly but once again another coverup; lying to the World?

[salin]

49. Hey James... how about he/they were afraid

of how serious the wounds might have been, and rather than waiting due to embarassment, were waiting to hear whether or not the victim was going to make it - in order to determine how to spin it.