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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:23 PM
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Bush Surrenders American Ports to United Arab Emirates.


Last Friday, Secretary of DHS Michael Chertoff and Secretary of the Treasure John Snow ran up the white flag of surrender on 8 ports in the American Homeland. While we are fighting terrorist in Iraq, rather than fighting them here, Bush and his administration has surrendered.

Who would have thunk it? Guess they really didnt want to fight them over here.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:24 PM
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1. After the surrender
the BFEE and Ch*rtoff moved into nearby FEMA trailers.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:26 PM
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2. can't have those filthy Arabs doing anything, right?
everyone knows you can't trust a raghead.

this is really getting tiresome. Is there any link between this company and any terrorist organization? any? If it were a Panamanian company, would you be saying the same thing?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:31 PM
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5. People are learning to say UAE, just to make you happy.
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 07:35 PM by The Backlash Cometh
Why don't you do a check to see why we're so upset. It's not just the falcon hunting with bin Laden, it's not just the money that came to the 9/11 terrorists through their banks. There is also atleast one ex-Dubai staffer that is in hot water for criminal activity. AND we only inspect less than 5% of the goods in these ports.

You know what the rest of the world thought about our country when they found out that the 9/11 terrorists learn to fly planes on our own soil? We deserved what happened because of our own stupidity.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:50 PM
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8. oh my god, there was ONE dubai staffer involved in criminal activity?
curse them all.

please point out to me where this will alter port security in any way. the Department of Homeland Security (snort) is in charge of scanning incoming cargo, not the facility operator. So talk to them about security, not the Port operator. Completely different people. But you know all about how ports operate, right?

And Dubai is a banking haven of the middle east, kind of like Switzerland, most of the money in the region flows through Dubai, something like 75% of it. Kinda like Switzerland in Europe. In fact, much of the money came through, wait for it, Switzerland. And into CreditSuisseFirstBoston. Oh my god, the Swiss are out to get us! They're gonna kill us with bobsleighs! run for your life! but you know all about the international banking system, don't you?

oh, and the falcon party? maybe it's because we didn't want to certainly kill a member of the royal family of an ally to maybe kill a terrorist, even one as bad as Bin Laden. People take offense to killing their cousins, you know, you'd better have a damn good reason to do so.

I don't remember any of this when the British company took over, and there are certainly as many criminals in the UK as in the UAE.

the nativism is getting old. Sure, complain that a foreign owned company controls some ports, if you want, but complain when it's ANY foriegn company, not simply one from the Middle East.

Do you know anything about the UAE? did you know, for instance, that 66% of college students in the country are women? that 15% of the professional workforce is female, higher than any other state in the region, save Israel? that it is one of two Arab states with universal sufferage, including Women, Christians and Jews? (sure, there is only a double digit Jewish population, but it exists, and in represented in the government?) (yes, the first elections are this year, but it's a start) and that it is the only State on the peninsula that has a woman in a cabinet position?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:57 PM
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12. At one time, there was only one indicted Bush staffer. I believe,
as you believe, that this is the tip of the iceberg. The same could be the case in the Dubai matter. It's ripe for abuse.

And anyone who is partying with bin Laden, is no friend of ours. I guess you're what we use to call, a bleeding heart. We should have blown up that party if bin Laden was there, and if a member of the royalty was with him, too bad. They shouldn't have had anything to do with him, if they were truly our ally.

Frankly, I didn't know that ANY foreign country owned our ports, not even the british. Why we would think the british wouldn't leech us any less than anybody else shows the favoritism to anglos.

So if you want to hear that we shouldn't give up our ports to any other country, I'm fine with that.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 08:04 PM
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14. well, first off
the don't "own" the ports, they operate them under contract. something like 20% of the public water utilities in the US are operated by foreign companies as well. using American workers. big deal.

and I'm what I like to call a realist. we had 'intelligence' that Bin Laden was there. And I support efforts to kill him, but I think we should be damn sure that we know, not think, he is there before killing other people. Remember the bombings in Pakistan last month? 32 children killed based on faulty intelligence. Oh well, they shouldn't have been 'partying' with terrorists. Even though the terrorists weren't actually there at the end of the day. ooops. Intelligence can be faulty, I hear, or have we found chemical weapons in Baghdad I didn't hear about?

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 08:15 PM
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18. The country has a strong Al Qaeda presence and they will be
able to ship in cargo through ports that only get a 5% inspection rate. Own, operate, it's just linguistics. The factors are there for disaster.

You want to know what I thought was wrong about that falcon hunting trip? When I first heard about it years ago, I thought that the missile strike was called off because there was NO bin Laden in the hunting trip. Just royalty from the UAE. It's only NOW THAT THEY'RE TELLING US THAT HE WAS THEIR GUEST!!!! Why did our intelligence agency hide that from us until now? Maybe if they had said something years ago, Bush wouldn't have been able to slip this one through.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 08:19 PM
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19. no they don't
please. Al Qaeda doesn't like the government of the UAE any more than they like the government of Kuwait. UAE has put more AQ people in jail than anyone else.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 08:28 PM
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20. It was just reported on CNN news. What's your source?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 01:48 AM
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22. what source, that AQ doesn't like UAE?
well, I'm going with the fact that UAE has arrested and turned over several senior AQ operatives, including the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

that, and the idea that there are three things AQ hates: Americans, Jews and Women's rights. All are in UAE. It is the most western of all the "arab" states.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:07 AM
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25. Absolute rubbish!
UAE is tougher on terrorist movement that the US!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:46 AM
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27. The proof is in the pudding. They ARE NOT SUCCEEDING!!
If they can't control this crap in their own country, they certainly won't succeed in ours when we can't even focus on who the enemey is. We call them Republicans, but it's really Libertarians taking advantage of the hate and fear of most ignorant white Americans. We are ripe for attack, because WE ARE SO STUPID about letting the desire for a robust economy or bleeding heartism cloud our decisions.
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:33 PM
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6. I don't know if ANY other country should be controlling our ports...
...although, with the way this gang of thugs (Bushco) seem to run things, maybe it's for the better? Eh.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:52 PM
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9. NO foreign country should control our ports.
Be they Arabs, Belgians, or Tongans.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:56 PM
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11. they are the facility operators
that's it. they don't handle inspections (that's the coast guard) they handle loading and offloading, maintenance and various environmental roles. And the people working there are Americans. So it's not that big of a deal.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:59 PM
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13. Exactly. But I feel really ignorant about this whole "deal"
How can this happen? Has it ever been done before? Why now? What are details of this "deal?"
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 08:05 PM
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15. nothing changes in the 'deal' from what's already been going on
the contract continues from the previous operator. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:27 PM
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3. And Kerry said that less than 5% of the goods coming and going
out of this country are inspected through such ports.

I swear we are one fucking stupid country to allow those two idiots in the executive office to do this to us.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:27 PM
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4. Now THAT would make a great billboard!
Remember the billboards that the GOP put up late last year, with photos of Dems and a 'white flag of surrender' because they were supporting Murtha's idea of withdrawing from Iraq?

Why not a few Dem billboards, with photos of Bush and a white flag, with a list of the six ports he has now 'surrendered' to the friends (and bankers) of the 9/11 attackers?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:37 PM
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7. It's pretty obvious - - - they want us to get nuked.
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 07:37 PM by tabasco
First they ruin our best spy operation to stop the spread of nuke technology, now they give our ports to a country linked to 9-11 and other terrorist operations.

You're doin' a heckuva job Chertie! Sorry Baltimore !


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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:54 PM
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10. What a perfect characterization!
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 08:06 PM
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16. Talk about guarding the homeland! Damn.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 08:07 PM
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17. It shows The War on Terror is a sham
Bushco only attacks countries it has no business deals with.

(BTW I don't want them to attack anyone, but their whole "fight them over there"/us vs. them logic is now totally blown out of the water).
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:26 PM
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21. this company
Is owned by the government. It's not a private company.

So saying this has anything to do with "arabs" is incorrect.

This is a country who doesn't support Israel's right to exist, but did support the Taliban.

This has nothing to do with the war on terror.

I'm glad that they may help us occasionally catch a few terrorists. So send them a few bucks, or
some airplane parts.

Don't let them, or any country have anything to do with the infrastructure of the United States.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 01:51 AM
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23. on the other hand, it does recognize Cuba
unlike the US. but oh well. And it does have ties to Israel, if not official recognition (has Israel recognized UAE?)
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:33 AM
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24. UAE has a history of acting as the transfer point for WMD...
component shipments to Iran and other nations we consider hostile. This fact alone should be enough to set off red flags. We certainly don't need to fear all arabs, but if the right sponsor came along, Dubai seems to have a history of either being incompetent, looking the other way, or actually enabling the transfer. Sort of sounds like the government's handling of 9/11 doesn't it?

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:L35l8PlBm9UJ:www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/dubai/transshipment-milestones.html+The+Dubai+Ports+Authority&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=20



1987: Iranian officials reportedly meet associates of Abdul Qadeer (A.Q.) Khan, a Pakistani citizen, in Dubai. Iran is reportedly offered a phased supply of centrifuge drawings, as many as 2,000 centrifuges and auxiliary items, including casting equipment for manufacturing the bomb core.

<snip>

March 1989: A firm owned by the Indian government reportedly ships 60 tons of thionyl chloride, which can be used to manufacture mustard gas and nerve agents, to Iran via Dubai.

<snip>

1990: A Greek intermediary claiming to represent A.Q. Khan offers Iraq an atomic bomb design, promising that any required materials could be procured from Western countries and shipped via Dubai.

<snip>

1994 - 1995: Bukary Syed Abu (B.S.A.) Tahir, a Sri Lankan based in Dubai, allegedly organizes the transshipment of two containers of centrifuge components from Dubai to Iran, on behalf of A.Q. Khan, for $3 million.

MUCH MORE
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:21 AM
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26. White-flag republinazis.
Why am I not surprised that the nazi party has showed once again that they're traitors to America, along w/their offshoring of American jobs.


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