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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:28 PM
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"Civilian Inmate Labor Program" - Do I have your attention yet?
Take a moment to familiarize yourself with what the US Government has planned for us:
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

It's a US Army PDF titled "Civilian Inmate Labor Program". YOU are a CIVILIAN. Smell the coffee.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:33 PM
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1. While I'm parked firmly in the paranoid camp...
I've read this thing pretty carefully before and I believe what they mean by "civilian inmate" is the regular, non-military prison population. This program is supposed use inmates of regular prisons to do work on military installations.

What makes me worried are these "new programs" Halliburton is building camps for...
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:47 PM
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6. Agreed. But why
establish labor "camps" on military instillations which are policed by military personnel? Why take these people out of the established labor programs in prisons supervised by department of corrections?

This scares me on two levels, apart from the fact that Helliburton is building large scale prison complexes. 1. We've seen how the military treats prisoners, as of late. 2. I see this precedent taking us down the slippery slope to Chinese (and Nazi) style concentration/labor camps where civilians (including many political prisoners) are forced to do free labor for companies and the government.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:38 PM
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12. I agree with your concerns...
I think they want the cheap labor they can get from prisoners -- a terrible idea.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:48 PM
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7. Like Pete Townsend Said
on Quadrophenia.

"A paranoic is someone who has a pretty good idea what it is really going on"
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:34 PM
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2. not a civilian inmate though. I didn't believe it was Army until
I saw that flowchart.

That atrocity could only have been done by a military mind.

:rofl:

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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:50 PM
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8. In the military we
say; "a donkey is a horse designed by committee".

Someone probably spent a lot of time on the flowchart.

Death by Powerpoint
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:37 PM
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3. aka "Civilian Slave Labor Camps".........
our government is preparing for the collapse of America.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:39 PM
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4. Could you explain that position? I'll admit I think things are going to
get bad, and I think they are going to come after dissidents.. Why do you feel this way? What leads you to believe this is true??
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:44 PM
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13. The drastic reduction in our manufacturing base, astonomical....
health care costs, elimination of pensions, lower wages, significant increases in the cost of everyday necessities, humongous secured and unsecured personal debt and record setting and ever increasing Federal and Trade Deficits are just a few of the more outstanding reasons we are headed for a collapse. We have also placed ourselves in a very bad situation should a world war breakout. The basic components of almost everything are no logger made in this country. America is a much different place today then it was during the last depression. People used to work together for the common cause and common good during hard times. Today it is clearly every man and woman for themselves. The selfness population will be difficult to control during an economic collapse, prolonged world war or national man made or natural disaster. Further, our democracy just isn't what it used to be and political control of everything in our lives has made people exercising their right to free speech and expression the equivalent of terrorists or communists by the NEOCON right. Rational thinking and planning has been replaced by extreme partisan politics and corporate and political corruption unlike we have ever known. The people running the show are not sane but consumed by their own power, wealth, arrogance and sense of privilege to do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whoever they want without any repercussions or accountability. Internment, dissident and the like camps will be used to provide a no cost labor force to support the political regime in power and to provide control through fear of the population.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:47 PM
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16. They can refuse...............
It is Voluntary.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:46 PM
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5. This applies only to Federal Inmates.
It's appears to be an extension of the existing, In-House Inmate Worker Programs they already have had in place. They will just provide services as Inmate Worker on a military base. Labor tasks are no doubt needed with the increased demands on our Military.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:54 PM
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9. Wrong
Chapter one states federal, state and local facilities and inmates are targeted.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:00 PM
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11. Look again.
Otherwise, State and/or local inmate labor from off-post correction facilities excluded from this program.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:55 PM
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10. Yep
They might as well, they already have Inmates making wiring harnesses for F-16's
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:46 PM
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15. If they don't stay busy....
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 08:48 PM by liberalnurse
all they have left to do is make "hooch", bust sprinkler heads and seek out psyche meds to get a lousy buzz.... This activity program makes sense to me.....These positions are an honor task position for an inmate. They may get extra visits, extra trays and commissary discounts. It demonstrates on a small scale a form of healthy rewards for positive behavior.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:56 AM
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17. You are correct.
The prison over in Sweetwater TX has a program for their inmates. They go to different towns, cleaning up vacant lots, tearing down old house's, painting and cleaning, city and county buildings. I even had them tear out a bunch of offices in my warehouse, ( i rent from the city ) out at the air park. They took the cinder blocks they removed from there and built a very nice set of bath rooms for the Kid-Zone out at the park.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 08:08 PM
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14. Yes, but if you are a "political subversive" (i.e. DU'r) according to
other changes being made, you could then be arrested and become a "Federal Inmate". Then it's off to the Civilian Prison Labor Camp you go.

You better get aquainted with the laws they are writing up and trying to pass. Some laws that have been proposed (and so far shot down) would make a protester considered a "terrorist". This is just one example, read about it here: http://truthout.org/docs_03/040503H.shtml

You have to look at this stuff with a wider perspective. You may think "Well this law is just for prisoners - that doesn't apply to me." But what you don't know is that the legislators (under heavy political pressure) are trying to figure out how they can make YOU a prisoner. It's not nearly as difficult as you may think, and you are not as safe as you think.
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