Actually Smart Move On Repukes on Port Deal. Bush will veto

[Jon8503]

the bill and Frist & republicans introduce a bill to try and stop the deal. In the end they all get what they want. Frist and them will say they tried to stop it with the democrats and Bush goes home to Crawford in 2008.

[medeak]

1. freepers are spinning ;-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582953/posts

here's a sampling:
He won't veto a ham sandwich, but will veto a deal to let a potential terrorist country watch our ports? Great war on terror this is!

[CJCRANE]

4. Single sentence post:"We should trust Bush. He knows what he's doing."

Does this replace "In God We Trust"?

[MissMarple]

8. No, not Bush. Allah, we should trust in Allah.

And Mohamed, they only want the best for us. ;)

[JuniperLea]

9. No, that would be redundant

:sarcasm:

[medeak]

11. "1,000 of his decisions" LOL

"Join the crowd. I have been confused by about 1,000 of his decisions lately."

this is entertaining as creepy as it is to go to freeperland....oh..the new rules..we aren't supposed to mention them any more?

[CJCRANE]

2. More likely

Bush goes home to Dubai in 2008 and hangs out with Michael Jackson.

[kenny blankenship]

12. I heard Jacko is looking for a new chimp--possibly related?

[underpants]

3. and American company A runs it and subcontracts out to the UAE

and everyone is happy again.

BTW- AMerican Company A is probably Carlyle maybe Halliburton.

[HereSince1628]

5. I'm not sure. The scary Post-911 world BushCo has been selling

has much of the nation, including the DLC, convinced we need to be strong on security.

I don't think even the R's are ready to try to sell opportunities for globalization of the investments of Arabs over American security.

[MADem]

6. No, because if they mean it, they can OVERRIDE THAT VETO

This is one of those rare issues that crosses the aisle. They can't count on the old strawman, or having the Dems do one of their symbolic votes in opposition. No one on our side of the aisle wants this to go through, and if the GOP caves, that will affect even those up for reelection who oppose the measure...it just won't be enough.

The WH is up to their eyeballs in this deal:

WASHINGTON - The Dubai firm that won Bush administration backing to run six U.S. ports has at least two ties to the White House.

One is Treasury Secretary John Snow, whose agency heads the federal panel that signed off on the $6.8 billion sale of an English company to government-owned Dubai Ports World - giving it control of Manhattan's cruise ship terminal and Newark's container port.

Snow was chairman of the CSX rail firm that sold its own international port operations to DP World for $1.15 billion in 2004, the year after Snow left for President Bush's cabinet.

The other connection is David Sanborn, who runs DP World's European and Latin American operations and was tapped by Bush last month to head the U.S. Maritime Administration. http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/393375p-333478c.html

You can smell the "cui bono" a mile away!!!!!

[Mr.Green93]

7. What stories are they using this 'issue'

to distract our attention from?

[PATRICK]

10. More importantly

the deal will go through. They back down on nothing, just go a little more invisible for an insulting little bit of time. The veto is not crafted to help the GOP but again to beat down the Congress as they have been beaten down on FISA. Do you think the GOP has the prerequisites to call any bluff? they are in it as deep as anyone and Bush is dragging them down- with or without the veto threat.

The bald purpose of the veto is to smack down the puppies, Bush's sole line of defense against accountability. It is credible considering their nature and record. The MSM tools also whine like puppies but Bush knows where the true power lies.

They expect to repair and discipline enough in the aftermath of the "war support logic" in the coming Iranian catastrophe to complete the mass cheating strategy. The GOP members who expect to win face the Scylla and Charybdis of REAL public outrage versus the money and fraud and spin that can trump democracy. For any decent human being that would not be a dilemma but even some Dems if faced with such a choice would agonize. And for many, jail time and disgrace are also in the cards no matter how it turns out.

Yes, in a disdainful, mocking way(also to assert power) the veto might in a twisted way help the big, brave, beleaguered GOP Congressmen, but that is a table scrap of the main theme.

Bald assertion of presidential power that the minions cannot by their nature check, probably not even symbolically. And the whole thing unravels because Bush does not intend to lose that veto fight. Without intending to lose the dogs on Congress bark a bit then whimper and cringe away.

But things are so terrible, so insane, that the craziest thing of all is trying to work any sense of planning or logic into the exposed horrors.

[MADem]

13. All they need is a two thirds majority in both the House and Senate

and Chimpy's little port plan is screwed, and his veto is OVERRIDDEN. Now, if the GOP can't muster that up, with the help of the Dems, then they are clearly a party that does not give a shit about national security, and they are part of the crony problem. It is hardly an accident that two of the guys having oversight over this transfer HAVE CONNECTIONS TO THE COMPANY, and that point must be pounded home, again and again. CULTURE OF CORRUPTION!

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/393375p-333478c.html

[Javaman]

14. Moron* is a coward and vetoing something means he has to be

answerable to someone for something.

He won't veto.

I believe this is smoke and mirrors.

the repukes knew this would cause an outcry. The members up for reelection will suddenly look tough to moron* who is failing in the poles and makes the dems look like they are playing follow the leader again.

It's another desperate diversion from all the failures we have had to endure by the asshole*.

[Jon8503]

15. You got it. There are Repukes not running for reelection and you

know what they will do. Frist & Hastert & the others running will do the tough guy image. Look I stood up to the President.

These guys never make a move without a plan or knowing where they are going with it.

They don't do political sucide.

Don't know why they want to do this so bad but smell money somewhere. They would sell their own mothers for money.

[PATRICK]

16. The political capital

being expended here is the "veto threat". Bush CAN veto it without being much worse off than he is now and then the GOP has to muster the follow through to override or sink humbly in this phase two. Knowing that, the Bush team figures they will desperately look for a way to vent and back down now rather than extend something they are just not equipped to do. It IS a crony GOP Congress, hands really slimed with sweaty money and fear of going down with those daring old cons.

It is meant to be a slap down. Of course, those, like Frist desiring to show some moves toward 2008 can't afford to look that bad, but they are the self chosen victims of another Bush overreach. Not one of these can get their words straight enough no matter how much outrage or public groundswells or electoral dynamite is poured into their bought brains. That is what Bush knows.

Does Bush sound like he is sweating out a veto bluff? On the contrary, he just made the issue a mountain for the GOP climb if it tries to force him back. Not in a year when he is taking them to another insanely
illegal and bloody war, baby!

Of course it could backfire, but if we can't even get our Dems to face down this monster with the directness and energy required how can anyone foresee anything other than some politically posturing impotence on the part of the puissant GOP majority? it is a very safe gambit. And then they must do it all over again to override or look WORSE than they would in spinning off the debate into actionless smoke, sound and fury. First of course, made to look the fool is fine with the Bushistas who routinely humiliate all non-circle contenders for the crown.

As for the news people who blow smoke then go back to hunting for missing blonds and the suckered American public, Bush could care even less. He has to act like he is strong to keep his own team in line or he will be in true trouble of his own making. It would be like asking him to apologize or back down on anything. can't. His fear has been compounded into disastrous certainty. In the balance of terror, Bush must be on the side of terror.