The Mosque that just blew up in Iraq - do you believe in it?

[mogster]

Remember these guys from last September?









BAGHDAD, Sept. 19 (Xinhuanet) -- Iraqi police detained two British soldiers in civilian clothes in the southern city Basra for firing on a police station on Monday, police said.

"Two persons wearing Arab uniforms opened fire at a police station in Basra. A police patrol followed the attackers and captured them to discover they were two British soldiers," an Interior Ministry source told Xinhua.

The two soldiers were using a civilian car packed with explosives, the source said.

He added that the two were being interrogated in the police headquarters of Basra.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-09/19/content_3514065.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091900572_pf.html

From the WP:
"Iraqi security officials on Monday variously accused the two Britons they detained of shooting at Iraqi forces or trying to plant explosives. Photographs of the two men in custody showed them in civilian clothes."

Here's the shrine in question, called the Golden Mosque, now utterly destroyed:


Is this what it seems to be? I think it's fair to ask the question - the goal of the Sunni 'insurgents' seems to coincide to well with the goal of Mr. Ledeen and other neoconservative hawks.

From the LBN:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2124083

[Binka]

1. Mr Negrpontes Wrecking Crew At It Again? Naughty Fellows!

[leftchick]

2. The important point is who the Iraqis think did it...

any guesses who they will blame?

[Binka]

3. Since The Iraqis Are In Their Last Throes They Might Not Be Cogent

[TomClash]

4. They'll blame both the Sunnis and the Occupation nt

[mogster]

5. Aye. And it's not only them

Look at this quick 'Muslim Insult Timeline':

2004: Abu Ghraib pics released
2005: Muhammed cartoons released
2006: Muhammed cartoons re-released
2006: Video released of soldiers beating kids
2006: More Abu Ghraib pics released
2006: Mosque blown up

I guess we can add all sort of insults and bad treatment inbetween, so why does all cards seems to be played along a line of increased confrontation?

[leftchick]

7. there is a meaning to the neocons madness

Chaos + Occupation = Profits and Imperialism.

[alphafemale]

8. Well...US. I imagine they blame US. Since even WE are thinking that way.

What must they be thinking?

[CJCRANE]

6. Tin foil hat on:

Distraction from the ports issue? The civil war hots up and suddenly W's War President duties take centre stage? Then another scandal comes along and the ports issue goes down the memory hole?

[PassingThrough]

9. You fail to mention why the Brits were attacking the police station.

They were trying to break out other Brits. BIG difference.

[mogster]

10. That's not true

The Brits on these pictures were the arrested persons, caught in a car packed with explosives and arrested by Iraqi police.
Which is when British tanks attacked the compound and set them free, that part is right.

But why attack Iraqi police to set free two men arrested? Why not apply to the Iraqi authorities to get them released?
That story stinked and so does this story about the Mosque that's blown up.

[PassingThrough]

13. It is true. You gave the links.

[donco6]

14. I think you're confused about the article.

You need to read it again. There was an attack on the jail, yes, but it was AFTER the two British soldiers in the car with explosives were detained. BIG difference.

[PassingThrough]

15. No, its the same event. The first link is how China reported it.

Same event, same day. different spin

[mogster]

16. I think we're talking about two different things here

You're saying:
Two Brits were arrested and then the British troops set them free by attacking the compound the were held in.

I'm saying:
Two Brits were arrested by Iraqi police and then the British troops attacked their allies in the Iraqi police in a very strange manner, and set them free by risking other soldiers lives.

Why those soldiers lives was less important than the lives of the two men arrested is not answered. Here's a pic - it wasn't a Sunday stroll:


Why the men detained couldn't be released by contacting the Iraqi police and requesting the release in a peaceful manner that coincide with the official picture we have of British Auth. and Iraqi police being allies is not answered.

Why those men had explosives in their car and was dressed as Arabs is not answered.

[fujiyama]

11. Of course

why not also ignore the fact that Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq have deep running historical conflicts. After all, the neocons did EXACTLY THAT when they invaded Iraq. Hell, Bush didn't even know there were different ethnic groups there.

Maybe it was black ops. I can't dismiss such theories out of hand. I don't really know, but many here seem to attribute God like powers to the Bush admin/PNAC/CIA...That gets awfully tiresome.

[greenisin]

12. Bush controls the Iraqi police...

and one report I just read said it was five or six police officers that blew-up. So, a group Bush controls did blow it up. Nice work again Bush. You really know how to make people hate you.

[Deja Q]

17. Bud Bundy enlisted?!

(the one on the left :rofl: )

[insane_cratic_gal]

18. So we are trying to turn Arab opinion

In favor of us.. by posing as Iraq military or terrorists?

I'm not surprised


I'm pretty sure a Muslim wouldn't target a Mosque.