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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:42 AM
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Secret compartments in Containers from a WJ caller...
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 09:43 AM by Viva_La_Revolution
Guy called in and said he makes containers for a living, says the public doesn't know that there are secret compartments built in.

I inspected and loaded containers for about 3 years recently, and I've never seen one that had any secret space. They are basically tin boxes on a chassis.

I think this guy is smoking something.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:45 AM
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1. Outside measurement = inside measurement ? How hard is that?
Simple way to eliminate "secret" compartments.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:59 AM
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4. you don't even need to do that...
one sheet of tin. you tap the side with a forklift and it rips like a pop can.

To be fair, I've only seen a few refrigerated ones, I suppose there 'might' be a little space in one of those that could be used.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:45 AM
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2. What is that smell? Oh yeah: bullshit.
You're right. Containers are just 20' or 40' long corrugated metal boxes.

I've been in freight transportation for 20 years, and I've seen a few.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:51 AM
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3. I think this guy has been talking into his shoe phone one to many times.nt
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FreedRadical Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:03 AM
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5. The tin box doesn't need a secret compartment
if no one is checking it:smoke:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:08 AM
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8. good one!
Morning D! :)
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:04 AM
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6. They guy also said something about 'Arabs' and was cut off - the way
they do when they recognize a disruptor - a la the Stern caller.

Anyway, the guy seemed to be implying something negative about Arabs.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:07 AM
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7. Isn't it possible to have concealed spaces?
I'm surely no expert on shipping containers, but don't some of these have plywood walls inside?

If you put a layer of plywood on a corrugated surface, you wind up with a whole bunch of concealed space in the form of vertical columns (the height of the container), several inches wide, and a couple inches deep. Maybe not the ideal place to try to stuff a suitcase bomb into, but still....?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:10 AM
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10. I've seen trailers with wood on the sides, because they are loaded
and unloaded far more often. The containers they want to be as light as possible, I haven't seen one re-enforced like that.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:14 AM
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13. Thanks! n/t
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:12 AM
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12. Completely OT..
Edited on Wed Feb-22-06 10:13 AM by converted_democrat
But have you noticed that if you stare at the fist in the middle of that graphic you have, it appears that the fist is growing.. That's cool.. I mean, I realize it's an optical illusion, but it's cool to look at..
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:16 AM
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15. Keep staring at it...
......you are getting very angry.........your mission is becoming clear.......you will do as I suggest........
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:10 AM
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9. Don't you know...
...them Muslims can flatten themselves and their bombs and stuff to the thinness of a sheet of paper. Then they stick themselves to the ceiling of the container with paper glue.

We're living in Bizzaro World. I've heard theories less zany. Why bother with secret compartments when you've got special deals with the Bush family and control of the ports of entry and no government oversight?
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:12 AM
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11. Let the rumor fly................
more and more wackos will call their reps about the port deal. Maybe this time the end justifies the means.

zalinda

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:15 AM
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14. Dumbest statement of the day award goes to that guy
If people wanted to ship things in secret, they would ship them seperate.

If container companies were using storage space to make secret compartments, shipping companies would buy from someone else.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:18 AM
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16. You only need one box of 1000 in that container to have the drugs in it.
Or the bomb.

This is why we need to nationalize ports and spend billions on x-rays and more surprise inspections and better data mining operations on the companies that use the ports.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:22 AM
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17. I've seen pictures of a container built with about a 12" false rear wall
It was loaded with Hashish.

(And I was thinking; "Damn. What a waste!")
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:24 AM
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18. Only about 4% of those containers get inspected.
How difficult would it be to bribe someone so they inspect only a certain section of the cargo, and ignore the rest?
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 10:29 AM
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19. Could you hear a taped rerun of "24" in the background?
Seriously, if the guy's legit, is the best course of whistleblowing a call to Washington Journal?
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