Interesting! Dobbs has become a POPULIST! What's Up..with him?

[KoKo]

Last night I cautioned DU'ers to take his show "with a grain of salt" meaning that why "The BIG TURNAROUND on the Bushie he used to love."

Tonight I tuned in again...and he had so much info it was like a "Recap of DU" where we "unwashed, smelly folks the Media didn't want to listen to" SUDDENLY WERE VINDICATED.. Dobbs had so much on this show it Blew My Mind Out!

Still...I wonder...who pulled the plug on CNN? That they would "attempt" to tell the TRUTH ..to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

I remain skeptical as I'm sure many here do.....BUT IT WAS SOOOOOOOOOO GOOD!

He trashed Bush, Chertoff and showed the connections with Treasuries Snow to the whole Enchilada...... I felt I was on DU...waiting for the Mods to Lock ME for :tinfoilhat:

It was GREAT! :D

[Armstead]

1. He's been doing this for a few years

Something happened to him to change him from a Pro-Corporate Cheerleader into a striong critic of corporate policies and it's affect on the middle class.

He's not a reliable ally, because he often veers to the right wing too.

But overall, I'll give him the benefit of the dount that he actually woke up and saw the destriuctive side of the Corporate Oligarchs he was rah-rahing in the 90's.

[katsy]

5. I've watched him for years...

He does not like outsourcing. He believes in a strong middle class. He hates government waste... is pro-robust business, but thrashes corporate thievery & thieves.

He has consistently thrashed this government.

Very few people agree with others completely on every single issue but they respect a difference of opinion. Lou has my respect even if I don't agree with him on every issue. He's not a freeper or fundie or neocon.

[TahitiNut]

12. I agree with your perspective.

I regard Lou as an "Eisenhower Republican" ... and that's to the left of quite a few elected Democrats (e.g. Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman) these days.

[katsy]

26. That's right...

an Eisenhower Republican. That's back when we had Statesmen for politicians... not the whores that occupy congress now.

[nonconformist]

35. I agree with your take as well. nt

[KoKo]

7. Thanks, Armstead....I find it hard to trust him...but am loving his NEW

VIEW...and I realize that I way to the left of you being a Populist Progressive Dem.....so I might be harder on NAFTA and the rest than you.

So...I always remember that you were out here in the early days of DU trying to "reform the media" so if we can "MEET" on a few issues we have a NEW PARTY about to be formed. You think? :shrug: Meeting of minds?

[KoKo]

8. BUT ! we need to QUESTION...WHY? the BIG Turnaround?

That's why while I LOVE what Lou is doing...his ratings are not great...SO WHY give Lou EVERYTHING we on DU have been TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS?

All those years he pumped the Chimp....begs the question about why it only took the "Cheney Shoot Out" to turn Dobbs in our favor?

:shrug:

[Armstead]

9. I'm a raging looney leftist when it comes to economic issues

Just to set the record straight, when it comes to economic issues I'm about as left as you can get without being a socialist.

I've been ragging about NAFTA and the whole WTO Gloibalization scam since at least the mid 90's. Anbd I've been ragging about the Corporate Oligarchy taking over this country (and the world) since the 70's.

I call myself a moderate though, because those positions would have been considered moderate mainstream liberalism in saner times.

[Armstead]

10. P.S. since we just cross posted re: Dobbs

He's been this way for at least three years.

He took a few years off in the late 90's and returned a few years ago. He steadily moved to a mopre populist stance since then.

I think he simply saw the excesses and their effects, and started taking a stand against them.

[TahitiNut]

13. "a few years off " ... he was cancelled.

As a condition of coming back to CNN (by popular demand), he requested and got editorial control.

[Armstead]

15. I thought it was because he wanted to make Big Bucks in the Dot com boom

Maybe that was the cover story for his firing...

In any case, despite his faults, I much prefer the present populist Dobbs to the Corporate Cherrleader of the 90's.

[KoKo]

21. Yes and Yes........

both are true...Lou left because of his "dot com" it was about "space exploration or something" and he came back to CNN after that.

Lou (for all his faults as far as I'm concerned would SEEM to CARE about how terrible the Bushies TRASHING OF SCIENCE ..perferring his "Sound Science Fundie Christian View") over accepted through Decades "Peer Review" of Science...

We need to have a "Revenge of the Scientists" view out there...if this is where Lou's going...then GOOD FOR HIM!

[KoKo]

17. It's incredible....Dobbs actually mentioned the "Carlyle Group" and it was

a "segment" not just a "name in passing."

I almost fell on the floor. I've watched C-Span callers mention "Carlyle Group/Bushies" and seen them "cut off," and the story dies.

I loved that Dobbs mentioned that....got it OUT THERE IN THE AIR!

But..as I said...I still don't trust Dobbs even though I applaud him for SPEAKING OUT!

[madmunchie]

28. The ports are so Dobbs story

outsourcing, national security and borders. He is having a field day with this.

[liberaliraqvet26]

2. People Can Change....

I was at one time a registered republican. It took a tour in Iraq to change my opinions.

[Justpat]

6. I'm glad you made it back and that you are here at DU. n/t

[WinkyDink]

3. Now he's taking on China! Hee!

I might have to start listening to him!

[AndyA]

4. I love Lou Dobbs and Jack Cafferty!

I've been cautious about Lou Dobbs, but I'm beginning to really appreciate him. I guess we'll see what he's made of when elections roll around.

And Jack Cafferty...he's on fire! It's refreshing to hear the whole story on CNN, for a change! I think if they keep this up, they'll find their ratings improving.

They still need to do something about the AWFUL O'Briens in the morning, and hiring J.C. Watts - that was a BAD move!

[Geek_Girl]

11. Lou Dobbs is about the only thing I can stomach on CNN

I believe Lou is an old school conservative not a neo-con. I just wish they'd take back their party.

[lovuian]

34. Lou has been on this Immigration Outsourcing and selling

of America ever since Bush has been in office...

Love him!!!

[Cocoa]

14. this is not a turnaround for Dobbs

this is exactly in keeping with his previous criticisms of Bush, coming from approximately the same direction as Pat Buchanan's criticisms.

[Andromeda]

16. Dobbs has been an outspoken critic of the Bush admin....

He is a true conservative instead of a faux conservative like Bush. True conservatives don't like Bush's policies because outsourcing takes jobs away from American workers.

Workers have seen their salaries, health care and other benefits shrink or disappear altogether. Why should companies provide benefits when they can send the jobs overseas to do the same work for a lot less.

Faux conservatives will sell anything for a quick buck without any thought of how it will affect the American economy.

[w8liftinglady]

18. Maybe because so many DUers have emailed Dobbs

I firmly believe that he and cafferty both come to DU.

[BuyingThyme]

19. He had a bad experience with a monkey at the San Diego Zoo.

[upi402]

20. He was the lone source for labor issues

He would actually report corporate abuses as ABUSES and then take the next step - the corporate crooks are UNAMERICAN.

And this was back when I watched TV news. Did he have a fling with W?

[KoKo]

22. But! if it comes down to the "nitty gritty" would Lou support Labor?

Would he support the rights of "workers" being either Blue Collar or White Collar to get a "Living Wage?" And, how would Lou judge what a "fair Living Wage" is?

What would he base it on? If he's a "Libertarian" which is the way I've seen him described...would he want "wages to be calibrated to NEED?"

Libertarians aren't always "pro-worker."

[Disturbed]

24. Lou Dobbs seems to be a Paleo Conservative.

He is registered as an Independent. Most actual Conservative loath the Neo Fascist Regime of Darth Cheney.

[Telly Savalas]

27. It doesn't mean the snake oil they're peddling is any better.

[Telly Savalas]

25. Absolutely not.

He'd be talking about a living wage, universal healthcare, and a wide array of other labor issues if he was truly an advocate for the American worker.

Instead he prefers to scapegoat undocumented workers.

[KoKo]

29. Sadly ...I think that's Lou's "bottom line." STILL he's been Great for 2

Nights getting info out that we DU'ers have been cataloging for five years...so I guess he's finding "Our Views" useful...and FOR THAT..I give him GREAT CREDIT...given the Media Whore Stenographers that are out there these days.

Guess we've gotta take what we can get...:shrug: COMPROMISE! isn't that what our Politicians always told us? At least that was what I heard from my "Political Science Classes" many....years ago...when we were "young and naive." :-(

[Telly Savalas]

31. It's a comprise where we're giving up way too much.

What critiques Dobbs has of the White House are predicated on xenophobic attitudes that support a right-wing agenda. It may not be the same right-wing agenda as that of Dick Cheney, but it's still an obstacle to progressivism.

And rest assured that when there's a Democratic in the White House in 2009, Dobbs will be five times more critical of him.

(Forgive the masculine pronoun, but I'm not a fan of Senator Clinton and I don't think Senator Boxer is "electable" despite arguably being the most qualified person for the job.)

[upi402]

30. I can't read his mind but I do see him report labor issues. Only him.

Hard to say what he would do if he had power. I sure don't know. But I doubt he will be in a position to do anything beyond a possible influence on NASA.

[RB TexLa]

23. I thought it was still just a daily jihad against hispanics and free trade

[applegrove]

32. I've thought he was populist for years.

[buzzard]

33. That is my take as well he has always believed in a strong middle class.n/

[MoonRiver]

36. I've been surprised about him and his program for years now.

And frankly I like him. Sure he doesn't go far enough, ala Dennis Kucinich, but heck, he was out there on outsourcing before any other MSM pundit dared touch the issue. One of his mantras is "the assault on the (American) middle class". Over and over again I've watched him take corporate moguls to the cleaner live on t.v. I'm sure the *ies, as well as their corrupt corporate, American and Arab, pals, have been trying to muzzle Lou for a long time now. But somehow he keeps getting away with it!
Here's to Lou :toast: