We are entering a VERY dangerous period

[debbierlus]

Bush & his band of thugs have been able to perpetrate their mass crimes and fraud on America due to a indifferent and ignorant public. Not all by a long shot, but enough so that Bush was able to operate largely unchecked by public outrage.

But, the tide is turning. The fools on the right that deluded themselves into thinking Bush was some kind of protector (excuse me while I snort indignantly) are now confronting their betrayal by their big macho (HA!) cowboy. Now, Iraq is a civil war area with no end in sight and Bush is selling our ports to the UAE. Republican congress people are scampering to protect themselves from the fall out, and Bush stands exposed for the first time to many of these INCREDIBLY slow people.

Approval at 36%.

Yet, Ms. Frankensteinwoman Rice is reassuring the UAE that the deal will INDEED go through. The White House is scrambling to put a positive spin on the deal. They don't get this is the end game, YET. They have been able to torture, lie, steal, murder, and spy illegally on the American people. I still don't think they see this as the straw that is snapping the camel's back in two. But, when they realize that the public and a subserviant Congress will no longer tolerate their recklessness and betrayal - WATCH OUT.

What will they do to stomp out dissent? What will they do to quiet Americans' or distract them so severely that the port deal will be but faint memory in more extreme times? What will they do to save themselves & take permanent power?

All I know is this - these people are lunatics. Literally. I would not put ANYTHING past them at a time when they are backed in a corner.

[murray hill farm]

1. Yes, it is a scary time for America

Way beyond what i ever thought i would see in my lifetime.

[debbierlus]

3. I NEVER dreamed this would happen in my lifetime.

But, I am sure that this the way everyone feels who lives to see times like these!

[Skittles]

28. no, I saw this coming with the installation on this piece of shit

to the White House although I have to say, the sickening lack of response to Katrina, then and now, really did stun me

[jaysunb]

2. Amen !

n/t

[Call me Deacon Blues]

4. It may be time to make a visit to Wal-Mart & join the NRA

Just sayin' O8)

[ClayZ]

9. Penn and Teller must see!

http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=gun

[Radio_Lady]

19. Great clips! I don't get Showtime, but really loved these bits!

Thanks for posting.

[chalky]

25. Works when times are good. But when the going gets tough, the

tough lose their minds. And now we have this:
....police say the current rise in homicides has been set off by something more bewildering: petty disputes that hardly seem the stuff of fistfights, much less gunfire or stabbings.

Suspects tell police they killed someone who "disrespected" them or a family member, or someone who was "mean-mugging" them, which police loosely translate as giving a dirty look. And more weapons are on the streets, giving people a way to act on their anger.



eta: aw, hell. link's acting up. go here for more: http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060212/NEWS/602120391/1039

[brokensymmetry]

5. Scary indeed.

Tyranny's root is, I think, deeper than we know. Today, it flowers; I fear the fruit it will soon bear.

[riderinthestorm]

6. I've thought this at least 5 times before in the past 5 years

Yet this Admin continues to pull the rabbit out of it's ass.

Iraq, wiretapping, nominating Alito, the Plame affair, the election fraud....

When all is said and done, our elected representatives cave.

They don't oppose or stand firm.

I don't hold out ANY hope that this will be different. I fervently wish it were different, but frankly I think we are screwed. Nobody seems to be impassioned but the 80k members of DU. And we don't outweigh the rest of the brainwashed masses....

[femrap]

20. Someone called in to Ed Schultz today and said this

'port deal' has Rove's name all over it. Make W (after all he can't run for re-election) the bad guy and let the repug Congress save the day and save the ports.

But it doesn't seem to be playing out like that...some pugs are still kissing w's ass as is the Gov. of MD.

Maybe Rove is in the hospital with kidney stones again....just like he was when Katrina hit!

[garybeck]

21. well stated. but we have one thing. HOPE.

never give up hope.

and never stop fighting for what is right.

[Nothing Without Hope]

35. Yes. That's exactly why I chose my username. Once you give up hope,

you have nothing. If you keep hope and keep fighting, something better can come. That's the only way.

[shanti]

31. "When all is said and done, our elected representatives cave."

kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? what have they been telling our reps?

[1monster]

47. The old J. Edgar trick is in progress here, I'm sure...

At least four presidents passionately wanted to fire J. Edgar Hoover, but couldn't. J. Edgar held all the cards. Those little wire tap jobs he did on a regular basis reaped the dividends of blackmail material. "You wanna fire me? Go ahead. I'll just release of the information and tapes I have on this little pecadillo of your...."

Just update that a little. Replace J. Edgar with Bush/Cheney/Rove/etc. and the presidents with Senators, Representatives, investigative news reporters, etc. "You wanna oppose me on this? Go ahead.........

[cspanlovr]

51. Yes, its blackmail

I've thought this for so long. Cheney came in as the elder statesman, out of government and in private business, to "advise" Jr. on his pick for VP. After getting every tidbit of info on every prominent repub. in govt. or private business, he finally chose himself. People who want to join a presidential ticket have to tell EVERYTHING. Not just about themselves, but wife (wives), children, siblings, parents, friends, and probably pets. God forbid something might come out in the press to sink the whole ticket. I wouldn't put it past them for one minute to stongarm members of congress with threats of blackmail.

[drm604]

53. I don't know. I really think it may be different this time.

Think about the reasons that a lot of people support Bush. Fear and xenophobia are the two big ones. This administration has worked hard to inflame those emotions. The problem for them this time is that those things are working against Bush instead of for him.

Another reason people have supported him is for his stubbornness (they would call it something like "firmness" or "iron will"). The problem is that this time he's being firm and unwavering about something they don't like; something they really really dont' like.

The things that have worked for him in the past are suddenly working against him. Like I said, I really think it may be different this time.

[IDemo]

7. What will they do to quiet Americans' or distract them?

They don't need to do anything but wait and watch while the current news-cycle expires. The attention span of the American public is measured in nanoseconds these days, unless a Nancy Grace is able to keep them distracted with Aruba, Aruba, Aruba.....

[niallmac]

8. What will they do when backed into a corner? Can they pull if off

if no one trusts them? I hope not. Scary times.:scared: :scared:

[Eric J in MN]

11. My Prediction: Bush will tell Congress that United Arab Emirates is vital

to our security because they are so cooperative, and Congress will back down and let the deal go through.

[Solomon]

42. Agreed. Congress will fall in line. Where they will fail though is with

Joe SixPack. He ain't gonna get it no matter what the media and congress says. It's much too simple for Joe SixPack to be hoodwinked this time. Bush incited demonization of arabs for six years. You can't undo that overnight by having Limbaugh and Hannity shrill for you.

[geomon666]

10. No no, we're way past just entering a dangerous period.

We're even past the point of no return. I don't know what we're entering now but it's not dangerous, it's murderous. It's not a period, it's a lifetime of corruption that will span generations.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. The unknown factor for Bush:

How far is he willing to take this before the riots begin? You know we won't start them, but once the betrayed right-wing nutters start marching on the White House, we'll probably be locking arms with them before too long.

[dweller]

22. umm... i think i'd rather 'have their back' ... n/t

dp

[juliana24]

50. Good time to buy some baseball bats ! We'll need them!

[MsMagnificent]

13. Their next objective appears to be Iran

I wouldn't be surprised to see an attack within the US attributed to Iran.
They need to keep the populace in fear, but OBL can't be the culprit because then there would be a huge outcry that Bush didn't catch him yet. Saddam is obviously out, and there are so many factions in Iraq, even if people thought one of them COULD reach us over here nobody would know who to go for ...and besides we're in there anyways -- we need no excuse there, now.

So I can't help but think of the burning of the German Reichstag; perpetrated by the Nazi's themselves, blamed on others with the result of the Reichstag Fire Decree which suspended the basic rights and provisions of the THEIR Constitution. It nullified many of the key civil liberties of its citizens. With Nazis in key positions of the German government, the decree was used as the legal basis of imprisonment of anyone considered to be their opponents (which is already in effect in the U.S. under the Patriot Act) and was used to suppress publications not considered "friendly" to the Nazi cause (need I comment?). The decree is considered by historians to be one of the key steps in the establishment of a one-party Nazi state in Germany -- which is the reality of the USA at this time, a One Party State. This completely clinched Hitler's dictatorship, with total martial law established and increased military activity to eventually include invasion of sovereign nations based upon the faulty assumptions of who was behind the Reichstag bombing -- initially, "Communists", they of many countries. We have "Terrorists" of many countries. (Some countrys being more equal than others, of course).


If an attack happens here, it'll be blamed on Iran. That is part of the set-up of this UAE port deal: allowing our battleships to be docked and supplied there. There is only one reason I can see why this is so important: Invading Iran.

And would this UAE deal actually be a LIHOP or MIHOP??


But what about our troop shortage even now, seeing as we're still stuck in Afghanistan and it is unforeseeable when we'll be able to get out of Iraq; as understaffed as we are there already and now with this new Civil War breaking out.

Well, this attack would have to be as offensive and outrageous as 9-11; and the propaganda patois from the misAdministration will 'unfortunately have to reinstitute The Draft... but only short term and temporary' Yeah right. Just like the 2 year National Guard limit. :eyes:

et voila! All the NeoCON's dreams have come true!
And so have all our personal fears.


Sorry, I don't mean to freak out here -- but this country has been so closely following in well-worn fascist footsteps and most 'Murikans have obviously (or deliberately) forgotten relatively recent history... it seems that even those still alive from 'the greatest generation' -- who actually lived through all that -- have forgotten.
Add to the mix our Democratic Party -- who no longer have any moral perspective, no general values, no identity; as they once did. Now it's the DLC and polls and which issues sell best across the spectrum instead of what is RIGHT and NEEDED, and they run on those petty issues only.

So no, I would not be surprised at all 'if Iran attacked the United States'. :sarcasm:
God help us, let these musings please be plumb crazy and wrong wrong wrong

[jillan]

14. Time for another Pearl Harbor moment?

Wouldn't put it past them.

They have to do something to get those ratings up.

I'm afraid. They will stop at nothing.

[Ouabache]

40. well bush is going to INDIA for a whole week soon

according to another thread. you know how things always seem to happen when he is out o' town.

[jmowreader]

18. The UAE deal isn't necessary for the invasion of Iran

While I agree that Bush intends to invade Iran (with what, I have no idea), he doesn't need the UAE ports to provision his warships. Kuwait has ports and we own that country already, Saudi has ports and we own that country...Bush has enough ports in the Gulf to handle warship provisioning already.

I think Bush is pushing the UAE deal because he thinks that somehow he can use it as a wedge to get rid of the Longshoreman's union. I don't know what a stevedore makes, but I know it's a hell of a lot higher than the $8/hour Wal-Mart wants them to be paid.

[LunaC]

24. “An attack within the US attributed to Iran.”

That won’t happen because they already used that ploy with 911 and it will make the “Tough on National Security” WH look weak and incompetent in the eyes of their bible-thumping, gun-toting base. It would only build on the seeds planted with Katrina.

When we go into Iran, it will be in support of our ally, Israel, who will initiate a preemptive strike on our behalf as the cover story. The PNAC crowd thinks a few tactical nukes will end the Iran problem but it will be another “we’ll be greeted with candy and flowers” miscalculation when the Gulf is shut down and the world oil supply is temporarily halted with economic repercussions of unprecedented magnitude.

When the masses can't satisfy their gas/oil lust, there will be chaos in the streets that will make the oil crisis of the 70's look like Romper Room. They'll get their Martial Law but by another route than the one you anticipate.

[Race4Peace]

38. THAT was in the SOTU... the sound dropped on 'Iraq' to make it sound like

he had said 'Iran':


"No one can deny the success of freedom, but some men fight and rage against it.
And one of the main sources of reaction and opposition is radical Islam; the perversion by a few of a noble faith into an ideology of terror and death. Terrorists like bin Laden are serious about mass murder, and all of us must take their declared intentions seriously. They seek to impose a heartless system of totalitarian control throughout the Middle East and arm themselves with weapons of mass murder."

immediately after wards comes this sentence, but the sound drops "Iraq"-

"Their aim is to seize power in Iraq, and use it as a safe haven to launch attacks against America and the world."

-to make it sound like "Iran."

[leftchick]

41. you are making me rethink my trip home in march

to see my parents. I don't want to leave my boys and husband in case something happens.

:scared:

[Beam Me Up]

15. Our LIVES are in danger. I've been saying this for some time. Al Gore said

it what, two years ago now? In a speech at NYU, he called for the resignations of most of Bush's cabinet for national security reasons. Most people on this planet don't even know that happened. I think it was rather unprecedented and truly 'news worthy' which is probably WHY it was under reported.

I've also been saying for some time that we are a hairs breadth from a civil war in this country. What is weird about that is it seems most people are completely clueless about it.

The pressure is building. I do not know how this is going to shake itself out but if past experience is any indication, a crisis is building in this country that will soon turn everything on its head. Strangely, perhaps, I am less afraid now of them than I was ten years ago. This may not go down exactly the way they've anticipated. --And believe me, they are anticipating.

[Lars39]

27. I agree.

You've said it so well.
They're anticipating all right. I think of the new crowd control gizmos they've got in Iraq.
It's just test runs for what's going to happen here.
I'm past wanting the blue pill now, too.

[shanti]

32. ITA, BMU

gotta shake the people away from "american idol" :eyes:

[Race4Peace]

37. Aw, this'll make our war with Iraq the Perfect Storm of all wars:

"When involved nations of an international war are each involved in civil war with themselves, the world shall find the end of civility, and once again roam as they please, nomadic cavemen naked as the mother of cockroach-brained jaybirds."

-Friar Rooney, 2-25-26

[debbierlus]

45. I always get sad when I see our TRUE President

And, think....ah - what might have been!

[Beam Me Up]

46. Me, too, debbierlus. Here is a link and quotes from the speech:

Here is a link to the statement as prepared MAY 26, 2004:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0527-01.htm

It is therefore essential that even as we focus on the fateful choice, the voters must make this November that we simultaneously search for ways to sharply reduce the extraordinary danger that we face with the current leadership team in place. It is for that reason that I am calling today for Republicans as well as Democrats to join me in asking for the immediate resignations of those immediately below George Bush and Dick Cheney who are most responsible for creating the catastrophe that we are facing in Iraq.

We desperately need a national security team with at least minimal competence because the current team is making things worse with each passing day. They are endangering the lives of our soldiers, and sharply increasing the danger faced by American citizens everywhere in the world, including here at home. They are enraging hundreds of millions of people and embittering an entire generation of anti-Americans whose rage is already near the boiling point.

We simply cannot afford to further increase the risk to our country with more blunders by this team. Donald Rumsfeld, as the chief architect of the war plan, should resign today. His deputies Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and his intelligence chief Stephen Cambone should also resign. The nation is especially at risk every single day that Rumsfeld remains as Secretary of Defense.

Condoleezza Rice, who has badly mishandled the coordination of national security policy, should also resign immediately.

George Tenet should also resign. I want to offer a special word about George Tenet, because he is a personal friend and I know him to be a good and decent man. It is especially painful to call for his resignation, but I have regretfully concluded that it is extremely important that our country have new leadership at the CIA immediately.

Here is a link to a WP story about the speech:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57543-2004May26.html

There SHOULD be a video of this speech somewhere but I've been unable to find it. It was a very fiery and powerful speech. I believe it was broadcast on C-span at the time. He was speaking at NYU at a talk sponsored by MoveOn.org

[kster]

16. I am probably wrong but

I dont see this deal going thru. If it does the thing they better fear is a revolution in 2006 when the Republicans come to realize with these election theft machines that they cannot vote these guys out. Then all hell breaks loose. My two cents.

[Race4Peace]

39. I'll second that notion n/t

[garybeck]

17. all of this is because of one thing.

election fraud.

we must stop it.

[shanti]

33. that's the bottom line

we aren't being heard.

[upi402]

23. shhhh

don't tell BushCo they are finally going to hit the wall...

:applause: :applause: :hide:

[leftofthedial]

26. last time this many people recognized him for the drooling idiot he is

and his gang for the criminals they are, he helped his Saudi and UAE buddies fly airplanes into buildings

[cliss]

29. That was a very well-written post

and I agree with you. I especially agree with "These people are lunatics". Yes they are.

Folks, we need to start thinking about ourselves. Katrina certainly proved to me that this government will NEVER be there for us if we need it. So we should start considering survival stuff; maybe 1 week's worth of food stored in the garage.

I'm serious. These lunatics are going to start WW3.

[Swamp Rat]

30. Yep

They have already begun here at home, practicing on us in New Orleans.

I hope the rest of y'all can handle the hardship that's to come. :cry:

[Nothing Without Hope]

34. Very true. There is no limit to the horrors they are capable of, and they

know that if they are removed from office they will be vulnerable to CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. Thus, they can't allow a peaceful transfer of power:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x509942
thread title (2-24-06 GD): Why Bush-Cheney Can Never Allow a Peaceful Transfer of Power
The poster begins: “Even here at DU, few of us really understand how high the stakes truly are for members of the Administration to keep control over Congress, the White House, the federal courts, and ultimately, the military. In the starkest possible terms, many ranking officials are facing the near-certainty of long periods of imprisonment even if Bush grants a presidential pardon to everyone. They are playing for keeps. Let me tell you why.” The UN Convention Aginst Torture, the US Torture Act of 2000 and the War Crimes Act of 1996 make the rules clear. (Not mentioned here but relevant – Bush swore to uphold binding US treaties – and that includes the Geneva Conventions.) The Alberto Mora memo, reported in the New Yorker last week, adds more proof of the culpability of the administration. The post goes on to explain how prosecution for war crimes could proceed.
In fact, the war crimes are only one area in which the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal committed crimes. But perhaps this is the area of criminal acts that may be most clearly prosecutable.

[Race4Peace]

36. We can get 'em out,but control would switch from exec. to judic. branch...

Ye know full well that this leads to shit. had this happened along in september last year, when the court wasn't quite as fucked, and the 'zut idiot americains'(damn silly americans)were begining to realize"who is this grandmother's cock?" of course, we got this november to take back the legislative branch, but to do so, we gotta get prepared for a shit-brawl...in tuxedoes.
but lets face it, everything's just gone to the shittiest of shits.



great, in 2 seconds, i'll be an excomunicated friar.

[Minnesota Libra]

43. Bush 41's Father financed and liked Hitler - does that tell you......

....what they are capable of???? :nuke:

[WinkyDink]

44. They've tried to make us afraid---and so they have!

Thus, this dubious Dubai deal has made Americans...AFRAID!
Bushco has NO WAY OUT. The "father-figure" has betrayed to the point of molestation his children, and they are now facing reality.

[smomfr]

48. Way back when......

I read about all of dumbya´s financial and political support before he stole the first election. Then I read he didn´t know the names of many world leaders, thats when things got scary for me.

[Clarkie1]

49. I agree with this is the endgame.

The tide has turned.

[deutsey]

52. I've always said that if they did what they did in 2000 to grab power

what do you think they will do to hold on to that power?

I think the only defense we have against these thugs is an enlivened, widespread, and cohesive grassroots movement among the people of this country united against the Bush Junta. I'm still on the fence as to whether I believe such a thing is possible at the moment.