George Bush Has Lost The War In Iraq

[ThomWV]

George W. Bush has lost the war in Iraq. In the process of doing so he has squandered the lives of almost 3,000 service men and women as well as reduced the security of the people of the United States.

I just wanted to say it clearly without making it sound any better or worse than it is. This is what the man has done.

[goclark]

1. I agree

[Upfront]

2. As Dean Said

We can not win the war in Iraq.

[ThomWV]

5. That Is Not What I Said

I did not say that "we can not win", what I said was that George W. Bush had lost that war. One is not the same thing as the other.

[blm]

9. True - The last window was immediately after the last election there.

The very next day, the US needed to withdraw a significant number of troops, and turn over the permanent bases to the Iraqi people, declaring we had no interest in occupying their country.

The symbolism in that type of gesture is ENORMOUS in a warzone.

[RazzleDazzle]

18. and he didn't say that's what YOU said, he said that's what DEAN

said, and I imagine he said it because he agrees with it.

[NanceGreggs]

3. Succinct, simple, and straight to the point.

K'd & R'd!

[Jamison]

4. For sure.

And if a nasty Civil War breaks out there, we may leave there with our tail between our legs.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

6. Exactly

It's tragically that simple.

The bastard needs beating and then impeaching.

He should be forced to spend one hour with each of those dead soldiers' families.

And then he should be handed over to the families of the 25,000 casualties our armed forces have sustained.

[postulater]

7. Hate to say it

but I don't think he really cares. He has Mission Accomplished what he wanted to do: get rid of Saddam (to show daddy how manly he is), made billions for his friends, and established bases throughout the Middle East for invading Iran.

I think he's happy about what he's accomplished and doesn't see tens of thousands murdered as his responsibility.

:mad:

[Hoping4Change]

19. You put your finger on it, he doesnt care.

If you have a chance pick up this month's Harpers. It has an incredible article about repukes being players which addresses this very point.

[madaboutharry]

8. Yes.

"squandered the lives of almost 3,000 service men and women...." It is painful to even read those words.

[niallmac]

10. I agree totally. Can I ask however

that you consider some mention of the thousand upon thousands of purely innocent lives we as a nation have destroyed and ruined needlessly in this context? I'm really not trying to pick a fight. I think we honor the lives of our own fallen even more when we acknowledge the cost of our actions on all of humanity.

[enid602]

11. wounded

Don't forget the scores of badly wounded soldiers. New advances in medicine and clotting factor administered immediately in the field have thankfully reduced significantly the number of deaths, but mask the true extent of casualties.

[bluerum]

12. Not to quibble - but there is small matter of several hundred billion $'s.

[ClayZ]

21. $100.000 per minute.. 24 hours a day.

Every bullet could have been a mouth full of food for a starving child.

[BlueEyedSon]

13. and $1.7 trillion

[Hardrada]

15. Bush has to work very hard to pay all that back!

He'd better get started.

[mdmc]

14. i know

:kick:

[Orsino]

16. * Is an Engine that Runs on Death and Misery.

Republican politics were an expensive luxury in Reagan's day, and one we can no longer afford.

[Babel_17]

17. Sadly though, many americans possibly won't understand this until ....

they see footage of the US military having to pull in massive firepower just to rescue our troops from the rioting on the streets.

I'm hoping it doesn't have to come to that or something similar before we come to grips with the Iraqi situation. For by then our options will have gone from bad to horrific.

[Disturbed]

20. Bush Regime Iraq Successes (Phase 1)

"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush (Nov. 2005)



Bush Regime Iraq Successes (Phase 1)

1. Saddam will no longer sell Iraqi oil via the Euro.

2, A military foothold in the ME. Other than Saudi Arabia.

3, No countries will be able to buy Iraqi oil that the U.S. disapproves of.

4. The Multi-Intl. Oil Corps are reaping great profits.

5.The Military Industrial Complex is a booming Industry.


US Forces and Mercs will be drawn down and hunker down at permanent bases but the majority will stay in Iraq. A small percentage will be re-deployed to Kuwaite and a few will come back to the USA.

[bvar22]

22. Just for clarity...

George W Bush* AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY have lost the war in Iraq.

The Republicans AS A PARTY are responsible for the FAILED and IMMORAL War in Iraq.
While some Democrats voted for the war, over One Hundred (145?) did NOT!.

[Rhiannon12866]

23. "The War Is Lost," excellent Will Pitt article from May 2004.

The War is Lost
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Monday 10 May 2004

<snip>
What is left? The one reason left has been unfailingly flapped around by defenders of this administration and supporters of this war: Saddam Hussein was a terrible, terrible man. He killed his own people. He tortured his own people. The Iraqis are better off without him, and so the war is justified.

And here, now, is the final excuse destroyed. We have killed more than 10,000 innocent Iraqi civilians in this invasion, and maimed countless others. The photos from Abu Ghraib prison show that we, like Saddam Hussein, torture and humiliate the Iraqi people. Worst of all, we do this in the same prison Hussein used to do his torturing. The "rape rooms," often touted by Bush as justification for the invasion, are back. We are the killers now. We are the torturers now. We have achieved a moral equivalence with the Butcher of Baghdad.

This war is lost. I mean not just the Iraq war, but George W. Bush's ridiculous "War on Terror" as a whole.

I say ridiculous because this "War on Terror" was never, ever something we were going to win. What began on September 11 with the world wrapping us in its loving embrace has collapsed today in a literal orgy of shame and disgrace. This happened, simply, because of the complete failure of moral leadership at the highest levels.
<snip>

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051004A.shtml