Bush Cheney Rift set to grow

[elduderino]

the rift that already exists between Bush and Cheney from going to war is set to grow even further...from all the bad news coming from the region.

Bush must kicking himself why Cheney (and his neocon cabal) persuaded him to go thru with the war.

This will be Bush's legacy - A failed war that cost the tax payer $400 billion dollars and rising (translates to approx $1500 per family in the US).

THE BIGGEST BLUNDER OF COURSE IS ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE THE TERRORISM THREAT WORSE BY RADICALISING THOUSANDS MORE TO THE JIHAD CAUSE. NOT TO FORGET IRAQ WAS NOT A HOTBED FOR ALQAEDA BEFORE - BUT IT SURE IS NOW.

Cheney if you do go - i'd imagine he'd to enjoy the secret payoffs provided by Haliburton etc in the hundred or so secret swiss bank accounts - probably running into hundreds of millions...

...if there is one politician that will not need to do the college circuit - it is Cheney.

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. And everyone who protects Bush from facing accountability will

also be remembered in history as aiding and abetting this terrible period.

[peace frog]

2. Whoa nellie....

Bush must kicking himself why Cheney (and his neocon cabal) persuaded him to go thru with the war.

What makes you think Bush was not just as eager to wage war as Cheney? The fact that George W Bush surrounded himself with warmongers when he took the office of president, and with all that has followed, tells me that war with Iraq was always his goal.

[elduderino]

i do agree with your point,

..., but at the same time i just cant help but see Bush as a thinly educated playboy simpleton who just does what he is told **points to karl roves brain**:shrug:

[H2O Man]

14. There is no question

that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, and Wolfowitz had set their eyes on Iraq long before George W. Bush could have located it on a globe. Bush's grasp of Iraq was limited to knowing his father had been involved in a conflict there as president, and to paraphrase the son, Saddam was "the guy who threatened " his father.

[BOSSHOG]

5. And I second that Whoa

bush wanted war as much as cheney, possibly more. I appreciate the original post but it makes bush seem almost human; working with a conscience. If a "riff" does materialize it will be manufactured to slip in a more desireable human being than cheney in the VP slot heading towards 08.

[LisaLynne]

9. Again, I agree with BOSSHOG.

The closest thing to regret I can imagine * feeling would be "Dayum, Dick, you told me this would be easy and I'd always be a popular, loved war president!" And I seriously even doubt * is allowed to know how poorly the Iraq war is going or what his poll numbers are. If Cheney resigns, it will ONLY be a staged thing, in order to get someone into the VP slot to run next time.

[BOSSHOG]

10. There is nothing they do that is not political and calculated

The good of the country is not even an afterthought. The only problem with this scenario is who wants to sacrifice themselves as george's VEEP. I kinda think that stunt might be a career ender. I have every confidence in the hard work and good intentions of liberals that there will not be a Republican in the white house come 09.

[unblock]

13. not sure he wanted "war" per se. he just wanted saddam.

he might have been content with a stealthy assassination. but he DEFINITELY wanted revenge on saddam.

[npincus]

7. it was always about one-upping Daddy, in my opinion

becoming preseident like Daddy (but Chimp had to be a 2-termer), "finishing the job" in Iraq... it's always been about out-doing and mpressing Daddy. 9-11 gave him carte blanche to work out his Oedipal issues on a global stage.

[hippiechick]

3. oh please ...

George can't take a piss without asking Dick to give him directions first.
I'm sure Poppy insisted that his ole' pal Dick be on the ticket - Dick's the brains, George is just the spokesmodel.

This rift is nothing more than a set up for Dick to retire
a. before the Plame indictments/trials
b. before any other scandals break ie, Energy "Task Force"
c. so a new GOP'er can be made VP who can run (as a pseudo-incumbent) in '08.

IMO, that was one of the main reasons they never fully impeached Clinton - 'cause then Gore would have been President and they knew there was no way they could foist a candidate on us who could beat a sitting President from such a successful Administration.

[0007]

16. I agree, and one of the main director's of this play is James A. Baker

in the interest of the Carlyle Group, where daddy bush was president. Cheney was a good choice for Vice President because of his many connections with Halliburton and Sub Contractors.

[izzie]

4. Well Bush kissed up to this guy so who cares if Cheney takes him down

Bush used Cheney to get the job in the first place. One is as bad as the other. Just what they are trying to do is beyond me any how.Tearing down America does not look like a good plan for us or for the world but it is the only aim I can see that has gone on in the last 5 years.

[mtnester]

6. I personally believe for AT LEAST 8 YEARS - EVERYTHING

should be Bush's fault....considering this admin is STILL blaming Clinton for their failures, I think we ought to return the favor. This should be a priority TPM from the Dems, starting NOW.

Hell, forget 8 years, let's go for a DECADE OR TWO because that is how long it will take to clean up his damn mess, if ever. Heck, my hubby and I talked last night about whether it could be cleaned up in our lifetimes, and we are only in our mid 40's.

[Hubert Flottz]

8. Nice Try!

But no dice! KKKarl got his "WAR pRESIDENT"!

[Boo Boo]

11. Current issue of Harper's: Cost of war 20,000 per taxpayer.

This via Alterman's blog on the HuffPo. Have no idea how they arrived at that figure.

[Boo Boo]

12. The thing that is really pushing these two further apart is the way Bush

keeps taunting Cheney during staff meetings by pointing out that, "Dude, I'm twice as popular as you are!"

[WinkyDink]

15. Bush must [be ] kicking himself why Cheney (and his neocon cabal)

persuaded him...."
This is a joke, right?
Bush needed to be "persuaded"?
Yeah, I think it's called NOT!
He's a psychopath who loves violence and bloodshed. No persuasion needed for this sicko to call himself "a war president".

[linazelle]

17. Where did you get this information on the growing "rift"?

I don't think there is a rift at all, and the suggestion that there is only serves to insulate Bush from his own failures. It's not all Cheney's fault.

[H2O Man]

18. Joseph Wilson

among others has said there is a rift between the offices of the president and vice president. The corporate media has reported a rift between Bush and Cheney.