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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:01 PM
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Bush blames Iran for Iraq roadside bombs
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=63c1e2a53a74d41b

President Bush has accused Iran of helping Shi'ite militias in Iraq build more effective roadside bombs, the most lethal weapon against U.S. forces and Iraqi civilians.

The president said Monday the U.S. government is intensifying its effort to fight the bombs.

President Bush blamed Iran directly for helping Iraqi insurgents improve their improvised explosive devices, or IED's, the weapon that is responsible for more than half of the 1,800 U.S. combat deaths in Iraq.

"Some of the most powerful IED's we're seeing in Iraq today include components that came from Iran," said President Bush. "Our Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, told the congress Tehran has been responsible for at least some of the increasing lethality of anti-coalition attacks by providing Shia' militia with the capability to build improvised explosive devices in Iraq. Coalition forces have seized IED's and components that were clearly produced in Iran."

Speaking to an audience at George Washington University not far from the White House, the president said Iran's support for terrorism and pursuit of nuclear weapons will result in continuing U.S. efforts to lead the international community in confronting Iran
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9/11= Saddam WMD Iraq bombs = Iran
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:04 PM
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1. I didn't think it was possible to hate someone as much as I hate him.
It's sickening what he and his cabal have done and are going to do.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:09 PM
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2. Did I see a US General say there is no proof Iran is responsible
and yet Bush says they are??? I'm so confused??? Somebody help me out here!!!

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/redir.php?jid=e823c49728afb950&cat=c08dd24cec417021



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top U.S. military officer said on Tuesday the United States does not have proof that Iran's government is responsible for Iranians smuggling weapons and military personnel into Iraq.

President George W. Bush said on Monday components from Iran were being used in powerful roadside bombs used in Iraq, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said last week that Iranian Revolutionary Guard personnel had been inside Iraq.

Asked whether the United States has proof that Iran's government was behind these developments, Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Pentagon briefing, "I do not, sir."

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Someone explain??? and when you get done explain Cheney's link to 9/11 and Saddam???
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:14 PM
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5. I especially like Rumfilled's first quote...
"Unless you physically see it in a government-sponsored vehicle or with government-sponsored troops, you can't know it," Rumsfeld said at the same briefing.


Of course he followed that with this:

"All you know is that you find equipment, weapons, explosives, whatever, in a country that came from the neighboring country."


So basically, the only way you can know if the components come from another country is either you see them being brought in, or you somehow just KNOW it. That sounds like the definition of wishful thinking to me...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:51 PM
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19. guess the intell is not too good.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:15 PM
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7. He doesn't need proof
He can just say "whoops" later on, after he starts another war.

Then he can do a comedy session where he looks around his office "Are Iran's IED builders here? Nope. How about under the desk? Nope, not there either."

The media will laugh, and congress will say it's got nothing to do with them. The dead won't have a say.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:31 PM
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13. nope, bush mucked up.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:27 PM
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30. But, but, but I thought it was Syria behind all this? N. Korea?
Did N. Korea disapper off the earth? I guess they are just not important right now...oh, geography puts them out of the terrorist picture.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:12 PM
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33. geez, Bushieboy, get your "facts" straight, hahaha
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:10 PM
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3. wait a minute! I thought gay married terrists were sponsible.
what's going on here!

:P
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:11 PM
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4. Iran's fault, the LA Times's fault
Everyone but Bush himself.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:15 PM
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6. Where is he getting his Intel??? From Chalabi or Niger
documents from Iraq???:sarcasm:

What it shows me is the Military isn't going to cover for his butt anymore!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:18 PM
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8. I think Rummy and His General denyed this today.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:53 PM
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20. yes, they did. --something got into his speech again that was amuck!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:21 PM
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9. next he'll claim iran is responsible for global warming!
this orwellian switch from syria to iran will fool only the kool-aid drinkers. and the military just exposed his lies too.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:26 PM
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10. Bush gaffe - he messed up and said something true.
And that is that if Iran is sending weapons it is sending the weapons to the SHIITE MILITIAS and not to the SUNNI INSURGENCY, an admission not before heard by my ears from the Bush cabinet, from Bush himself or Rumsfeld etc. This Bush assertion is reasonable and likely quite true. As such, it is likely an unintentional mistake on Bush's part.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:11 PM
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28. i think that answers my question below. The only time this dickhead is
actually honest is when he verbalizes his thought bubble.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:28 PM
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11. US general says no proof Iran behind Iraq arms


Tue Mar-14-06 02:16 PM
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US general says no proof Iran behind Iraq arms

US general says no proof Iran behind Iraq arms
Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:41 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top U.S. military officer said on Tuesday the United States does not have proof that Iran's government is responsible for Iranians smuggling weapons and military personnel into Iraq.

President George W. Bush said on Monday components from Iran were being used in powerful roadside bombs used in Iraq, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said last week that Iranian Revolutionary Guard personnel had been inside Iraq.

Asked whether the United States has proof that Iran's government was behind these developments, Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Pentagon briefing, "I do not, sir."

"Unless you physically see it in a government-sponsored vehicle or with government-sponsored troops, you can't know it," Rumsfeld said at the same briefing. "All you know is that you find equipment, weapons, explosives, whatever, in a country that came from the neighboring country."
(snip/...)

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=pol...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:29 PM
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12. Bush mucked up (seems to me)
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:48 PM
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16. So where is Negroponte's evidence???
Where O where is the proof that the US Generals don't know about???
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:48 PM
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17. either bush needs a new speechwriter or these 2 are mucked up.
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george_hurley Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:44 PM
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14. ***PETITION TO SIGN: NO WAR WITH IRAN ***
Hello,

For the past year, the growing tensions mounting between the US, Israel, and Iran are reaching a point where military action against Iran is w/in months of becoming reality. The repercussions are terrifying as such military action could involve countries such as China and Russia as they share massive energy/economic interests w/ Iran. The most likely scenario we would face would be the collapse of the US economy as the combination of a massive rise in oil prices and a run on the US dollar would surely be the weapon many countries would use to fight back against a preemptive US or Israeli strike.

For a collection of articles and resources on this subject you can visit this link: http://reseaudesign.com/research/iran/iran_summery.html

I'm starting up a petition which I will be sending out to as many members of Congress as possible. I'm asking for help to get this signed by as many people, possible in the next month. Send it to as many people you can.

http://www.petitiononline.com/n0war1rn /



Also, here is another petition you can sign from another group:
http://stopwaroniran.org/statement.shtml




Thanks for your time


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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:57 PM
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23. Bingo rodedance ... They keep screwing up!!!
but I wonder if this is Negroponte's set up for war with IRAN!!!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:45 PM
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15. Negroponte is the beacon of integrity
No doubt this is true, and not just wishful thinking/propaganda for a future "military action" against Iran.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:50 PM
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18. but we know the WH staff is so tired. muck up again or not keeping the
lies straight. Take your pick.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:54 PM
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21. Or someone inserted that into his speech on purpose?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:39 PM
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32. Here is an absolute BIG MISTAKE written by Bush speechwriters
making it look like Bush and Negroponte have not let Rumsfeld and his generals the evidence that Iran is responsible for the bombs.............

or...
Someone is lying again.......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:55 PM
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22. n.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:59 PM
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24. Oh really George? Are you forgetting all the explosive material
that was stolen three years ago because you were too busy guarding the oil? Asshole.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:06 AM
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34. Bingo, antonialee839!
Who was it...Bremer? who fired the entire Iraqi army at the beginning. All munitions were left unguarded for the taking. And they were.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:04 PM
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25. Next up on the Road to War: Iran!
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:08 PM
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26. Obviously Bush flunked HISTORY,
as in Napoleon and Hitler, cannot fight wars on 3 fronts (Afghanistan, Iraq AND Iran?).

But then he has so much in common with those two, so it doesn't surprise me.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:09 PM
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27. I'm confused. Is man or monkey saying that Iran
is supplying the Sunnis???????
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:12 PM
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29. And I Blame You, George for starting this Fucked Up War of Yours
and getting thousands killed, you sick degenerate rich megolomaniac!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:36 PM
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31. Is he this arrogant, or this stupid?
This the same drivel he peddled about Saddam, claiming that the anthrax used in the US attacks had been traced back to Baghdad!

By the way, maybe there's a connection between Iraq's "components" and the 350 TONS of ammunition that was stolen from U.S. custody!

:argh:
rocknation
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