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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:47 PM
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Remember Bush's "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out" 2002 comment?
Here is the article. I find it very curious, because, you know, NO President wants war.

He should be questioned on this at his next news conference.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/24/timep.saddam.tm/index.html

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:47 PM
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1. We did not choose war, this war came to US you know.
:sarcasm:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:57 PM
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10. Yes, the war that actually came to the US has not been sucessfully
executed. Where is Bin Laden?

I think the man that orchestrated the death of 3000 Americans should be captured.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:48 PM
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2. Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of after Helen Thomas's question.
Everyone knows he was lying about not wanting the war, except for people in extreme denial, for whom his "No President wants war" explanation must have been very soothing.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:50 PM
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5. Yeah, the no president wants war comment.
To me, that shows his issue with "splitting" everything into black and white. "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists" comes to mind.

There are no grey areas with him.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:56 PM
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9. But he doesn't believe that.
His thing is communicating to people who do. Hence the good and evil, with us or against us rhetoric. He directs his speech to the dumbest people in America and hopes the rest will read between the lines and figure out what they thought he meant to say.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:01 PM
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11. I think he does believe it in a lot of things.
For example, he thought it was bad that his father didn't go after Hussein. His father realized that there would be endless insurgency, and that capturing Hussein or seizing Baghdad was not part of the original reason for going in.

That to Bush was all grey area. He sees political capital, and that he needs to use it, whether justified or not. No matter the consequences. He could not see that his father listened to his generals, and did what he needed to do.

He sure does direct his speech at the dumbest citizens, that is certain. It is irritating to hear him speak anymore.

:hi:
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:49 PM
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3. Yeah. . . .but how could you bring this up
at a press conference and keep it "clean" for the airwaves?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:54 PM
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6. Just say "F"
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 01:34 PM by nytemare
or "expletive".

Mr President, in your last press conference, you said that you did not want war, that no President wants war. However, in 2002 at a meeting between Dr Rice and 3 Senators who were discussing how to deal with Iraq and the UN, you felt the need to poke your head in the room and say "F___ Saddam, we're taking him out". Could you explain why a president who does not want war would make such a comment at a time where peaceful alternatives were being discussed if that president was not hell bent on war?
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:30 PM
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15. excellent response.
I suggest we FLOOD the inboxes of the WH press corps with just that question.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:35 PM
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16. What is Helen's e mail?
:D

The problem is, Bush never allows follow ups. The press corps would have to have a list of questions to ask in order, if one gets skipped, the next one asks the next question, and so on.


Yeah!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:49 PM
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4. He wanted war when he was Govenor of Texas
he said it then... How stupid do they think we are?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:55 PM
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8. Wasn't it in his Biography?
Something about "politcal capital"?
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:54 PM
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7. Citizen, you have committed a thought crime
Do you have clearance to access The Memory Hole?

Papers, please.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:02 PM
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12. No, I have amnesia.
I have no access to the memory hole. I've got no means to show identification.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:24 PM
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13. I always wondered why that never got more play
That, IMO, was far more revealinjg on many levels than his "Mission Accomplished" hoo-hah, or even his "bring it on" misstatement.

One is the level that they had already made their minds up long before they claied that war could e averted.

The other is his verbiage. He sounded like John Gotti. And what would his "decent family values" supporters think of a president who uses the F-word so casually? Is that how a good Christian talks?

Personally, I'm not averse to cussing. But for those lily-white Church Ladies and Church Gentlemen, it seems like it would be more than a little offensie.

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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:30 PM
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14. It sure is.
It says he doesn't care what they think, he is going to war.

And, rather than going to congress with an actual case for war, he gave reasons they might have to go to war, and asked for permission as a last option that he be the one to decide whether or not to go. He had already decided. He took Congress' job away from them. There goes the role of congress in checks and balances. We see what happened to the court's role with this wiretapping.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 01:37 PM
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17. But... but... that's not the good news coming out of Iraq!!!
:sarcasm:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:11 PM
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18. They just aren't using the same tactics with the news here as in Iraq
There, they just pay newspaper to print stories. Maybe they do here as well, but they just aren't trying as hard.

:shrug:
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