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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:55 AM
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Dean says Bush changed speech time to step on Democrats' event .
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 01:00 AM by madfloridian
62nd annual Radio & Television Correspondents' Association dinner last night at the Washington Hilton.

Good for him.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/30/AR2006033000003.html

The theme of the dinner was "A Salute to Congress," which is kind of refreshing, don't you think?

After Tom DeLay's indictment and Duke Cunningham's guilty plea and Jack Abramoff's sentencing, most of the salutes Congress sees these days are the kind that feature an extended middle finger.

Does Congress deserve a salute?

"Half of it does," said Howard Dean, the Democratic Party chairman.

That would be the Democratic half, which, to be purely technical about it, would be a little less than half.

But Dean swears that's going to get bigger soon. "We have a message that works and we're getting it out," he said. Then he touted a speech earlier in the day by Democratic congressional leaders Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. "The president cleverly changed his speech time to step on it," Dean complained. "The president changed his speech from 12 to 1, when they were speaking."


:rofl:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:02 AM
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1. And Cheney presided....you need to read his unfunny jokes.
"I feel very comfortable up here," Dick Cheney said as he stood at the podium at the 62nd annual Radio & Television Correspondents' Association dinner last night at the Washington Hilton.

"The lighting could be better, but I can still see the whites of your eyes," the sometime quail hunter joked."

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padia Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:03 AM
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2. this is the first time
I disagree with Dean I do not believe bush did anything "cleverly" I'm sure the msm will hide harry & nancy's comments though
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:08 AM
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3. Done with malice likely.
Bush put himself on display for over an hour to thwart....malicious is more like it.

But Dean was at the NBC table with Peter Pace and Evan Bayh...guess he thought cleverly was a better choice.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:54 AM
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8. I agree that there was nothing clever about it.
However, yet again Dean calls a spade a spade.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:08 AM
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4. Oh my!! Howard Dean can't talk that way. Somebody might get offended!!
:sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:14 AM
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5. And look where he did it and in public. He must be chastised.
It was funny though. It would be worth even if they all said he did not speak for them...It was worth hearing it said at press dinner.

:woohoo:
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:41 AM
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6. Fuck 'em.
:P

:hi: Crazy!
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:09 AM
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12. Hey northofdenali!
:bounce:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:50 PM
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19. ditto n/t
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:52 AM
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7. Howard, Howard, oh Howard,
you cannot say things like that against bush. Cause on Thursday the numb/none nuts dems in the senate especially will be saying to the media, Dean shouldn't be accusing our president that way.....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:41 AM
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9. I know what you mean. The VP as host can joke about shooting.
But if Dean tells the truth in public, they will fuss at him a lot.

Double standard of truth and honesty.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:51 AM
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10. So what?
Howard already said that if he was elected as DNC chairman, he wouldn't run
in 2008. He has nothing to lose at this point, and if you have ever heard him
speak, he is quick, articulate, funny, and informed. He is everything Bush is
not. Let him rip.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:00 AM
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11. Suits me. I was not disapproving.
Yes, I have heard him speak. We were part of his campaign since Feb. 2003. Not disapproving at all. He should have said it.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:11 AM
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13. "Half of it does," said Howard Dean
Sadly he should mean only half of the Democrats as well. There's just too many cowardly DLC types that are impeding people like Feingold, Boxer, etc. from finding their voice and having a spine.

We need to be an opposition party and too many times a lot of these Dems are just too afraid of their own shadow to speak against Republicans or the President in any way.

I hate that fact because I vote Democrat every time out and wouldn't even consider a conservative in an election but it is pretty depressing to know that you have Bush's poll numbers in the toilet, Republicans on the run and the public wanting anybody to step up and tell them the truth and *some* Democrats feel the need to balk and hope it all just caves in on the Republicans enough to win by default.

Rp
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:45 PM
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14. What did Olbermann say about the schedule?
I heard something about the fact that he said the Democrats scheduled when Bush was scheduled...but that does not seem to be the fact. The Dems had that time scheduled for a couple of days I think.

:shrug:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:48 PM
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15. Pathetic that the PRESS didn't discuss the blatant move by Bush and that
AGAIN, the UNcovered Dem leaders are stuck having to point out their job to them.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:44 PM
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16. The press I think was complicit, enjoying the pre-emption.
A whole hour and a half Bush got. Cheney gets to preside over the dinner, making cheap jokes and they all enjoy it. There seems to be no intelligent life in the press or media anymore.

Not a word about the pre-empting. This is all I have heard.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:47 PM
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17. And if Dean hadn't said it, it would've gone completely UNREPORTED.
I swear, mf, the new corporate media IS set up to protect the fascists and ATTACK all Democrats trying to represent the people.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:49 PM
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18. And this is the only coverage I have seen of what he said.
I checked out the blogs about the dinner, and there is nothing about his remarks. Just salivating over the tasteless Cheney jokes.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:45 PM
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20. A final kick for the pre-emption.
Sad case when the only media who mentions it gets it wrong, and the rest ignore that the president moved his speech up an hour.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 04:23 PM
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21. More details from WP on the pre-emption by Bush.
I find it hard to believe that so little media covered this at all. Alarming. I guess our media is pretty far gone to go along with this charade so readily...

Reporter was talking about how Bush just kept on talking.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/03/30/BL2006033000886_3.html
"Don't Blame Me
But why would he do that? One possible reason yesterday was: To preempt any
television coverage of a press conference at which leading Democrats were
unveiling their Bush-bashing security agenda.

Indeed, Bush's event had originally been scheduled for 1:20 p.m. yesterday.
But Tuesday afternoon, the White House suddenly moved it up to 12:50. The
Democratic press conference was scheduled to start at 1. Bush finally
wrapped up his talk at 2:22.
Anyone know when the Democrats stopped talking?
Anybody see anyone in the audience giving him hand signals"

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