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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:55 PM
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can anyone answer this for me?
if you know someone who agrees that environmental laws need to be strengthened, women should have the right to choose, has no issues with hand gun control, believes that politicians are controlled by big money, whose stock portfolio hasn't benefited from the current administration, who would like americans to have affordable health care, never liked bush, and yet this person ALWAYS votes republican and always will. (actually, i know several people like this).

seriously, what is this about??

:shrug:
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:01 PM
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1. Blind allegiance to a political party,
and no allegiance to ones country.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:02 PM
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2. Denial....not just a river in Egypt. nt
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:03 PM
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3. Simple
because they are Republicans.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:05 PM
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7. Or MePublicans as I like to call them.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:03 PM
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4. Sounds like you're talking about my sister. n/t
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:05 PM
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5. that is the GOP's Party platform for the next election..they are desperate
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:05 PM
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6. Strict party loyalty.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:05 PM
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8. My honest opinion. Piss poor branding by the Democratic Party.
If you don't know what the options are....what do you do?
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:21 PM
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19. i've noticed a couple of labels -
tax and spend and bleeding heart
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:30 PM
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22. My point exactly. If that's the label people hear repeatedly with no
significant retort, well....guess what sticks?
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:06 PM
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9. It's my mother
77 years old. Always votes Republican because "my daddy told me to".
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:06 PM
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10. They want to be on the "winning team."
Never mind that the victory the GOP has in mind will fuck all those things up and make life a lot harder for everyone else, as long as they're hitching their wagon the the fastest-moving car on the track they think everything will be okay...for themselves.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:06 PM
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11. HELP ME !!! I'm a Republican and i cant quit lying..!!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:06 PM
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12. They are more concerned...
about gays getting married and those horrible I-rocky terriss coming to get them. Fear - the Number 1 motivator.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:15 PM
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16. surprise
most of them think gays should be able to marry!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:17 PM
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32. You are right...
and getting righter all the time. But in 2004, a CBS poll showed 59% of Americans favored a ban on gay marriage:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/24/national/main601828.shtml

But as time goes by, more and more favor the right of gays to marry, while Bush's numbers tumble. The scales are tipping, and I was only referring to those confused Bush-backers referred to in the OP.

;)
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:07 PM
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13. self destruction?
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:07 PM
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14. Does she buy into the whole terror thing lock, stock and barrel?
:shrug:
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:17 PM
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17. most of them do not support the iraq war
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:10 PM
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15. I eat lunch with one of them and so
I asked her. She told me Democrats are wimps.

I'm just quoting her. Don't flame the messenger. I was about to mention how skewed the "who has served and who hasn't" chart is but the bell rang. Another day. Maybe I'll find it and print it out.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:20 PM
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18. "Democrats are wimps" -- and did you ask her what she
meant by that? In my opinion (taking Randi Rhodes' line out a little), this is basically an expression of misogyny. "Wimp" is a code word for soft, empathetic values historically associated with females. Those happen to be values I embrace, btw. But what's really weird is that this female friend of yours is expressing a coded misogyny without realizing it.

Randi Rhodes yesterday said "liberal" became a bad word with the rise of the women's movement in the late '60s/early '70s.

Or am I being overly theoretical here?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:29 PM
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21. Interesting point
especially as this woman is a lesbian.

"Wimp" to me, means basically "pussy." I wonder what the word's origins are?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:44 PM
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26. A lesbian for BFEE is kind of like a Jew for Hitler, I'd say.
Not sure what etymology of 'wimp' is. I'm in a bit of a hurry, or I would run it down today. Maybe tomorrow?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:56 PM
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27. This woman is still in the closet but has shared with me
she has a lot of shame and self-hatred about herself. She has never had an open relationship at all. As a matter of fact, I don't think she even dates.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:04 PM
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28. Scratch the surface of most Repukes and you'll
find a lot of shame and self-hatred. IMHO, they're so virulently homophobic to mask their own latent homosexuality. By contrast, most progressives accept the fact that human sexuality exists on a spectrum and no one is either 100% hetero or 100% homo.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:27 PM
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20. Most don't see a major difference between parties. IMO
I think it matters what region as well. Republicans are not considered social conservatives in the Northeast, for example, and run on the above platform--Snowe for one.

The 2004 elections had many long time repubs voting democrat BUT many long time dems voted for Bush--go figure.

I think assuming all conservatives are repub and all liberals are dems is a problem.

All politics are local.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:35 PM
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24. thanx, that applies in a couple of cases
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:33 PM
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23. here's one
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:05 PM
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30. Now I know where Tucker Carlson got his look. n/t
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:42 PM
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25. I live in a county FULL of such people
But many are saying they are no longer Republicans as things have finally hit the tipping point. They know the GOP has left them
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:05 PM
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29. low self-esteem?
must be. why else would anybody vote against their own self-interest like that (and it explains other odd Republican behavior, like the cowboy shit).

by voting with the rich, maybe they think some of it will rub off on them?
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:17 PM
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31. maybe they consider it being the "elite" party?
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