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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:48 PM
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bushitler you've had it now- Murray Waas of Nat'l Journal- today!
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 03:49 PM by lonestarnot
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:50 PM
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1. Roves method to rise to power will be the same that destroys
him and anyone around him......They are all tainted....seems like the pace of these revelations are picking up....

Could it be that insiders have been waiting for the right moment in time to release the information...because the timing is spot on....
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:55 PM
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7. I was thinking the same thing
The avalanche is picking up speed for sure! Lovin' it!


This one is particularly disturbing. God forbid the voters should have too much information just before an election! :sarcasm:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:51 PM
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2. All you need to know...
Hadley was particularly concerned that the public might learn of a classified one-page summary of a National Intelligence Estimate, specifically written for Bush in October 2002. The summary said that although "most agencies judge" that the aluminum tubes were "related to a uranium enrichment effort," the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Energy Department's intelligence branch "believe that the tubes more likely are intended for conventional weapons."

Three months after receiving that assessment, the president stated without qualification in his January 28, 2003, State of the Union address: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."



K&R
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:52 PM
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3. Da tubes bushitler, da tubes! Ly'n bastid!
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:52 PM
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4. Please let this get out!!
I can't stand it anymore.
I really can't.
I want to go back to when I didn't think about the WH every few minutes.

I want them out of our house!!!!!!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:54 PM
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5. Hadley had it tooooo!
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:54 PM
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6. I've got some BS in a box to sell you if you believe this...
there is just NO WAY this is not a decision to protect Bush in order to save ALL their bacon. The real question is, who is the scapegoat gonna be? Was it Andy Card yesterday? Or someone about to be fired?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:55 PM
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8. Jeebus I wish more murkins could read and comprehend. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:44 PM
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20. Well how do we help them out, public readings?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:54 PM
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24. I have no magic bullets really...
but I know its not going to get better with the repukes and fundies running the education system.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:04 PM
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9. Tenet's resignation earned him his medal
A busy day for the cabal.

snip>
After Air Force One landed in Entebbe, the president placed the blame squarely on the CIA for the Niger information in the State of the Union: "I gave a speech to the nation that was cleared by the intelligence services." Within hours, Tenet accepted full responsibility......

Behind the scenes, the White House and Tenet had coordinated their statements for maximum effect. Hadley, Libby, and Rove had reviewed drafts of Tenet's statement days in advance. And Hadley and Rove even suggested changes in the draft, according to government records and interviews.
end snip>

It's blatantly clear that a cover-up was in play-

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But White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett suggested that both the president and Rice had been unaware of this information: "They did not read footnotes in a 90-page document." Later, addressing the same issue, Bartlett said, "The president of the United States is not a fact-checker."

Because the Bush administration was able to control what information would remain classified, however, reporters did not know that Bush had received the President's Summary that informed him that both State's INR and the Energy Department doubted that the aluminum tubes were to be used for a nuclear-related purpose.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:06 PM
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10. A few questions--
who wrote the Presidential Summary re the aluminum tubes? Who wrote the 2003 SOTUS? What role did Chimp play in developing the SOTUS? Who was present when the Presidential Summary re the al-tubes was discussed, if that topic was discussed? Insulating him is ingenuous--but the Chimp's actual knowledge compared with what he said, is the ultimate in Presidential Prevarication.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:16 PM
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13. Good Questions....
I had to look up prevarication...good word
1Prevarication
n 1: a statement that deviates from or perverts the truth 2: intentionally vague or ambiguous 3: the deliberate act of deviating from the truth

So my question is...even if he didn't know the truth does that reduce his culpability by speaking those 16 words....and start an invasion.

He is the President and every word out of his mouth he is ultimately responsible for..


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:22 PM
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15. Well one would think that he is ultimately responsible, but
everyone seems to be more than willing to fall on the sword for him. It must be his evil connection.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:12 PM
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11. the other thread...and that idiotic Sout Park thread gets four times
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:13 PM
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12. Quality over quantity
Just read this



In July 2004, when the Intelligence Committee released a 511-page report on its investigation of prewar intelligence by the CIA and other agencies, Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said in his own "Additional Views" to the report, "Concurrent with the production of a National Intelligence Estimate is the production of a one-page President's Summary of the NIE. A one-page President's Summary was completed and disseminated for the October 2002 NIE ... though there is no mention of this fact in report. These one-page NIE summaries are ... written exclusively for the president and senior policy makers and are therefore tailored for that audience."

Durbin concluded, "In determining what the president was told about the contents of the NIE dealing with Iraq's weapons of mass destruction -- qualifiers and all -- there is nothing clearer than this single page."



http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0330nj1.htm







In short, this NIE Summary, the one that proves Bush knew that he was making dodgy claims, was among the material that Addington and Libby refused to turn over to the SSCI. And they refused to turn it over even while Durbin insisted that only the Summary would reveal what Bush knew and when he knew it.

They deliberately refused to turn over the evidence that Bush knew the intelligence was dodgy.

But it's not too late. It seems to me this NIE Summary is precisely the kind of thing the Phase II investigation needs to have to be able to determine whether BushCo politicized the intelligence. C'mon, Senate Whitewash Intelligence Committee, Murray Waas has done your work for you. Tell us again, did President Bush politicize the intelligence?



http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/03/bush_knew.html



Sen. Roberts should be #$#%#$^^$%^^&%^&:argh::argh::argh:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:20 PM
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14. Agree!
:mad:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:30 PM
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17. JFC! those snips show more than ever the NECESSITY of winning
back one of the houses of congress

this really has to be stopped before it goes any farther

unfortunately, it may be already too late, and the spineless ones will most likely be too afraid to roll back even the worst of the constitutional abrogations these slimy crooks have perpetrated on us

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:47 PM
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21. here is a related thread for awareness of this
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:48 PM
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22. Roberts is one of the worst
He lies with an arrogance I have rarely witnessed.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:26 PM
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16. Go figure.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:37 PM
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19. I know! -I was a little bummed about this one too
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=794696&mesg_id=794696

No scandal, nothing about tweety, but it's a TOTAL antidote to all the complaining about Democrats who don't stand up. :grr:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:49 PM
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23. thanks...this is more important than people know, and, of course,
it gets zero publicity

how DARE he try to keep the public informed of the junta's myriad illegal activities?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:32 PM
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18. When will the people stand up against bush and his criminal
cronies?

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:55 PM
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25. That cartoon is great! n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:00 PM
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27. Cartoonist are always ahead of the curve.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:58 PM
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26. OMG Rove KNOWS he's a carnival barker-
"Step right up! Get your photo with Ari Fleischer -- get 'em while they're hot. Get your Condi Rice," Rove said
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 05:30 PM
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28. cheap porker look'n carney @ that.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 10:48 PM
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29. kick n/t
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