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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:36 AM
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Rice-the self-proclaimed historian-"Don't take Iraq errors 'literally'"

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/04/01/uk.rice.straw/index.html?section=cnn_topstories&eref=yahoo

Rice: Don't take Iraq errors 'literally'
U.S. secretary of state visits England amid anti-war protests

Saturday, April 1, 2006; Posted: 1:09 p.m. EST (18:09 GMT)
BLACKBURN, England (CNN)........


"I know we've made tactical errors, thousands of them, I'm sure," she said. "But when you look back in history what will be judged on is" whether the "right strategic decision" was made.

On Saturday, a reporter asked Rice to give examples of the mistakes.

"First of all, I meant it figuratively, not literally. Let me be very clear about that. I wasn't sitting around counting," she replied. "The point I was making to the questioner ... is that, of course, if you've ever made decisions, you've undoubtedly made mistakes.

"The important thing is to get the big strategic decisions right, and that I am confident that the decision to overthrow Saddam Hussein and give the Iraqi people an opportunity for peace and for democracy is the right decision."

"The other point I was making to the questioner is that I'm enough of a historian to know that things that looked brilliant at the moment turn out in historical perspective to be mistakes, and the things that look like mistakes turn out to have been right decisions."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:37 AM
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1. also says there will dissertations written about Bush Adm. mistakes.




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In a speech Friday at an event organized by the Chatham House think tank, Rice said, "I am quite certain there are going to be dissertations written about the mistakes of the Bush administration."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:39 AM
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2. She brushes off the protestors. I hope they come back to haunt her.


...Rice, who has been dogged by protesters over the past two days, denied that they have drowned out her messages, and repeated that the right to protest is fundamental in a democracy.

"Indeed, I've been very warmly welcomed. I've also noticed the people waving along the streets, I've noticed the considerable gathering of people from Blackburn, just on the other side of the demonstrations. I'm hearing their voices equally clearly and equally well," she said.

Straw also downplayed the demonstrations, including one in Liverpool Friday night that drew about 1,500 outside the city's Philharmonic Concert Hall.

A singer at the concert dedicated a song to the demonstrators, sang John Lennon's "Imagine" and gave an impromptu rendition of his "Give Peace A Chance."
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:43 AM
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3. "I know we've made tactical errors, thousands of them, I'm sure,"
In other news, the earth revolves around the sun....
That Condi, you can't slip anything past her.
:think:
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:49 AM
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4. Like that historical memo: "OBL determined to strike in the US"
She's a great one to define "errors"
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:54 AM
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5. that woman is absurd nt
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 07:56 AM
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6. So many mistakes to prove right... so little time.
At the moment I'm blinded by her brilliance.











:sarcasm: just in case you're blinded too.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:01 AM
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7. Two wrongs don't make a right...
but thousands of them do? :eyes::crazy:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:02 AM
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8. You stupid cow, you have failed on both the means AND the ends
Jesus, these idiots just don't understand the magnitude of their errors.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:35 AM
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9. When the credits roll on ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO's NEST, my guess
is that the soul of Nurse Cratchett leaps from celluloid into the current corpus of U.S. Secretary of State Condiliar Rice.

There's something about Condiliar that really reminds me of Nurse Cratchett in Kesey's story.

In any case, I am happy to see this post, rodeodance. You've got a long record on DU of finding the essence of stories, especially stories that frame larger events. This is no exception. What a spectacularly quotable set of remarks Rice has made here! They're unbelievable in some respects, and yet they came out of her very mouth.

I wonder if Secretary Rice is "enough of a historian" to realize that this is her last gig, that her pretend-cowboy boss is going down in flames owing to his administrration's wildly corrupt management of government, and her presidential ambitions with it, and that she is properly reviled by the British citizens she just encountered, in large part because she keeps spewing lies out of her twisted mouth about an extremely evil war that she sanctioned and endorsed.
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:37 AM
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10. Right strategic decision?
Big strategic decisions? Like ignoring the guy who attacked you and attacking someone unrelated? And I'm afraid your "strategic decisions" in all their BRILLIANCE might get a tiny bit overlooked by history in favor of the, you know, EVIL. Body counts. Lies, murder, torture, theft. Pointless little details like that. That troublesome history tends to notice that kind of thing.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:39 AM
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11. Fugg off Condilieso n/t
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