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atal Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:31 PM
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Hillary's sniper fire? Barack can top that!
 
Run time: 04:01
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Posted on YouTube: April 04, 2008
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Posted on DU: April 05, 2008
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Firstly, I'm an Obama support.

Can somebody make a similar clip about Hillary. I find she's made a lot more mistakes/gaffs, especially her two faced stance on many issues.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:34 PM
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1. Good job on being fair.
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LawSource Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:24 PM
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14. NONE OF THIS IS BEING FAIR!!



I AM A HILLARY SUPPORTER in FLORIDA!!

NONE OF THIS IS BEING FAIR,because at best this video is misleading ! The Kennedy Air Lift issue is just the DATES Obama got incorrect! BIG difference from my Girl Hillary Bosnia embellishment which occurred on more than 3 separate occasions, was push as part of her foreign policy Experience!!

I UNDERSTAND what she was trying to accomplish, SHE HAS TO LOOK TOUGH and VERY EXPERIENCE in the ALL BOYS Club Arena!!

WITH REGARDS TO OBAMA and Pakistan, EVERYBODY laugh and ridicule him when he made the statement. However EARLIER THIS YEAR President Bush took his advise and TAKE OUT A TOP ALQUIDA Lieutenant and his base in Pakistan. SO THAT PART IN YOUR VIDEO IS Very Misleading because it does not ARRIVE AT or Highlight THE FACT!!

WITH REGARDS to Obama TAKING MONEY from oil and Gas Company is, NOT ONLY MISLEADING, BUT also VERY RECKLESSLY Misleading. Taking 50, or 100 dollars contribution via the internet etc from EMPLOYEES of Wal-Mart or the Oil and Gas Company IS NOT TAKING PAC’s or LOBBYSTS MONEY! Just to Give You A Hint, IF ANY OF THAT WAS FACT OBAMA WOULD BE FINISH!! THE MSM and my girl Hillary, would make this front and center going forward just like she did in Ohio and Texas with the NAFTA Spin, after it was Mark Penn who talk to the Canadian Gov.

We vote here in Florida for Clinton because we didn’t know much about Obama. If he becomes the nominee we all are willing to vote for and support our nominee. Therefore, when we put misleading information like that on tape it only hurt our democratic party nominee. I DON’T BELIEVE WHO EVER MADE THAT VIDEO Really Like or will vote for Sen. Obama!! MSNBC's Abrams is ever more neglegent in even broadcasting this on TV. A LOT OF WHAT HE DOES ON that show is reported with some measure of SPIN!!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:30 AM
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19. Hi, LawSource --
Welcome to DU!

I know some others are suspicious of your intent, but I believe you're being sincere in your post. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

:hi:
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LawSource Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:47 AM
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24. THANKS for the warm WELCOME!
Hi Gateley,

THANKS for the warm WELCOME!

I stumble up on this website by accident while searching Google. I saw the misleading video and had to respond. My family members are die hard Clinton supporters here in Florida. We all vote for Clinton because of the name recognition, none of us knew who the heck was Barack Obama. After watching and hearing Obama on the campaign trail, then we here Hillary recently say that the votes in Florida is FAIR, our support for her has wavered, because she is not being fair-minded. In addition, my family members along with some Clinton surrogates, drum up support for Clinton and I NEVER see or heard of one doing that for Obama. WE Still Love Her But She NEED TO STOP PLAY politics with the UNFAIR vote total here in Florida, it is likely to hurt she if she becomes the nominee.

The MAIN reason that get Florida Democrats to the polls, on January 29, was to vote on a PROPERTY TAX amendment to REDUCE our property taxes.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:43 PM
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2. First off

The airlift education for his father... he isn't relating something that happened to him directly but to his father. Second, his father DID come here on such an "airlift scholarship", but it wasn't sponsored by the Kennedys (any of them). They started sponsoring such a program one year after his father received such a scholarship.

And you are making some sort of equivalence between THIS misstatement and Hillary's first hand account of the Bosnia trip? You must be joking.

This one MAYBE is equivalent to Hillary's story about who she was named after (tying her to Sir Edmund Hillary)... and is one of those typical "family stories" that gets handed down to children from their parents, and the children accept it as gospel.

Last, are you SURE you are a Obama supporter when you post stuff like this?
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:00 PM
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7. And the baby comment was about using protection, NOT about abortion.
Also, regarding Wright, Obama said in an ABC Nightline interview before he gave his speech that Wright has said some controversial things, but he was NOT in church for the more offensive comments that have been repeated on TV ad nauseum.

A statement can be controversial without it being offensive and wrong.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:11 AM
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17. I'm thinking not even a Democrat
...or a progressive, or a liberal, or anything but a disruptor.

This is a first post? I call bullshit.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:11 AM
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18. Self-delete
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 01:12 AM by Spiffarino
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atal Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:45 AM
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23. of course I am
I'm looking for a strong rebuttal.

We're up against the Republicans next and I serious believe we need to start getting used to it and learning how to respond strongly to such attacks.


DU needs to start focusing on McCain.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:44 PM
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3. A mistake about a 50 year old program
is not the same thing as claiming something happened to you personally. I'm sure it would be very easy to read an article about the Kennedy's program and, with the dates so close, make the conclusion. So it looks like the Kenyan airlift of his father inspired the Kennedy program, that's nice too. Nothing like saying you're under sniper fire.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:51 PM
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4. K&R!!
thx!
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:51 PM
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5. ...btw..
well done! :)
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Limelight Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:59 PM
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6. Where to begin?
1. His father was indeed airlifted to this country, just the Kennedy's weren't the sponsors... though the did sponsor mean, just not that one. Misstatement or simple misunderstanding? 85% true as opposed to Hill's 99% untrue ratio.

2. He got $230,000 in money from gas and oil employees. I guess that is impressive. Or at least it would be if he hadn't raised $40 MILLION from small donors last month. Yeah, those employees are some of those donors (some of that money bundled together), but that's a drop in the bucket. Drop in the bucket money likely equals drop in the bucket influence.

3. He fibbed about stopping smoking.....*shrug*..... And? For the sake of argument let's say this was remotely important on the whole role model front. When's the last time any SAW him doing it?

4. Puninshment = Baby... Bad choice of words made, despite the nifty skipping of the video, 1 time. As opposed to lying about being shot at several times in several different places. Year and a half on the campaign trail speaking semi extemporaneously you're bound to say something you didn't really mean, but hard to believe you make "misstatements" about when someone was trying to kill you.

Seems like I got 'em all, but if I didn't I'll be back.
;-)
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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:38 PM
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8. Sir Edmund Hillary & Hillary's name
Hillary said she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary due to his everest conquest -- which took place a few years after her birth.

Big deal -- this stuff happens. Obama wasn't alive in 1959/1960 -- Bosnia Clinton was THERE.
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:31 PM
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9. You know that the Senator was talking about his FATHER right?
His father who had/has the same name? Yes saying it was Kennedy sponsored wasn't true but I think a fairly harmless misstatement and or repetition of family lore... but he was not saying HE was airlifted. Quite a different "misstatement" from stating that you landed under sniper fire and were hustled, heads down to the cars rather than engage in a welcoming ceremony - when there is video of you walking casually chatting with local teens and your daughter on that self same landing occasion.

oh and yeah the "gas and oil company" donation stuff? So if a bunch of people from my department give me checks and I hand 'em in does that mean the candidate has taken funds from a bundler representing the IT industry? Or Would that be the food manufacturers? The fact is he has raised the VAST majority of his money from individual donors. And he has stuck to a policy of not taking money from PACs and industry associations or registered lobbyists.

But Barrack Obama has made misstatements. He's not perfect. The question was are they "material?" My opinion is no. Others disagree.
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nonoxy9 Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 04:48 PM
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10. First lie: "I'm an Obama supporter..." Nice try, repeat ONE of Hillary's..
gaffs over and over, then find a few of Obama's and call it even.
Sorry, friend, but not even CLOSE!!!:puke:
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:20 PM
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11. Golly, with supporters like these
Who needs opponents? A flat-out hit piece like that is garbage, even to the extent that the closing suggests all these "Obama-offensives" occurred because he was jealous of Clinton's sniper story.

I've seen better attacks on candidates for Student Body President.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:22 PM
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12. WOW DID YOU READ THIS RELATED STORY----->
OBAMA HAS 5 LETTERS IN HIS NAME CRIME HAS 5 LETTERS IN THE WORD
OBAMA SOUNDS LIKE OSAMA OSAMA SOUNDS LIKE OBAMA
OBAMA HAS A BLACK BABY 8 YEARS AGO MCCAIN HAD A BLACK BABY
HUSSAIN IS OBAMA'S MIDDLE NAME HUSSAIN IS HUSSAIN'S LAST NAME
OBAMA ONCE PEED ON A BUSH OBAMA IS REPLACING A BURNING BUSH
O'BAMA SOUNDS IRISH MCCAIN SOUNDS STUPID
OBAMA ONCE CLIMBED A HILL OBAMA IS RUNNING AGAINST HILLARY
OBAMA ONCE PAID A BILL HILLARY'S HUSBAND IS BILLARY
OBAMA SAID "YES WE CAN" CHENEY SAID "KISS MY CAN"
OBAMA GAVE UP SMOKING BILL GAVE UP INHALING

......... WOW .... TO THINK HE DIDN'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC PERSON WHO PROMOTED THE PROGRAM WHICH BROUGHT HIS FATHER HERE.... BUT WITH ALL THESE OTHER THINGS GOING ON, WHO WOULD
VOTE FOR HIM ANYWAY

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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:46 PM
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13. And a few more Hillary's LIES you DON'T MENTION.
Give me a break ! Hillary CONCOCTED virtually and ENTIRE story. Obama's father WAS part of that program, he was honestly mistaken on the timing of the Kennedy involvement. Smoking? Give me a break ! Wright? He has said from the outset he knew that Wright could be controversial, and has disagreed with him in the past. He said he wasn't present for the YouTube comments but doesn't excuse them. He takes only INDIVIDUAL contributions, NOT PAC or LOBBYIST money. Smoking? Pretty funny. He has long said he has struggled with it and is working to get off it with nicotine gum and has so far been successful. Maybe he has lapsed for a ciggy or two. We don't know. Any photos of him smoking? Haven't seen any. Even so, it's a tough, tough habit to break. He deserves credit for trying so hard. It takes many people multiple tries to kick it for good.

Now for more SLICK HILLY's LIES told or lived! (Beyond Snipergate)

1) For NAFTA before against it.
2) "Working" for change rather than "hoping or fighting" for it is best, but NOW she's "fighting" for it. (stolen from Edwards)
3) Campaign lines stolen from Edwards.
4) Daughter was jogging around towers on 9/11, had to run for cover.
5) ALWAYS has been a Yankee fan. ????
6) Was for enforcing DNC rules, now against it.
7) Said votes in MI didn't didn't and wouldn't count, now says they do and should.
8) Said small, red, and caucus states don't matter, now goes to MI, WY, ND, and MT.
9) Says she helped create peace in Northern Ireland, but held ZERO negotiations.
10) Says she is more prepared to answer the phone at 3am, but can't explain how or why.

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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:57 PM
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15. That "punishment" reference is way out of context......listen to the whole statement...
He probably has said some things not 100% accurate. Wonder if YOU have said everything 100% accurate in the last year and a half? This guy, as well as Clinton and all the other earlier candidates, are swarmed over like bees to honey and every word that falls from their lips is taken up on video or audio and played back in snippets and in their entirety.

This is such meaningless bullshit. How about we focus on some stuff that matters...like "the surge is working", "enhanced interrogation", "no recession", "no tax cuts for the top 1%....oops, well, I guess we'll just keep those tax cuts now". Those seem to be a little more substantive than the nit picking that Obama and Clinton mentioned.

Nice to keep them honest, but give me a break. This is ridiculous!!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:41 AM
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16. finally some BALANCE!
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NM Independent Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:00 AM
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20. Seriously??
You are NO Obama supporter. Not even close, NObody is buying that.

If that's not a lying right wing smear attack, then I've never seen one.

You've already been fully debunked, so I'll just leave it at that.

Who are the 6 idiots that rec'd this (aside from the obvious two, of course)?
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:06 AM
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21. Clinton Trait
Ocober 2, 2002 - Obama delivers his speech entitled "Against Going to War in Iraq"

October 10, 2002 - Clinton votes for bill entitled "Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq"

Nafta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BrPZYbCdJ4

Bosnia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y

Ireland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCmKkLdCuA

October 11, 2007
Flashback: Does Michigan Matter to Clinton?

Hillary Clinton, during which she was asked about the Michigan primary:

"I personally did not think it made any difference, whether or not my name was on the ballot. You know, it's clear, in this election they're having, it is not going to count for anything."

http://www.youtube.com/user/MDRUDGE

HILLARY IS ONE BIG 'MIS'TAKE
Now Hillary denies that she denied she said Obama can't win.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04042008/news/nationalnews/...

Voting & Disenfranchising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_eBIpEuO4U

Feb 19, 2008:
Hillary Clinton says "speeches don't put food on the table!"

Bill's speeches sure as hell put food on their table! $51 Million Dollars worth

Anyone think that Hillary knew she was lying? or perhaps mis-spoke err maybe she forgot about the $51 Million. Ahh surprised

Hypocrisy exposed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ZbTM3QvV4

Horror Story err unvetted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq5BwOujrNQ
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:15 PM
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26. MrJJ - You forgot to preface your rebuttal with
I am a Clinton supporter but.....

;-)
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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:17 AM
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22. Let's fast forward to July
when we have only one nominee for president. Let's say you posted your little video on a democratic site. Do you think the readers would think it is cute or funny or informative? Or do you think the readers would assume you are a freeper troll?

Just sayin'
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Ralphdraw3 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 12:07 PM
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25. Still, GOING WITH OBAMA!!
Hillary -

LOUSY CAMPAIGN

LOUSY RECORD IN THE SENATE..

PHONY AND INSINCERE

TOO MANY LIES...
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