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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:27 AM
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TPMtv: Wall to Wall Ugly (debate)
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Koq6-UlLvo
 
Posted on YouTube: April 17, 2008
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Posted on DU: April 17, 2008
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:41 AM
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1. Can we beat the absolute hell out of Stephanopaulis and Gibson?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 10:42 AM by sasquatch
Like those teenage girls did in Florida?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:44 AM
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2. This video sounds like a 3rd degree investigation of a murder by two stupid detectives
and being prosecuted by an old girl that initiates and carries out a legal action, with the experience of an alley cat.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:00 AM
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3. Disguisting
That was the most disguisting thing I have ever seen in my life. I am trying to hold back the puke but it's very hard.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:07 AM
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4. The debate was a right wing hack job on both Democratic candidates.
It was awful. It was unfair. And it is exactly what we are going to see form now until November.

But the worst is -- both Obama and Hillary failed the test.

Obama is a nice guy but he is weak. He gets a deer in the headlights look when asked a difficult question. His answer that Americans don't want this kind of debate sounds evasive. Why? Because he does not return the nasty spirit in which it is delivered. His energy is way off. I don't think Obama would be much good in hand to hand combat. He does not seem to be able to answer force with force. That will hurt him if he is the nominee. We don't want a president with a temper that is out of control, however, we do want a president who can show fighting spirit when he needs to. Obama does not seem to be able to answer a dig with strength. He is just too nice.

As for Hillary. There is one like her in every first grade class. The brainy tattle-tell. The one who bullies all the other kids by constantly pointing out: Teacher, Johnny pulled my hair. Teacher, Mary didn't cross her t when she wrote cat. Oh, and she is a brown-noser too: Teacher, can I wipe the board? Teacher, can I sit next to you? It isn't just that you don't trust her. You can't stand her. She has an exaggerated view of her perfection. And, it's all about her. Here, it's all about Hillary, and Hillary firmly believes she is smarter than anyone else. Talk about elitist. Oh boy that's the pot calling the kettle black. And the Republicans are going to seize on this issue and throw it right back on Clinton. She walked into a trap when she threw the elitist label at Obama.

Where's John Edwards? He was the only one of our candidates who would have shamed the ABC hacks by sharply returning the subject to what is on the minds of the American people -- jobs, health care and all the other things that matter to us. Both Obama and Hillary failed this test. Neither of them was able to deal with the assault of the ABC hacks -- which, ugly as it was, pretty well foretells just what the right wing is going to do to either of these two when the campaign really starts heating up. The candidates should have shown some spark of anger at the tenor of the questions. But not anger at the personal affront, anger at the fact that the moderators were talking about trivia when the nation faces serious issues. Obama lacks temper. Hillary is self-centered.

Unless we go back to the boards and draft John Edwards, we will lose in November. Sure, the questions were unfair and stupid, but just wait till the Republicans start stealing headlines with their smears. Obama will start stuttering and fall apart. Hillary will fight back but alienate the majority of voters in the process.

We need John Edwards.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:26 PM
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9. TOTALLY disagree with your take on Obama. To the contrary, I think he is very strong.
HIs comments that Americans don't want this kind of debate is RIGHT ON! I thought he showed a great deal of strength last night, in the face of such inanity. And I think it was a good show for the SuperD's to see who exactly is more electable under the spotlights of the idiotic shallow MSM. Clearly he is the one who has the most respect for the intelligence of the American people. This is a winner.


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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:15 AM
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5. What a disgrace... What grace
Obama had.
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:30 AM
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6. OMG! Obama for Pres. bc I would have snapped in the situation and choked a Bitch!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:05 PM
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7. I don't know who won the debate, but Gibson and Stephanopoulos are real losers
I see a couple of candidates trying to talk about issues when the moderators insisted they talk trash.
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JDwho Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 12:15 PM
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8. This was no debate. Where were the real issues?????!!!!!
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