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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:28 PM
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Afghans to probe whether U.S. used mini nukes
 
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Based on http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/ISL146529.htm thanks to the DUER who put up the post

KABUL, April 19 (Reuters) - The Afghan government plans to investigate whether the United States used depleted uranium during its invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 and if it might be linked to malformed babies born afterwards.

Parts of Afghanistan, particularly the mountainous region of Tora Bora in the east -- the suspected hideout of al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden -- came under heavy U.S. bombing in late 2001 when the Taliban regime was ousted.

Depleted uranium is a heavy metal used in some weapons that can pierce armour. It has small levels of radioactivity associated with it.

Cases of malformed babies delivered in the heavily bombed Afghan areas have come to light, Faizullah Kakar, Afghan deputy public health minister for technical affairs said on Saturday, citing an unnamed U.S. expert.

Kakar told Reuters the Afghan government planned to investigate the matter.
more...

I added some other info that has come out from other sources:)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:36 PM
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No need to probe -
 
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I would bet everything I own that the birth defects are a result of these "relatively safe" bombs.

I had no idea that the U.S. was doing this - although I'm not surprised.

I remember a Deep Space Nine episode when Quark was traveling to earth. When they entered our atmosphere all hell broke lose with alarms sounding. Somebody said it was a radiation alarm. Quark said "That's ridiculous! There must be an alarm malfunction. No intelligent race would introduce radioactivity into their atmosphere!"

Bushco - NOT members of an "intelligent race".

This makes me beyond furious.




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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:42 PM
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2. why did Republicans change the rules on Nukes??? in 2001
they are using the minimal uranium that UN has placed on the world but how would anybody know if they used a wee bit more????
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:55 PM
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8. I know!
But some Dems must have weighed in on it too (unless this was a Bush 'override').

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:58 PM
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10. Well now Gately thats one helluva great question who in
2001 changed the restrictions...I would bet on Liberman :)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:55 PM
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27. Yeah - that's the name that popped into my head, too.
Can we kick him out of the party? It's not like he's doing anything remotely Democratic (Big D) anyway.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:04 PM
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28. Where are the Democrats on this issue thats your question
and one wonders where Obama and Hillary stand???
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:16 PM
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36. Think about it NATO has depleted uranium UN troops do
and US troops do if they don't let me know guys

what a dilema for the UN
Afghanistan is where their troops have participated with US troops
probably US supplied the weapons or did other countries like Britain

So US isn't the only culprit here

This is a ticking timebomb and also Iraq is with the Coalition of the Willing

the coalition of the stupid scmucks

there are lots of hands wrapped around Depleted Uranium and its NOT just the US
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:36 PM
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1. Puppet investigating the Puppet Master?
Good luck there.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:45 PM
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4. well the puppets have to live there and notice US is getting
quite weak in that region the taliban is taking back Afghanistan and what better tool to use against US is to tell the natives

the US nuked them and thats why their children are dying

Afghanistan is turning my friends and notice how our allies and NATO are decreasing troops

maybe they have been getting sick troops back home???
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:01 PM
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11. Google: "depleted uranium extreme birth defects" caution graphic photos of effects of WMD's...ours
about 16% of births in Iraq have extreme birth defects.. due to the total chaos, there are no stats on misscarriages caused by heavy metal uranium poisining. we have dumped about 2600 tons

http://www.greenleft.org.au/2004/566/33194

http://www.rawcuisine.co.uk/consciousness-and-our-changing-world/depleted-uranium/

http://www.peaceworkmagazine.org/pwork/0204/020411.htm
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:16 PM
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17. Where do you want it Yucca Mountain?
Sorry that was the "Neocon" in me talking. It makes me sick just thinking about how this is OK with some people.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:10 PM
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15. Yes , there seems to be an awakening.
If we could get some spine back in the U.N., and do some "coalition of the willing" investigation?
Soon , hopefully before the passage of the Carbon Laws (oil war) in Iraq , they will start to investigate such matters. Maybe Colin Powell could make amends?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:42 PM
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3. Paranoia and hysteria are more fun than facts and reality
But paranoia and hysteria are not reliable evidence.

Ah, but who cares, paranoia and hysteria are just more fun!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:49 PM
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6. Facts hmmm Why did the Republicans in 2001 change rules on
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:36 PM by lovuian
Nukes Fact there are "low yield B61 11 tactical bombs"

aren't there??? Remember Rumsfeld and the News talking about the Mother of Bombs

Hysteria or is it fact
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:57 PM
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9. Are you aware that
Every time a nuclear device explodes on this planet, the US knows about it within seconds.

Do you believe that the US is the only country to have that technology? Of course not! The Russians, the Chinese, the French, the Italians, the Indians, the Germans, and the Brits all have that technology.

Do you believe that the Russians, Chinese, French, Italians, Indians, Germans, and Brits are all keeping quiet to protect the US?

That's just fucking nuts. That's paranoia and hysteria. And you don't seem to be rational enough to see through it. You have my sympathy, but certainly not my support.

Hope you get to feeling better.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:04 PM
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12. Well if you read or watched the video they are using mini nukes
they don't register like the Big enchilada thats why we used them

we tested them in Desert Storm and got away with it and then did it again same group did it too

there was a 1994 banned research on development of nuclear bombs of less than 5 kilotons and Republicans changed that law in 2001

WHY??? because they wanted the Bunker Busters

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:08 PM
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14. Take your choice




Looks like you are one or the other.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:28 PM
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20. In 2003 the Netherlands Parliament discussed their concern
over sending their troops into Iraq
1,100 Dutch troops in Kuwait prepare to enter Iraq as part of the U.S./British-led occupation forces. The Dutch are concerned about the danger of radioactive poisoning and radiation sickness in Iraq.

http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du-warcrime.htm

Washington has assured the Dutch government that it used no DU weapons near Al-Samawah, the town where Dutch troops will be stationed. But Dutch journalists and anti-war forces have already found holes in the U.S. stories according to an article on the Radio Free Europe website. The original expose came from M.H.J. van den Berg of RISQ "the Review of International Social Questions" and was picked up by the Dutch media.

DU-caused radiation had already raised alarms in Europe after studies showed increased rates of cancers, respiratory ailments and other disabilities of occupation troops from NATO countries stationed in Bosnia, Kosovo and Afghanistan.

In general, the health and environmental dangers of weapons made with DU radioactive waste have received far more attention in Europe than in the U.S.

In this year's war on Iraq, the Pentagon used its radioactive arsenal mainly in the urban centers, rather than in desert battlefields as in 1991. Many hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people and U.S. soldiers, along with British, Polish, Japanese and Dutch soldiers sent to join the occupation, will suffer the consequences. The real extent of injuries, chronic illness, long-term disabilities and genetic birth defects won't be apparent for five to 10 years.
more

half of all the 697,000 U.S. soldiers involved in the 1991 war have reported serious illnesses. According to the American Gulf War Veterans Association, more than 30 percent of these soldiers are chronically ill and are receiving disability benefits from the Veterans Administration. Such a high occurrence of various symptoms has led to the illnesses being named Gulf War Syndrome.
Poppy Bush used it to destroy the supposed caches of chemical gas there... He told the World community it was the only way
they were testing it even then

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:35 PM
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23. Since I actually studied this in college
I can say with absolute certainty that you are full of shit.

But that's OK, you are amusing.

Those of us who actually studied this in college are generally tired of feeling sorry for dunmfucks who keep bringing this shit up. We are now just amused. Yep, you are amusing, but not rational.

Good luck with that education thing, I'm sure you will find it helpful if you ever get one.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:38 PM
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24. Hey Well then the world is safe and all is well
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:39 PM by lovuian
So you don't need to worry then do you?

Hey can I aks you what college???

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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 07:11 AM
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32. You are the one with your head up your ass friend.. sorry for YOU.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:11 PM
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16. why the bloody hell do you think anyone here would even want your support.,? i would be ashamed to .
to be considered your peer. do you ever do any research.?? engage your brain before running your mouth

http://www.peaceworkmagazine.org/pwork/0204/020411.htm
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:18 PM
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18. Your lack of education is amusing, but not helpful
You should know that depleted uranium is LESS hazardous than naturally occurring uranium found in granite outcrops from Texas to the "Granite State" of New Hampshire.

But like I say, paranoia and hysteria are just more fun! A lot more fun than education.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:30 PM
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21. The reporter's Geiger counter registered nearly 1,000 times normal background radiation.
Scott Peterson, a staff writer for the Christian Science Moni tor, reported on May 15 about taking Geiger counter readings at several sites in Baghdad. Near the Republican Palace where U.S. troops stood guard and over 1,000 employees walked in and out of the building, his radiation readings were the "hottest" in Iraq, at nearly 1,900 times background radiation levels. Spent shell casings still littered the ground.

http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du-warcrime.htm

The Aug. 4 Seattle Post Intelligencer reported elevated radiation levels at six sites from Basra to Baghdad. One destroyed tank near Baghdad had 1,500 times the normal background radiation. "The Pentagon and the United Nations estimate that the U.S. and Britain used 1,100 to 2,200 tons of armor-piercing shells made of depleted uranium during attacks on Iraq in March and April--far more than the 375 tons used in the 1991 Gulf War," wrote the Post Intelligencer.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:40 PM
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25. And what isotope was that they measured?
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:42 PM by cosmik debris
Do you have any evidence that it was depleted uranium?

Spent shell casings did not carry DU. The DU went on/with the projectile.

Once again you are amusing, but not rational.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:51 PM
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26. Watch the US Army Training Video which US soldiers don't see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U93PBZIyqBs This video made for our troops in
he training materials were intended to instruct servicemen and women about the use and hazards of depleted uranium munitions. In addition, the training regimen included instructions for soldiers who repair and recover vehicles contaminated by depleted uranium.

Throughout 1996, these videos sat on a shelf, while U.S. soldiers continued to use and work with depleted uranium munitions. In June 1997, Bernard Rostker, The Department of Defense (DoD) principle spokesperson for their investigation of Gulf War hazardous exposures, stated that the depleted uranium safety training program would begin to be shared by a limited number of servicemen and women in July 1997.

STILL TODAY the vast majority of servicemen and women in the U.S. military, and likely in the armed forces of other countries which are developing or have obtained depleted uranium munitions, are unaware of the use and dangers of depleted uranium munitions, or of the protective clothing and procedures which can minimize or prevent serious short-term exposures.

It was found on the shelves of the Military never showed to our troops


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3581.htm

Between October and December 1995, the U.S. Army's Depleted Uranium (DU) Project completed a series of training videos and manuals about depleted uranium munitions. This training regimen was developed as the result of recommendations made in the January 1993 General Accounting Office (GAO) report, "Army Not Adequately Prepared to Deal with Depleted Uranium Contamination."

The training materials were intended to instruct servicemen and women about the use and hazards of depleted uranium munitions. In addition, the training regimen included instructions for soldiers who repair and recover vehicles contaminated by depleted uranium.

Throughout 1996, these videos sat on a shelf, while U.S. soldiers continued to use and work with depleted uranium munitions. In June 1997, Bernard Rostker, The Department of Defense (DoD) principle spokesperson for their investigation of Gulf War hazardous exposures, stated that the depleted uranium safety training program would begin to be shared by a limited number of servicemen and women in July 1997.

STILL TODAY the vast majority of servicemen and women in the U.S. military, and likely in the armed forces of other countries which are developing or have obtained depleted uranium munitions, are unaware of the use and dangers of depleted uranium munitions, or of the protective clothing and procedures which can minimize or prevent serious short-term exposures.
more...
they talk about Metal toxicity and radiation and talks about inhaling dust and eating it if you don't wash your hand
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digidigido Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. It must be comforting to know so much. The patronizing arrogance that
comes with it leaves something to be desired however. Do you think you
could be more condescending?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:48 PM
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34. i actually un blocked that asshole.... but he's back in the box now..
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:13 AM
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30. But does anyone breath in substantial amounts of minute particles of the uranium
from granite outcrops deep into his/her lungs?


The Health Effects of DU weapons in Iraq by Thomas Fasy MD PhD of Mount Sinai Medical School, New York.

Dr. Fasy is an Associate Clinical Professor of Pathology at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City. He has longstanding interests in carcinogenesis and environmental toxicology. In the past two years, he has lectured at conferences and university campuses on the toxic effects of inhaling uranium oxide dusts derived from depleted uranium weapons.

By the early 1900s, uranium was well recognized to be a kidney toxin. By the mid-1940s, uranium was known to be a neurotoxin. By the early 1970s, uranium was recognized to be a carcinogen based on mortality studies of uranium workers and on experiments with dogs and monkeys. The first evidence that uranyl ions bind to DNA was reported in 1949 and by the early 1990s, uranium was shown to be a mutagen. Also, in the early 1990s, uranium was shown to be a teratogen, that is, an inducer of birth defects. The toxic effects of uranium on the kidney and on the nervous system typically occur within days of exposure and radiation probably plays little or no role in mediating these effects. In contrast, the carcinogenic effects of uranium have a delayed onset. The teratogenic effects of uranium might be due to exposure of one parent prior to conception as well as to exposure of the mother to uranium early in pregnancy.

Now let us briefly consider the routes of exposure to uranium. In the context of the dust particles derived from depleted uranium weapons, this means exposure to uranium oxides. By far the most dangerous route of exposure to uranium oxides is the inhalational or respiratory route. Absorption of uranium oxides through the gastrointestinal tract, the skin and the conjunctivae is possible but quite limited.

Following impact with hard targets, uranium metal undergoes combustion releasing large quantities of very small uranium oxide dust particles into the environment.

These dust particles derived from depleted uranium weapons are drastically different from the natural uranium that is normally present in rocks and soil.

Soil particles contain uranium at very low concentrations, typically less than 5 parts per million; the vast majority of these soil particles, however, are too large to be inhaled deep into the lungs. In contrast, the dust particles derived from depleted uranium weapons contain very high concentrations of uranium, typically more than 500.000 parts per million; moreover, most of the D.U. dust particles are sufficiently small to be inhaled deep into the lungs. Thus,compared to the uranium naturally present in the environment, D.U. dust contains uranium in a form that is vastly more bio-available and more readily internalized.

Uranyl ions bind to DNA; they bind in the minor groove of DNA. While bound to DNA, uranyl ions are chemically reactive and can give rise to free radicals which may damage DNA. Chemically mediated DNA damage of this type may contribute to the ability of uranium to induce cancers.

I would now like to present some epidemiologic data from the Basra governate in the south of Iraq. In February 1991, more than 300 tons (possibly much more than 300 tons) of D.U. weapons were used in South of Iraq. After 5-6 year latent periods, increases in childhood cancers and birth defects were documented in the Basra governate. The most recent data indicate a four fold increase in pediatric malignancies and a seven fold increase in congenital malformations compared to 1990, the year preceeding the war.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4124449



Uranium’s Effect On DNA Established
by Kate Melville

The use of depleted uranium in munitions and weaponry is likely to come under intense scrutiny now that new research that found that uranium can bind to human DNA. The finding will likely have far-reaching implications for returned soldiers, civilians living in what were once war-zones and people who might live near uranium mines or processing facilities.

Uranium - when manifested as a radioactive metal - has profound and debilitating effects on human DNA. These radioactive effects have been well understood for decades, but there has been considerable debate and little agreement concerning the possible health risks associated with low-grade uranium ore (yellowcake) and depleted uranium.

Now however, Northern Arizona University biochemist Diane Stearns has established that when cells are exposed to uranium, the uranium binds to DNA and the cells acquire mutations, triggering a whole slew of protein replication errors, some of which can lead to various cancers. Stearns' research, published in the journals Mutagenesis and Molecular Carcinogenesis, confirms what many have suspected for some time - that uranium can damage DNA as a heavy metal, independently of its radioactive properties. "Essentially, if you get a heavy metal stuck on DNA, you can get a mutation," Stearns explained. While other heavy metals are known to bind to DNA, Stearns and her team were the first to identify this characteristic with uranium.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20060307010324data_trunc_sys.shtml



RESENTATION TO THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT (23 June 2005)

Keith Baverstock PhD; Department of Environmental Sciences, University of Kuopio, KUOPIO, Finland

I have, during a career of some 30 years, developed expertise in evaluating risks regarding the environmental and occupational exposure to ionising radiation and radioactive materials in many different situations. I have done this in the context of employment by the UK Medical Research Council (1971 to 1991) and the European Regional Office of the World Health Organisation (1991 to 2003), both ostensibly "independent" organisations.

Between 2000 and 2002 I examined the evidence relating to risks from the mildly radioactive depleted uranium. My concern was especially raised by the specific exposure context of inhalation of the dust particles produced when a depleted uranium munition impacts a hardened target and burns, producing fine particles of DU oxide (DUO). This material has no natural analogue and does not arise in the normal refining and processing of uranium for nuclear fuel. There is, therefore, no prior experience of exposure to this material than its use in Iraq in 1991.

According to the International Commission for Radiological Protection (ICRP), inhaled DUO would pose a hazard to the lung from radiation if it were insoluble and a chemical toxicity risk to the kidney (physiological toxicity of kidney malfunction) if it were soluble.

DUO is in fact part insoluble and part sparingly soluble. Since 1998 evidence has accrued that human cells exposed in the laboratory to low concentrations of DU exhibit changes characteristic of malignant cells and indeed, when implanted into host animals, will lead to malignancy. In these experiments it seems unlikely, given the low concentrations and the experimental conditions, that this effect is mediated by radiation, but is rather a chemically mediated genotoxicity. (See for example 1-6 The non-radioactive element, nickel, produces similar effects and is an established carcinogen.

In 2001 this evidence led me to believe that inhaled DUO particles, which are capable of penetrating the deep lung (where they would be retained for long periods) posed, for a period of weeks to months, not only a radiotoxicity risk but also a chemical genotoxicity risk and potentially a synergy between the two. Thus any risk evaluated on the basis of the ICRP recommendations would be likely to underestimate the true risk.

http://www.grassrootspeace.org/keith_baverstock_23june05.htm

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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:36 AM
Response to Reply #18
31. Education goes beyond one thing you read somewhere.
To date, up to 30 percent of some 30,000 wartime Hadzici residents have died of various cancers, tumors and heart attacks, according to official statistics. Only in Bratunac, the only town to have kept track of possible depleted uranium illnesses, out of 4,500 wartime Hadzici residents who fled to Bratunac, nearly 1,000 of them died of illnesses believed to be related to depleted uranium exposure.


http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=18290


Do tell, did 30% of the Texas and New Hampshire populations die to cancers and tumors in the last 10 years?
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #18
33. Wow you're a jerk! Everyone else is coming up with researched information
and you're just shooting off at the mouth. Did you answer the question what college and by the way what degree? You sound more like a pro Bush pro war plant to me!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #18
35. i have an IQ of 164, i was a research technician ar Shell Research Corporation,.. i have previously
stated that it is the HEAVY METAL TOXICITY, and i suspect that your information came from tainted sources, checl the following link

http://www.idust.net/index_files/page0009.htm

here is some tragic evidence.. do you want names and addresses
http://www.uksociety.org/us_crimes_against-humanity_1.htm

http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. link>> did anyone explain to you that being a Nay Sayer isn't the least bit objective either.?link>
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:48 PM
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5. Google: "depleted uranium extreme birth defects" caution graphic photos of effects of WMD's...ours
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:52 PM
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7. US DOD talked about use of fission and low yield and
non fission cave busters

Afghanistan was a testing ground for these Cave busters

They needed the uranium to penetrate the rock
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:19 PM
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19. Yeah, the US has been dropping du in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:22 PM by PDJane
It was used in Bosnia too.

Google Maj. Doug Rokke and listen to/read what he has to say. Major Rokke was the guy charged with the clean up of DU after the first Gulf war.

Great way to get rid of the need to store the stuff.....just drop it all around the planet and see what happens.

Shit, people. This is OLD news; it's been around for years and years.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:33 PM
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22. Agreed its old news
The Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle analyzed swabs from bullet holes in Iraqi tanks and confirmed elevated radiation levels.

British Defense even said they needed to get their troops out
that they sent Prince harry over there was just a way to show everybody see even our Prince will fight there

Afghanistan even with all their bombs still they are losing
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 07:02 PM
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37. estimated 2600 tons, 160 Hiroshima era nukes,, its the Heavy Metal Toxicity also
http://www.idust.net/index_files/page0009.htm

there are graphic photos of what depleted uranium, our WMD, is doing in iraq, about 16% of reported births.. i believe most aren't reported, because of the cultural stigma, no word on miscarriages.. mental retardation
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=depleted+uranium+birth+defects&btnG=Google+Search
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