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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:38 AM
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American Troops Going Insane
 
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Only for the strong hearted.

If you aren't trying to end this war, why not?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:49 AM
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1. I've seen the clip about the water. Very disturbing. And you asked a very good question.
Why aren't we?! Bush* keeps saying that wee have to stay until we "win." What exactly does that mean and what would we have "won?" *sigh* We just need to end it. It's way long past time. ;( K&R.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:36 AM
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3. What would we have won?
Very good question.

A better question: what are we losing?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:49 AM
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2. Recommended
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:37 AM
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4. Hmmm. I wonder what IVAW thinks about this. IMO, some
of these guys are missing a compassion gene; maybe they were insane before they got there. These are not the actions of sane people, and I'm not sure it's the war's fault.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:42 AM
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5. It came to me in a mass email
that went to several IVAW members as well. I wondered the same thing but after hearing what they had to say at Winter Soldier, I am wondering if they wouldn't be surprised by this.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:45 AM
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6. they are scraping the bottom of the barrel. a criminal record used to keep you
out of the "all volunteer professional" army. now they take all kinds of losers. including convicted criminals. then when they are done with them, they say, oh, we noticed you have borderline personality disorder. that's your problem. you already had that, so you are not our problem. (bpd is basically what you said, bs, no compassion, no empathy, probably genetic, or at least developmental. iow, they had it when they recruited them.)

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:48 AM
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7. i can't watch this, but i want to say- bill ayers and the weathermen
threw themselves on the gears of the war machine, and were willing to pay any price to do so. and look how they are regarded now. they are pariah even here.
but that war DID stop, and because the people rose up. that is what it takes, people. no number of nice folks in the free speech zone is gonna make a dent.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:56 AM
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8. Excellent point
:)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:41 AM
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12. exactly
they can shove those free speech zones, every part of the US should be a free speech zone, these thugs have destroyed this country, and WE THE PEOPLE should not remain silent.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:47 AM
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13. .


till we loose our manners, they will run this country.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:31 PM
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9. No programs in place
and thousands of soldiers in varying states of instability are coming home. They at least deserve to be deprogrammed and receive treatment for being so abused.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:46 PM
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11. Yes we need to do better
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:30 PM
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10. "Our souls are broken."
Why does Michelle Obama hate America?

Flag pins, anyone?
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:50 PM
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14. As a veteran, this kind of shit pisses me right the fuck off...
...these jack asses, who equal less than 1 percent of the people over there, are really fucking things up for those who are out there doing a good job and trying to make a difference. That puppy stunt was just evil. I really can't think of any other way to put it.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:27 AM
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17. Yep just these few idiots are screwing over 99% of the troops
who are helping people,but most importantly the rest of the world see's this
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 01:37 PM
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15. The Collective Unconcious has rules and one is killing is
wrong and when you do it and often it causes a self destructive mechanism to start up

this is what the Republican Party agenda started
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:28 PM
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16. Comparing them to nazis is a weeeeee bit of a stretch
Making fun of the locals is not the same as rounding them up and executing them. The puppy thing was evil though, but that is being investigated.

If you take a bunch of 19 year olds and put them in that situation, naturally they won't all act professionally.

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:47 AM
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18. I consider myself to have a pretty calloused soul. I'm not easily moved,
But this kind of shit is sickening. These guys should be in prison. Tormenting children? Throwing puppies to their death? This is the type of thing we're supposed to support? This is the type of shit that we are being called traitors for not getting behind? Fuck that. I don't want these people back in the States.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:44 AM
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19. kick
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