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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:54 PM
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Howard Wolfson: Andrew Isn't Really From Indiana
 
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As if we needed another reason to despise that smarmy little bastard Wolfson --

Wolfson: I'm Not Sure That Joe Andrew Is "Actually From Indiana"
By Greg Sargent - May 1, 2008, 2:40PM

A bit of an odd exchange on MSNBC just now: Howard Wolfson was asked by Andrea Mitchell to respond to former DNC chair Joe Andrew's switch to Obama.

Wolfson seemed to suggest that Andrew isn't really from Indiana, but Hillary is really from New York...

Wolfson: Well, I'm not sure by the way that he's actually from Indiana. I know he's originally from Indiana, but --

Mitchell: Well it's sort of like Hillary Clinton being from Illinois, or New York, or Scranton, or Arkansas --

Wolfson: No, she lives in New York, and so when she -- she's a senator from New York, so she's from New York.

Parsing this a bit, it would appear to mean that you're not actually from a state if you were born there, but you are from a state if you moved there in your early fifties to get elected Senator.

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:57 PM
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1. So... He doesn't count?
Man oh man, is the Clinton campaign just brutal.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:58 PM
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3. That's their MO. If you support Obama, you don't count. NT
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:57 PM
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2. Even Wolfson knows that he said something that makes no sense
You could kinda tell from his stammering afterwards that he didn't really mean what he just said.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:58 PM
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4. Hey Howard, no offense but you dont have room to talk.....
Edited on Thu May-01-08 01:59 PM by DJ13
.......considering Hillary has growning up in about 10 different states so far in this campaign.
:rofl:
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:44 AM
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11. LMAO
:rofl:
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:04 PM
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5. Andrew ran for governor of Indiana in 2003! Not from Indiana?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:25 PM
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10. Andrew ran for Governor "briefly"
It was so brief, the notation of his Gubernatorial bid is not even mentioned in his Wiki.. So, finding someone willing to make the sacrifice and step out showing Obama is still receiving support in spite of his campaign imploding, Joe Andrews was chosen to stem the collateral damage. Which brings up another point:

This from your link:

"But the Andrew endorsement is no small thing, since it potentially demonstrates that the spate of bad news that's buffeted Obama of late hasn't stopped some establishment Dems from seeing him as the better nominee."

It's as obvious as the nose on anyone's face, the campaign is closing ranks and circling the wagons. The Obama campaign is attempting to blunt the damage done by Wright when he basically called Obama a liar when he said: "Politicians are not preachers. Politicians will say and do anything to get elected, preachers are accountable to God."

Where are all the statements of support from the "Thunder thuds" who backed him in January?

I am not alone asking this question. Where is a statement of support from Teddy, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean?

Here is an article reflecting exactly this point:

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Where are Obama's friends now?

Remember way back on January 10, 2008, when Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) endorsed Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) at a campaign rally in Charleston, S.C.? Remember when, during that endorsement, Sen. Kerry "argued that Obama had the experience to lead the country," that Obama "'brings the lessons of the neighborhood, the lessons of the legislature and the lessons of his own life to that awesome challenge' of filling the Oval Office."


Does anyone wonder now if, when Sen. Kerry brought up those "lessons" that Sen. Obama would bring with him to the White House, was he thinking at all about the unsavory, un-American, hate-filled baggage that Sen. Obama was going to bring with him?

Back in January 2008, other than Fox News cable talk show hosts Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly, who was paying attention to the likes of Sen. Obama's favorite pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright? Or to Father Michael Pfleger? Who out there on the television networks had even heard of the neighborhood and political connections between Sen. Obama and former domestic terrorist, Weather Underground leader William Ayers, and his companion in crime, Bernadine Dohrn? Or that Sen. Obama attended political events with Rashid Khalidi or Edward Said?

Who besides Chicago newspapers and local television stations was fully aware of the city's penchant for dirty politics, backroom dealing, and the power of the "Chicago Combine"? Who else was so fully aware of indicted political fixer Antoin "Tony" Rezko's behind-the-scenes involvement in Illinois pay-to-play with the state's governor, Rod Blagojevich? Who else knew that there was a questionable real estate transaction in 2005 somehow hammered out between Tony Rezko, his wife, Rita Rezko, and Sen. Obama?

Who besides Illinois political insiders knew that Sen. Obama had supported Tony Rezko, his friend and political benefactor, in his efforts to lure Iraqi-British billionaire businessman Nadhmi Auchi into a multi-million dollar investment in a 62-acre downtown Chicago development? Or wined and dined with Aiham Alsammarae, Rezko friend and fellow businessman wanted by the Iraqi government for the theft of $650 million of Iraqi reconstruction funds?

Who was paying attention besides a handful of bloggers to the fact that Sen. Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ, had honored Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan or that Sen. Obama's official campaign website hosted a page for the New Black Panther Party and other hate-filled posters?

Now that the real Sen. Barack Obama is being revealed nightly on the news, daily in both the print and online newspapers, and on blogs 24/7, who is paying attention?

And, should all this diversified media coverage have actually grabbed the attention of Sen. Obama's supporters, either voters or superdelegates or members of the Democratic Party elite, where are they now? Why are they not coming to his aid now that all the bad news is spreading like a wildfire?

http://www.rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/rezkowatch-rant-where-are-obamas.html
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:06 PM
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6. I guess carpetbagging in NY counts more than birthplace
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:20 PM
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7. This is another reason..
why I can't stand Hillary, they lie and lie and lie right in our faces...
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BigD_95 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:50 PM
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8. thats freaking awesome...LOL
Mitchell: Well it's sort of like Hillary Clinton being from Illinois, or New York, or Scranton, or Arkansas --

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:48 PM
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9. Why is everything so complicated to Obamacons?
Hillary was born in Parkridge, IL. Her family owned a summer house in Pennsylvania where her Dad was born and raised. The spent every summer during her childhood at their Lake House in PA. When she married Bill Clinton, she moved to AK and lived there until her husband was elected to the presidency. Subsequent to the presidency, they moved to NY where she ran for the US Senate.

What in the world is so puzzling to you?
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