Fake Video of Mickey Kantor Slamming Indiana Voters Proven to Be a HOAX, Made From a 1992 Video.

[anonymeme]

Run time: 01:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmAylYyPkiw   Posted on YouTube: May 03, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: May 05, 2008 By DU Member: anonymeme Views on DU: 963

 
How could anyone have believed that ugly, disgusting fake of a video with its dubbed slurs in the first place?!

How ignorant and gullible are the voters in this country?

Well, actually, I guess that's fairly evident

There just are not words to cover the slime who tried to use this video against Hillary.

[DrDan]

1. "There just are not words to cover the slime who tried to use this video against Hillary"

or for those who are so quick to believe the words - simply because they want to. And this site has more than its share.

and I am not a Hillary supporter - just sick of these tactics.

[anonymeme]

4. DrDan.

Thank You!

Your response is a pleasant surprise and extremely fair and even-handed.

I genuinely appreciate it.

[jettison]

5. And the very next post is an over the top "Obama is scum"

retort. Perfect. Hey Hillary folks... call us when the shuttle lands. We'll be in the White House, on the red phone.

FYI, the maker of the video itself is actually quite disgusting. However, considering the politics in this country, I'm very capable of believing that folks from either campaign are capable of nefarious tactics, ugly rhetoric, and underhandedness. Certainly, the robocalls in NC prove that to be true.

[anonymeme]

10. jettison...

Those robocalls were none of Hillary's doing they are done by a guy who calls himself Rob Morrow and he has used them against Hillary here in SC, too.

He's a kind of political troll. He likes to make hash of the political system and prides himself on it. As long as he can make political division and upheaval, he's happy as a pig in... slop!

He got access to Ron Paul's calling system called Advokit and used it to make these calls in SC.

I reported him to the FBI, because in his openers to the calls here, he falsely impersonated an FBI agent making these calls.

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[snappyturtle]

3. Me thinks it smells more Rovian than anything else. n/t

[anonymeme]

9. snappy...

You could be right. It certainly has that Rovian odor.

But from the minute I started posting here a few months ago, I was stunned at the way the Obama people -- and honestly way too many of them -- had adopted the same tactics to use against Hillary -- who is one of our own and has been a soldier and a rock for the party -- that the Right-Wingers have used against all of us Democrats for a long time.

I couldn't believe they were doing that, using those tactics of slash and burn, smear and slur against Hillary and her supporters that the RWs use.

It was an eye-opening disappointment at best.

[anonymeme]

6. Jim...

Well, a lot of Obama's fans seem to act in a scummy fashion, but I'm guessing -- especially with DrDan's response that there are at least some decent supporters on both sides of the Democratic divide.

But I fully understand your comments.

Thank you.

[iamthebandfanman]

8. way to win voters!

ope i forget! hillary doesnt care about us internet activists anyway.

[Barrymores Ghost]

11. Wow, now that's classy.

Guess we should all be following your example, then?
:eyes:

[iamthebandfanman]

7. why would they believe it?

youre right, cause hillary has ran such an upstanding and moral campaign...

:sarcasm:

[anonymeme]

12. iamthebandfanman, I'm Sorry You're Such a Fool & I Won't Waste My Time Answering Your Nonsense.

[iamthebandfanman]

22. but yet you wasted so much

just by typing that.

good day to you ;)

[Barrymores Ghost]

13. You post a YouTube video by a poster who calls him/herself...

..."barackobamalied," which explicitely implies that the Obama campaign was behind this sham (and, by proxy, that you agree with this theory) -- and then you try to stake out some moral high ground on this issue?

How could anyone believe this? I don't know...I didn't. But I can ask the same question of those who believe Hillary when she said that

• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)
• She didn't know about the FALN clemencies.
• She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

Help me out with these, would you?

I'm working really hard to buy into your self-righteous sanctimony.

[anonymeme]

19. Both Videos Show Images of James Carville, Mickey Kantor & George Stephanopoulos From 15 YEARS AGO

They don't look like that anymore.

Carville's face is unmistakable and 18 years ago he had hair. He doesn't have hair now, therefore the video couldn't have been made in the present.

You're a rather ignorant little ghost, aren't you.

And I really don't care what you buy into. The things political hacks, propaganda mongers and mouth-pieces for a specific candidate buy into, don't interest me at all.

Well, I've got a busy day, so in text speak: YJGTHTPOASYTB. Ta!

[snappyturtle]

23. You don't have a clue, do you? n/t

[Barrymores Ghost]

25. Did the originator of that video ever claim it was CURRENT?

Please show me -- where did the poster make the argument that George Stephanapoulos was an active member of Hillary Clinton's present-day presidential campaign, and that this video was referring to the Indiana voters of 2008?

Jeezus fuck, you're daft.

You've completely ducked my question, genius, so I'll put it to you again (and I'll type really slowly so that you can keep up): what evidence do you have that Obama's campaign was behind this video -- anymore, say, than perhaps Hillary's campaign -- who could have released it with the hope of putting out some easily dismissed red meat in order to implicate Obama's camp of involvement in "dirty tricks?"

And it hasn't escaped my notice that you blithely ignore all of the dozens of proven LIES I've noted that Hillary Clinton has put out there -- most of which she still hasn't answered for.

You know, I usually wouldn't give the time of day to some newbie who doesn't have the sack to post his or her own profile, but you're pretty low-hanging fruit, so fire away.

How's that Kool-Aid taste?

[Barrymores Ghost]

14. By the way, would you assign the term "slime" to those who ran an ad of Obama...

...featuring a clip from the Ohio debate, which had his face being digitally darkened and flattened, making him look more "negro" to Texas voters just before their primary? You know, that same technique used by TIME magazine when they ran O.J. Simpson's mug shot back in 1993?

That wasn't a 527 ad, incidentally -- it was Hillary's campaign.

Just in case you missed it.

[anonymeme]

17. B's Ghost, I'm Not Going to Let You Shift Focus Away From This Specific Video Proof That I Posted.

If You Have Any Actual Proof of What You are Claiming Start Another Post to Show It.

Whatever and whoever allegedly maligned Obama in those ways, is no argument against the Truth of the proof I presented in my post.

[Barrymores Ghost]

24. Nice dance.

I see you still haven't answered my question as to what proof you have that Obama's campaign was behind this video.

Not that I thought you would offer anything up -- but hey, I try to give moron the benefit of the doubt at least once.

Thanks for playing, Mensa.

[theFrankFactor]

15. Leave the Fuciking Internet Alone!

Here we go... A couple of turds are going to give the government a reason to "police" the Internet. Great! Let's give the "Economic Hitman" more job security.

[Limelight]

16. Oh, well if the C(linton) N(ews) N(etwork) says it...

It must be true.:sarcasm:

You know, as someone who studied journalism and put together reporter packages I got to tell you. If I were going to claim something was fake I would run the first clip (with highly offensive stuff bleeped), but then say "But listen to the original". Hey, that's not what he said at all".

I know as well as anyone that the old adage isn't true, video can lie if you know what you're doing with it, but I'm supposed to believe it was a lie just because someone said it was? Yeah.... proof please.

Besides, even if it is true, there are infinitely more pertinent things to drop in Hillary's lap that all the doctored video in the world couldn't explain away.

[anonymeme]

18. Carville, Kantor & Stephanopoulos Physical Age In the HOAX Video Is Inconsistent w/ The Present Day.

It's plain as day, if you look at the video. Look at them both and compare the images. Carville, Kantor & Stephanopoulos images are in the both videos looking identical, except they don't look like that today. They looked like that 15 years ago when the actual video was made.

But something tells me you are not the least bit interested in the Truth, you're just interested in talking smack.

[Barrymores Ghost]

27. Did the OP EVER say it took place recently?

Please, link this assertion by the OP...or STFU.

[JDPriestly]

20. Read his lips. He says something and then the "s***" word.

He is not talking about the White House.

[anonymeme]

21. It Was 15 Years Ago & Whatever He Was Talking About Had Nothing to Do w/ Hillary or Indianans!

[Barrymores Ghost]

26. Who ever said it DID have anything to do with Hillary's campaign?

Did Obama? Did any of Obama's campaign staff? Did the original poster of the video even say it?

Please, enlighten us.