NBC Today Show: Rachel Maddow & Gerldine Ferraro on Hillary Clinton & Sexism

[jefferson_dem]

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[DS1]

1. Ugh

shut the fuck up Gerry

[Fridays Child]

8. Ugh is right.

Geraldine is bitter and it doesn't help the cause of feminism. She was unpleasantly nitpicky in that clip. Rachel showed better manners and a lot more class. Hooray for Rachel!

[burythehatchet]

2. "I take my cues from Michelle Obama". Is that right Gerry?

What a tool

[Fridays Child]

9. I believe Michelle will be voting for Obama. There's a cue for you, Geraldine.

[iamthebandfanman]

3. 'typical male'

please.

i hate hypocrits.

love how she left out how Michelle said shed support and work for whoever the nominee was after she said shed have to think about hillary.

[speedoo]

4. Ms. Ferraro is full of it. Her "specifics" re. Obama's sexism are completely lame.

Honestly, if her comments are typical of Hillary's supporters, Hillary has no case re. sexism.

[annabanana]

5. This might have been interesting if Geraldine hadn't filibustered

and let Rachel (who is 3 or 4 times smarter than her) get a word in edgewise..

[rusty quoin]

19. It seemed that Rachel was being very careful with her, and let

Geraldine talk over her without complaint. I don't know if she didn't want to upset her, or just felt bad for her, or maybe it was respect.

[BlueCaliDem]

25. Yeah, wtf was that all about?? Gerry needs to go away, her petty...

... whining does not strengthen the case of women's rights.

It undermines it.

It's clear that Gerry believes that Hillary should be president because she's a woman. Not for any other reason than the fact she's a woman.

Talk about being sexist - the woman needs to understand that being a sexist is a double-edged sword and cuts BOTH ways.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

6. Geraldine made me cringe

when she started looking for a comparison to "iron my shirt." For a split second or two, I was actually praying. And I don't pray. She dodged it, but just barely.

[jefferson_dem]

7. "Rumor has it"...

this is Axelrod's nephew holding the sign.



:sarcasm:

Friggin ridiculous!

[Cant trust em]

10. So the "brush 'em off" comment was sexist?

Come on! There was nothing sexist about that comment, particularly since it was also made in context against two men.

[dbmk]

16. Precisely

Thats the major problem - and disservice to the fight against sexism. Belittling = sexism in way to many cases.

And the example of the debate where she was hammered way more than the men (how much we won't debate here, but go with the claim as is)..hellooo? She was the front runner. The assumed nominee. Why would anyone waste gunpowder on firing on everybody else? No matter the gender.

[Cant trust em]

21. There has been a lot of sexism against Clinton, but it hasn't been from Obama

Ferraro was given an open opportunity to come up with the best claims she could, and that was all she had. When I see real examples of sexism against Clinton I'll be on top of blowing them away, but this wasn't an example of it.

[Warpy]

11. Sorry, Gerry, you're off base on a lot of things here

Most of us out here wanted to support Clinton. There she was, an intelligent, capable woman smashing through that glass ceiling. Unfortunately, her election team has been giving her incredibly bad advice and she has seen fit to take their advice, from her vote on the shameful Kyl-Lieberman bill to her apparent militarism, trying to deflect criticism that she's soft and womanish on the military but making her into a hawk when the mood of the country has changed on that subject.

Then there was the near endorsement of McSame, citing age as the major qualification for office. That pissed a lot of us off and showed even more tone deafness to what the country is all about right now.

Trying to organize older feminists into boycotting this election is the last straw. Gerry, do you really want to see every gain women have made over the last 41 years abolished because you're in a fit of pique over Clinton? I don't, nor does any other thinking feminist.

Clinton's campaign has accomplished two things: first, she's awakened a whole generation of younger women to the fact that the fight is far from over, that ingrained sexism and patriarchal thinking are damaging all of us from the top on down; second, that she made the job a little easier for the next smart and capable woman simply because she has come this far.

I don't expect Clinton to drop out before the June 3 primaries, I never did. However, I do expect her to rein in people like Ferraro from trying to organize a McSame victory in November by a mean spirited refusal to vote for Obama.

No, Obama was never my choice. However, he is a Democrat and it's the Supreme Court, folks.

[dbonds]

12. Gerldine Ferraro is stuck in her time the same as Wright was his.

She is seeing things with a predigest of her personal history and not modern reality.

[Peacetrain]

31. So true and something to think about.

You are right.. and very much to the point.. we are all a product of the times we live and have lived in.. It colors our every perception

[sasquatch]

13. Geraldine Ferraro is Goddamned freak just like Malloy said when Randi was suspended

[GrpCaptMandrake]

15. This says as much

about the For-Profit Media as it does about Geraldine. What's the point of inviting her on? :popcorn: That's all. Just :popcorn: as the For-Profit Media hopes and prays on bended knee that Geraldine will say something loopy.

Personally, I thought Flip Wilson's Geraldine was a helluva lot funnier, not to mention saner.

[keep_it_real]

14. The Rev. Geraldine Ferraro Wright

She is as outdated as the old Rev. Wright is. Notice Rachel did not see anything wrong with Obama flicking dust off his shoulder - because she is of a different generation then Rev. Geraldine.

[rusty quoin]

18. Yes. That was a revealing exchange...

because I could never figure out what they found sexist.

[dbmk]

17. Holy crap, she is horrible.

[GarbagemanLB]

20. "TYPICAL MALE"???? And she has the fucking audacity to yell about sexism...

[Hope And Change]

22. Yeah, whatever....

:eyes:

[crystal dawn]

23. yeah whatever

Sorry but you don't need to drag a woman by her hair to prove this country believe's it is more acceptable to be a sexist than a racist. "Iron My Shirt" degrades and subjugates a woman as to put her in her place, where she belongs, and out of MY domain. In the kitchen, cleaning/ironing for ME. "Shine My Shoes" is equally as degrading and subjugates a black man as to put him in his place, where he belongs, and out of MY domain. Shining shoes, working for ME. Anyone that believes a "shine my shoes" poster at an Obama rally would have gotten the same amount of coverage as the "iron my shirt" one did, is fucking insane. Jeez, that would have been the news much longer than the Wright deal.

Not to mention, it's no surprise the GOP/media have gone after Obama for supposedly being "Muslim" instead of a "black man." Because again, in this country it is more acceptable to hate Muslims than it is to hate black people. Both are equally appalling and blatantly racist, but one is more acceptable to be than the other.

[uberllama42]

24. I thought the Annie Oakley comment was sexist

but the "brush it off" thing? That's just a confusing notion. Am I missing something there?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

26. How is comparing HRC to Oakley sexist? Annie Oakley was a sharp shooter.

[uberllama42]

35. It seemed that he was ridiculing her because of her gender

"Who does this woman think she is, messing around with guns?" That's how I took it, anyway. I'm not saying I'm on Ferraro's side. She's way out of line. But that one Oakley comment bothered me.

[Drunken Irishman]

32. What about comparing a guy to Rambo?

[uberllama42]

36. What about it?

I don't understand where you're going with that.

[raystorm7]

27. Gerldine Ferraro is just a gross woman.

[bjnumb9]

28. Typical Male???? WTF?

Don't cast stones from a glass house. Calling others sexist as she says this. Cheese n' Rice, how ridiculous!

It is exactly how Maddow (spelling?) says, you can't have it both ways. Clinton can't paint herself as the girl fighting against all the men trying to put her in her place, and then cry that others are putting gender into the discussion.

Ferraro is an idiot. I don't care what she's done in the past, I'm talking about the here and now. In the here and now, she's an idiot. Period. And an extremely bitter idiot at that. Looks like she's fighting demons from her failure to get into the White House years before.

[skygazer]

29. Wow, she's incredibly rude

I hate it when people hog the microphone like that, as if they think what they have to say is more important than what anyone else has to say.

As for specific examples of Obama's sexism, really laughable, Geraldine. You'll have to do better than that. :eyes:

[grassfed]

30. Bigot Ferraro - Biggest loser in US Pres History - Mondale V Reagan map

[barack the house]

33. Nazi appeaser, woman hater, terrorist these are not extreme views at all .

:sarcasm: If you followed Ferraro's thinking he can't debate her or brush off her attacks he is supposed to sit there and say nothing. Unreal.

[Apollo11]

34. Ferraro went wild at the end there - trying to bring in the blue-collar white voters crap

Which is of course completely irrelevant to the gender issue she was invited to discuss.

Poor Rachel hardly got the chance to say more than a few words. Hope she got paid just the same! B-)

[jgraz]

37. Simply disgusting

What a horrible human being Ferraro is. I'm ashamed we share the same ethnic background.

[stlsaxman]

38. With Ferraro and McAullife the only two left in her court...

no wonder thinking people wish she'd just go away.

[RBInMaine]

39. Oh lighten up Gerry ! Christ, if someone farted the wrong way you'd take offense.

[baldguy]

40. In the first few debates, Hillary was beat up on because she was the presumed front-runner.

It wasn't because of her gender - it was in spite of it.