Waxman Threatens to Kick Issa Out of Hearing Room

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[Ichingcarpenter]

1. "I will have you physically removed from this hearing"

Thank you Rep. Waxman.

[Parche]

2. Hey Swager

YOU JUST MADE MY DAY

I DESPISE Darrell Issa :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

They should remove him from DC altogether..........:woohoo:

:hi:

[niyad]

3. I would like to see issa removed from congress completely. the man is lower than pond scuml

I will not forget his role in the recall of gray davis.

[calimary]

50. Now that is an insult to pond scum everywhere!!!

Yeah, issa is one of the lowest of the bottom-feeders and I, too, won't forget what he did to Gray Davis. ASSHOLE. The only good thing about that sordid little episode was to see him cry like a tantrum-throwing two-year-old when his Grande Scheme to hijack the governorship here in California was derailed by Arnold. He'd put all his own money up and bankrolled the "petition drive" thinking it would all benefit him personally and he could steal Gray Davis's job. And then Arnold sidles up from the sidelines and steals it out from under him. And he WAAAAAAAAA-WAAAAAAAAA-WAAAAAAAA'ed like a spoiled little brat.

THAT was a MOST gratifying moment. The only bright spot in an otherwise grim time.

What a schmuck. A card-carrying, Ringling Brothers & Barnum & Bailey SCHMUCK. With tassles twirling.

[defendandprotect]

52. Issa is the Republican Party . . . it's what it's all about now . .. thugs/criminals ----

[ColbertWatcher]

54. Yes! Issa is a disgrace to California and humanity. Go Waxman! n/t

[Plucketeer]

67. Issa's an ass hole

An unwiped ass hole. He's an embarrassment to the state of California and an insult to the congress of this nation.
Toss this idiot, Henry!

[bjobotts]

69. Johnson is an authoritarian ass hole that should be barred from the EPA and jailed.

[bjobotts]

70. Issa just wants to interfere and obstruct...not legislate. I'd love to "remove"him free of charge.

[aquart]

78. Can he please take Bilbray with him?

[SharonAnn]

92. Isn't he the one who bankrolled the CA gubernatorial recall that got Schwarzenegger elected?

[xxqqqzme]

94. Yes he was, With the encouragement of the

CA publican party, he spent millions on the signature gathering for the recall petition. Then the CA publican party told him to shut up & sit down because they promised steroid boy he could be governor. darrell got all upset and cried. He's still, quite obviously, doin' the publicans bidding.

[L. Coyote]

4. Issa was definitely running interference for Bush, like when he lied about Carol Lam

Issa is a Bush Junta waterboy, plain and simple.
He is entrenched in the Corrupt Bastards Club.
May 18, 2006 - Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) provides false information to AP

================================
USA LAM FIRING TIMELINE:
.....
May 5, 2006 - CIA director Porter Goss resigns unexpectedly.
May 10, 2006 - Lam notifies DoJ she planned to serve search warrants on Kyle Foggo, who resigned two days earlier as No. 3 official at the CIA.
May 10, 2006 - HHS Seeks to Knock Out San Diego Hospital
May 11, 2006 - Kyle Sampson e-mails deputy White House counsel William Kelley, re "the real problem we have right now with Carol Lam ....
May 11, 2006 - LA Times reports Cunningham probe expanded to include CA Republican, then-House Appropriations Committee Chairman Jerry Lewis.
May 12, 2006 - FBI agents seizes records from Foggo's CIA offices and his suburban Vienna, Va.
May 17, 2006 - Tenet Healthcare Agrees to Divest Alvarado Hospital
May 18, 2006 - Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) provides false information to AP that Lam has prosecuted only 6% of 289 suspected immigrant smugglers.
......

from: US Attorney Firing: Voter Fraud, Medicare Fraud, WHICH IS IT ???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x133637

[DrDan]

5. good to see a little spine every once in a while

[Ned_Devine]

6. That was beautiful

[Maat]

7. Hey, that's MY esteemed Congressional representative ..

that you are maligning there!

:sarcasm:

We are DILIGENTLY working to get him out! Bob Hamilton is running against him! Go, Bob!

[grantcart]

75. and next door we are going to get rid of Bilbray

http://www.picknick08.com/

[Maat]

100. YAHOO!

Bye-bye, Brian!

[babylonsister]

8. Go, Waxman! That deserves a bunch of rec'ds! PS Issa's an ass. nt

[Maat]

10. People don't know the half of it ..

my friend and business partner ran against him in 2006. Mysteriously, she wasn't able to get a bit of press from the local fishwraps. He's a master at phoney-baloney 'graciousness' when you meet with him, according to several of my friends; the most important thing is that he unfailingly does exact what the Rethugs want him to do ... and he enjoys the resulting perks with great pleasure.

[underpants]

9. Nice gavel work there

he really was snapping his wrist really getting good extension and sound there

[rosesaylavee]

48. Looked like he wanted to reach over and

conk Issa on the head at one point. Got right to the edge and pulled back just before he lost his temper.

Waxman, you are a great man. :applause:

[pollo poco]

66. He can keep a beat, too! n/t

[RufusTFirefly]

11. The appearance of an accountant, but the bite of a bulldog

Gotta love Waxman. He's thorough and tenacious.

[crimsonblue]

12. Waxman wanted to say...

that the chair can do whatever the fuck it wants...

[Coexist]

13. knr!

[1776Forever]

14. Wow now that is a true Democrat! Right on Waxman! Thank you from the bottom of my heart

for standing up to this goons!!!!!!!

Need more of it!!!!!!!

:applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:

[Kelvin Mace]

15. Nice theatrics

but until I see some people jailed for refusing a subpoena, meaningless.

[Joe Chi Minh]

32. So meaningless it shut idiot-features up instantly. Not another syllable.

After all his bombast, how pathetic do you think that made him look! It seems to have passed over your head. You'd prefer to crib.

Where is your perception? Those people are smarter than you, and know when to act, and when action might very much less effective, because of the subornment of virtually the whole panoply of state. Wake up.

[bbgrunt]

36. my sentiments exactly, Kelvin Mace. nt

[ORDagnabbit]

16. nice

[no limit]

17. Is it legal for that asshole to be stonewalling like that?

He is not answering the questions. How can he possibly get away with that? Can't they bring contempt charges against him?

[Flying Dream Blues]

30. I agree...it is egregious that these thugs are continually getting away with this. nt

[no limit]

47. Shouldn't contempt charges be brought up against them?

I'm no lawyer but it would be nice to get clarification on this.

[Joe Chi Minh]

33. It would have been nice to hear Waxman say, "So, you've arrogated that privilege to yourself. Is

that it?" He must have been tempted to hit clout that big, dumb, smirking slab of a face of his.

[happydreams]

18. Go Henry!! K&R

[Beaverhausen]

19. WOW!!! I'm surprised Issa didn't start crying like a little baby

Waxman rocks!

[nosmokes]

20. Too bad his *testicular fortitude* isn't contagious.

Thank-you Senator Waxman.

[Postman]

21. Should've turned to his right and hit Issa square in the noggin...

n/t

[SquireJons]

22. Waxman has balls...

Unlike Reid and other Democratic leaders. I'm all for putting Waxman, Feingold and Webb in the leadership rolls for the party, because they know how to be tough and that's what it takes.

[FatDave]

97. Sounds good to me. (nt)

[gateley]

23. What is Issa's position on that committee --

is he in a position to question and chastise the chairman???

[BobbyVan]

26. Point of Order

It looks like Issa was just trying to make a point of order.

"A point of order may be raised if the rules appear to have been broken. This may interrupt a speaker during debate, or anything else if the breach of the rules warrants it. The point is resolved before business continues."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_order

(That's not to say that it's OK for a witness to lie or evade questions...)

[gateley]

28. I wonder how often someone actually does it --

Thanks for the info!

[Joe Chi Minh]

34. He said he could see the whole tome.

[Schema Thing]

39. did the rules really appear to have been broken? No, they did not.

Hence his putting of that shitbag in said shitbag's respective place.

[canucksawbones]

41. when...

have the republicans ever cared about the rules.

Issa got his ass handed to him, nicely sliced on a silver platter.

GK

[KSinTX]

103. I thought he was well within the rules

He may be a dork in many ways, but I couldn't see where he was wrong to make the point. Stephen was on the verge of invoking executive priviledge (who in this administration doesn't) and I know Waxman's frustration but he wasn't out of line.

[Sam Ervin jret]

24. If you're not invoking exeutive privilage, or the 5th you should answer the question or be in jail

end of discussion

[Flying Dream Blues]

57. That's what I thought...so what is the deal here? Why are they getting away

with the smirking non-answers?

[L. Coyote]

25. Who is Rep. Darrell ISSA, R- CA 49? NOT just another car thief, obviously!

GD: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3315872

[OnyxCollie]

60. According to opensecrets.org, Issa ranks second among richest members of the House.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDsummary.php?CID=N00007017&year=2006

(2006 numbers)

Net Worth: From $158,580,056 to $516,300,001
Ranks 2nd among all members
of the House
Assets: 56 totaling $158,580,056 to $516,300,001

[AzDar]

27. Kick his ass OUT, Henry!

Even amongst Republicans, Issa stands out as an obnoxious douchebag....}(

[orleans]

29. i have to watch this later. it sounds good. n/t

[L. Coyote]

31. DON'T miss this one. Like a judge bringing down the gavel on a car thief. LOL!

[Pastiche423]

35. Way to go, Henry!

That was a beautiful sight to behold.

[Indenturedebtor]

37. Love it! It seems he's sick of their stupid tricks

The puke was obviously trying to help that crony avoid the question. Should have thrown them both in the cell together.

It's unbelievable that they get away with this crap.

I'm all for waxman taking more of a leadership position! :applause:

[mikelgb]

38. FUCK!! i was at this hearing whwn it was scheduled...

but i left because it was not starting on time nd I wanted to see thw senate!!!

ARG! I knew it.

[Hulk]

40. This pig in a suit is a perfect example of this criminal administration...

...and issa is a perfect example of "politics to cover the asses of the criminal element" in this disgusting and embarrassing administration.

issa needs to be physically removed, and this stuffed shirt needs to have cold water thrown in his pompous face. Our legislative branch is NOT a joke. It is the third body of our government, and for this horse's ass to act in this manner is shameful.

Proud to be an American, disgusted to have such trash in our government!

[file83]

68. They should start arresting these fuckers for contempt by mocking the hearings

as this pig fucker in the suit is evading the answer to a simple fucking question.

[raystorm7]

42. Next time use the Gavel on them, not the table mister Waxman. Goodshow though

[DS1]

43. OUT *BANG* STAND *BANG BANG BANG BANG* ING!

[digidigido]

44. Waxman is a WIMP

Have the guy either take the 5th, cite executive privilege, or held in contempt of congress.
If he cites Executive privilege, then hold him in contempt anyway. That would be balls.
And for the record why hasn't Waxman let Sibel Edmonds speak or signed on to the resolution
to impeach Cheney. He is a WIMP who knows better

[Duncan]

46. I agree.

But like I said in 45.

[tomp]

71. i also agree.

i am very pro-environment, and i would have every corporate polluter drinking their own illegal efflux if i had my way, but there are, in my opinion, more crucial issues, as you cite, that need addressing first, immediately even. impeachment comes to mind. a real investigation into the sept. 11 attacks is another.

[Duncan]

45. Bangin!

That was well gaveled and well deserved.

[kcass1954]

49. That may just replace this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yust9Uc6xI as my new favorite video.

[defendandprotect]

51. Waxman is such a wonder and honey ---

Issa is a really vicious p----!

And I think should give us all an idea of what these right-wing thugs are all about --- !!!

[liberaldem4ever]

53. Thank you for posting that K&R

That was awesome!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[maseman]

56. You see I couldn't be a politician

My patience would have run out a long time ago. I would have told Issa to shove his rule book up his ass and go fuck himself and then called the guy testafying that he is full of bullshit and to get the hell out of the committee room. Then I would have thrown the gavel and went for a few cold ones.

Thus why I am not a politician.

[garthranzz]

55. Waxman knew the rules; Issa needed remind about "point of clarification for the record"

Here's what I think is the relevant section from Robert's Rules of Order, which is the basis for the House Rules.

For points of inquiry or information, answer the question, redirect it to the member who had the floor, or invite the membership to answer that question only. "Can anyone respond to Mr./Ms. Z's question regarding (such-and- such)?" Do not permit debate or extraneous information to enter into the response. Try to limit, or at least to moderate, requests for further clarifications, to prevent the issue from being muddled.
For a point of order, rule on it immediately, possibly seeking the counsel of others. If you are completely unsure, it is in order to put the member's point before the Society. The latter recourse is undebatable; restate the point, and ask for those in favor of the interpretation as expressed in the point of order, and for those opposed. A simple majority carries.


Issa (I - is a ass) raised a point of order, based on the Five Minute Rule (see below). Waxman said he was asking the Jerk Johnson for clarification - a Point of Inquiry - which apparently take precedence over the five minute rule, at the chair's discretion. From Rule 14 below: ". Until all such requests have been satisfied, the chairman shall, so far as practicable, recognize alternately" - Waxman was relying on the "so far as practicable" provision and the priority of a point of inquiry/clarification.

SO INDEED HE WAS FOLLOWING PROCEDURE CORRECTLY AND WITHIN HIS DISCRETION

Committee Rules and Jurisdiction

The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is the main investigative committee in the U.S. House of Representatives. It has authority to investigate the subjects within the Committee’s legislative jurisdiction as well as “any matter” within the jurisdiction of the other standing House Committees.

Rule 14 -- Five-Minute Rule
(a) A Committee member may question a witness only when recognized by the chairman for that purpose. In accordance with House Rule XI, clause 2(j)(2), each Committee member may request up to five minutes to question a witness until each member who so desires has had such opportunity. Until all such requests have been satisfied, the chairman shall, so far as practicable, recognize alternately based on seniority of those majority and minority members present at the time the hearing was called to order and others based on their arrival at the hearing. After that, additional time may be extended at the direction of the chairman.

From Rules of the House

Sec. 6 . The Chairman's Role

The powers and duties of the full committee chairmen are derived
from custom and from the rules of the House. The chairman of a
committee:

<box> Presides over committee meetings. Manual Sec. 317.
<box> Administers oaths to witnesses in hearings in the committee or
delegates that authority. Manual Sec. 805; 2 USC Sec. 191. In
one instance, the chairman of an investigating committee
administered the oath to himself and testified. 3 Hinds
Sec. 1821.
<box> May punish breaches of order and decorum by censure and
exclusion from hearings. Manual Sec. 803.

More from the House rules:
(2)(A) Subject to subdivisions (B) and (C), each committee shall apply
the five-minute rule in the interrogation of witnesses in any hearing
until such time as each member of the committee who so desires has had
an opportunity to question each witness.

[whistle]

58. This was great and it is about time that the cronies are called out on their evasions

...to answer the questions and in particular Waxman was totally within his authority to get for the record the reason why the witness continued to use evasion. I wish Waxman had ordered the physical removal of that worm Rep. Issa who continually disrupts the flow of committee investigative purpose to get at the truth.

[L. Coyote]

59. Have You rated this on YouTube yet? Do you rate comments on YouTube?

Views: 7,105
Comments 93

[L. Coyote]

61. DU this: Issa almost booted

Issa almost booted
May 20, 2008 - http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/news/breaking/2008/05/issa_almost_booted.html


Rep. Henry Waxman banged the gavel a half dozen times to silence Rep. Darrell Issa Tuesday.

According to Dow Jones Newswire, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee then told the Vista Republican: "I will have you physcially removed from this meeting if you don't stop."

The confrontation came during a hearing in Washington when Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Stephen Johnson refused to say whether he had spoken to President Bush before deciding various environmental policies.

The Dow Jones dispatch said Issa kept interrupting Waxman, D-Los Angeles ....

COMMENTS:

Issa could cause a saint to take up meth.
Posted by: Rumir at May 20, 2008 07:56 PM

[Hutzpa]

62. Question???

Is there a way to bared a member from the committee for disrespecting
the Chairman? because thats what that numskull did.

Good job Rep Waxman, about time we take these asswipes to task.


:grr: :grr: :grr:

[orleans]

63. i thought he was gonna break that fucking gavel!

[ekwhite]

64. God, I love Henry Waxman...

He has got the take no prisoners attitude we need in this party. God love him.

[SeattleGirl]

65. Whoa! I think Henry wanted to bash the gavel on Issa's head!

:wow:

[Shoelace]

84. or taser Issa's assa! Sure hope Robt. Hamilton beats him in Nov!

I'd like to have seen that. He's got a great opponent in that San Diego district this year. We need to watch this race closely.

Robert Hamilton, please win in November!!! Hoping Dean injects enough money into your campaign to help you win.

http://roberthamiltonforcongress.wordpress.com/

[L. Coyote]

72. KO: Rep. Darrell Issa 'Worst Person' for Opposing 9/11 Worker Assistance

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x135348

[zeos3]

73. k & r

[mahina]

74. Un. Real.

What a horse's rear end. Wow.

Waxman is the man, for sure.

[Name removed]

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[Oilwellian]

77. WTF are you talking about

Waxman was trying to make a point of order which is completely within his right as chairman of the committee. The EPA guy was refusing to answer the questions...something Republicans have always done when put under oath. The only ones ruining our country are those who think they can continually break our laws (in this case environmental laws) and never have to answer to anyone. Issa has been an ass on this committee for years and has continually helped Bush and those who've broken many laws to hide and obfuscate. This scene had nothing to do with "Dems attitude of victory at any cost" and everything to do with our total frustration at the republican party and their criminality. If you've been paying attention, (and I can see you have not) you too would be pissed and would completely identify and almost feel the frustrations vented via that poor little gavel. This bullshit with Issa has been happening since the Dems took control of that committee in 2006. And if you think that little scene was bad, you should have seen it under repub control. You'll have to cook up something else that proves the Dems have an attitude of victory at any cost. Sounds to me like good old repuke projecting. (Something else we've witnessed for the past several years.)

[LiberalAndProud]

85. R.I.P. flat

We hardly knew ye.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=220258

[momster]

79. The EPA Guy's Contempt

for Congress is what gets me, smirking, sneering and avoiding the questions. Those Bushie jerks spin, lie and obfuscate. Send the U.S. Marshalls after them all and dump them in jail until they either rot, talk or the next administration comes along. Then try the bastards...there must be a law against fucking up the country this damn bad!

[pink-o]

80. The original article from the WAPO...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/19/AR2008051902337.html



...I read this on the plane yesterday coming home from DC...and almost screamed out loud. Those fuckers won't allow ANYTHING to cut into their oil cronies profits--never mind if we all die and kill the planet in the process. I'm glad Waxman hauled Johnson's sycophantic ass in front of the committee immediately, but I wish he'd held him in contempt. This is a very serious issue, California needs to set environmental standards that the rest of the country will eventually follow. It's what we do best!

[skooooo]

81. Wooooo!!! The first time he slammed the gavel down!

He was mmmmmmmmmaaad!

[ToughLuck]

82. Go Waxman, can hear the frustration in his voice and face..love the gavel banging!!

More executive privilege..what a shock!

[victordrazen]

83. Waxman for President!

(If only!)

[democracy1st]

86. wonderful thats strength

[L. Coyote]

87. That's lack of respect for car thieves!

[LSK]

88. wow

:wow:

[johnnyrocket]

89. Go Waxman! No more covering up the crimes of Bush!

These GOP criminal conspirators can't cover for their main man Bush, anymore.

[Zambero]

90. Issa -- Is his seat vulnerable?

Here's hoping. His behavior indicates a forgetfulness on his part that his party no longer controls Congress.

[pleah]

91. Oh! I would have loved to have seen that!

KICK HIS ASS!

[butterfly77]

93. Go Waxman!

kick :dem:

[Marr]

95. Did you notice how Johnson's whole demeanor changed after Issa got smacked?

Suddenly he wasn't so smarmy and condescending. He actually seemed to become almost respectful.

Conservatives only respect force. They often say that about their enemies, but it's especially descriptive of themselves.

[curiousdemo]

96. He didn't say another word....

Punkass got the message! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[redsoxrudy]

98. The mustache of justice at work!!

[redqueen]

99. How can they just refuse to answer questions like that?

*sigh*

[New Dawn]

101. Excellent. We need more Democrats like that.

[travelingtypist]

102. And not another peep out of Issa after that.

That was great.