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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:07 AM
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CNN Reports on "Preliminary" Obama-Clinton Compromise Talks
 
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:29 AM
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1. Screw her gracefull exit! Get the F#$k OUT! If she had left 2-3 months ago "MAYBE" we coulda talked.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:46 AM
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2. What the hell is this thing about showing her
Edited on Fri May-23-08 09:47 AM by spokane
respect, she has thrown that out the window long time ago and she
should have thought about that before throwing the kitchen sink,
racism and sexism at him and now we are suppose to bow to her
because she demands the VP position..... @#$k HER!!!

Every fucking day her and her surrogates are acting like spoilt
child.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:58 AM
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3. This takes the cake. Talk about a feeling of 'entitlement'!
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:11 AM
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4. What the hell are these people afraid of? This woman is NOT the
GODDAMNED Queen of England. We don't owe her a damn thing!! Unbelievable - help her to have "respect". She has no respect for anyone if anyone EVER THOUGHT differently this should settle that!
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:32 AM
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7. The media want Hillary on the ticket at any cost.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 10:42 AM by bulloney
She would generate so much crap from the Republican slime machine that they wouldn't have to do a thing during the campaign season. Just sit and wait for the swiftboats and the other tentacles of the Republican campaign bring fictional innuendo statements about her and Obama.

Don't want our news gerbils to strain themselves actually digging up real news, do we?

Given the media's zero credibility from their coverage of Iraq and recent presidential campaigns, I have my doubts that any such talks are really taking place with the Clinton and Obama camps.

What about the Republican side? Is John McCain meeting with Rudy Giuliani, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson and anybody else who sought the presidency this year? Where are the media hounds on that angle of this issue?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:45 PM
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15. Well obviously, but after today only the most delusional
will still support her.
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jonestonesusa Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:20 AM
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5. This is a must see...thanks for posting it.
It's really Obama's biggest test so far of decision-making under fire in public. He's earned the nomination - it's his call, and I hope he treats the decision this way. And I think it's time to move on.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:28 AM
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6. Boy there is a lot of invective in the first few posts
Susanne Malveaux's report seems to be speculation based on "Clinton insiders," so take the whole thing with a grain of salt.

If the report IS correct, negotiations for a "graceful exit" are a good thing, even if it leads to Vice-President Hillary Clinton. Like it or not, she is popular with a large segment of Democratic voters that we need in the fall. If the Obama campaign has to make a few concessions, so be it. We can all live with that better than with another four years of Republican rule.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:09 AM
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9. Aren't you going out on a limb?
Common sense has often met with a violent end around here......
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:16 AM
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11. Per Axelrod after this was posted, it's all speculation. There's CNN,
screwing up the facts again. Maybe it's more like wishful thinking.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:41 AM
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8. A Hillary Vice Presidency would be a complete and utter catastrophe
I was listening to a local public radio political show and one thing they pointed out which isn't often considered is that Hillary will come not just with Bill, but with her entire very large, very ego inflated staff, and given the precedent that both Bill and W established of powerful VPs, Hillary will expect to be a power center in the White House.

Even if Obama is more popular than Hillary, Hillary's staff will muscle their way to the center of power.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:13 AM
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10. A McCain presidency would be the greatest catastrophe
Anything other than that is something that can be worked around.
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MJJP21 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:33 AM
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12. maybe not
I think I would rather have McCain as president with house and senate in strong democratic majority than have Hillary and Bill anywhere near the White House.
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:41 PM
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13. Obama supporter here, but...
Remember the Supreme Court. It would be a disaster, for this reason alone, to have a Republican President.
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:50 PM
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16. I can't agree
Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:52 PM by Asgaya Dihi
Last time we had a dem President it didn't do us a hell of a lot of good. Prison growth and privatization continued to skyrocket complete with racial disparities and the http://www.prisoncommission.org/">human rights abuses and neglect associated with the overcrowding, we got NAFTA, the start of our military and governmental dependence on Blackwater and others of the sort until we can no longer even function without them because the military itself isn't equipped for it anymore, media consolidation which enabled much of the abuse under Bush, and so much more damage.

Clinton will poison anything she touches, the tactics she used to get into power if it works will continue to be used because they worked and she'll try to run the nation from the VP office leaving Obama an ineffectual figurehead, much as Cheney is more the real leader than Bush is and he always has been.

I don't think Obama would allow it but since the VP can only be impeached and convicted but NOT fired he can't really stop her from trying anyway, he'd have no leverage and no control over her, no real way to make her stop doing anything she feels like doing. It's a near guarantee of four years of conflict, of the dems looking ineffectual and like we can't do anything with any level of competence, and it would utterly destroy any "change" or "new politics" effort.

The only thing worse than a McCain Presidency would be another dem like the last one we had. One who leaves the nation hurting worse than it was when we took power and who enables the abuses of the repub who is sure to follow after it. If we do this right we've got the chance to change the tone in the nation and to lead us down a new path and to do it now. If we do it wrong all we accomplish is to convince the public that we aren't ready either. That gives us 4 years of infighting and trash within the party followed by another 4 to 8 years of repub control since the public will then want a change from us before we get another chance to offer anything like real change. If we lost this one that's just another 4 years until we get another shot, not 8 to 12.

I do NOT want Clinton on the ticket, in a Cabinet post, Supreme Court, or in any other position that would enable her and her husband to do more damage of the type they did through their administration then again through this campaign. They are a good part of why we need to change and what we need to change away from, can't do that with them in the middle of it and they could cost us a decade or more before real change is even possible if allowed to.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:02 PM
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14. Compromise??? She f*cking lost, she needs to act like an adult and get out!
I'm sick and tired of Clinton being treated with kid gloves.
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