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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:46 PM
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Fox News’s Kilmeade Says Vets Don’t Deserve Webb’s GI Bill Because They Volunteered To Serve
 
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Via ThinkProgress:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/27/kilmeade-gi-bill/

After garnering 256 votes in the House, Sen. Jim Webb’s (D-VA) 21st Century GI Bill passed the Senate last week with 75 votes. Yesterday, on Memorial Day, the New York Times criticized President Bush and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) — who skipped the vote — for opposing the bill, writing that Bush and McCain “would prefer that college benefits for service members remain just mediocre enough that people in uniform are more likely to stay put.”

Discussing the op-ed this morning, Fox and Friends’s Brian Kilmeade defended Bush and McCain, saying their position is “just a different emphasis.” He insisted that current circumstances are “different” than after World War II, when the original GI bill was passed, because today’s veterans volunteered to serve:

This is just a different emphasis. … After all this is different. People point to, ‘Well, look what they did after World War II.’ Well after World War II, people were conscripted. They said, ‘You’re joining.’ They said for doing that and winning the war, here’s a college education. Now, people are saying, ‘I want to be a military person. I am signing on in a volunteer force.’

In reality, Bush and McCain’s stance on the GI Bill is not just a “different emphasis.” McCain’s watered-down alternative reserves the most generous benefits to those who serve at least 12 years. Furthermore, soldiers would not “jump off to college after three years,” as Kilmeade suggested, because they would still have to complete their enlistment terms.

The Congressional Budget Office report concluded any reduction in enlistment rates is made up for in recruitment increases. And as Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America pointed out, “The GI Bill is the military’s single most effective recruitment tool; the number one reason civilians join the military is to get money for college.”

Fox and Friends’s Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson also took up the White House line, slamming the Times for its “vitriolic” (or, as Carlson said, “vitrolic”) criticisms. Carlson said Bussh thinks soldiers “should serve more time before they get a free education.” She quickly added, “Not that he’s against military at all,” to which Doocy interjected, “No!”
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:48 PM
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1. "is it 'vitrolic' ?" - HAHAHAHAA!!!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:09 PM
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7. People who are going to criticize newspapers should probably be able to read. NT
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:11 PM
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8. HEY!!! Don't put her down. She's purdy!
She can't help it if she's an airhead. LOL! That really cracked me up too.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:13 PM
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10. Classic Married With Children moment: "strom clods over... Chick a go"
HAHAHA!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:16 PM
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12. HA! you beat me to it!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:15 PM
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11. Oh, give her a break.
She makes up for it by being purty.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:16 PM
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13. I sure hope she cashes in on it while she can.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:27 PM
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16. Perhaps she meant "victrolic."
victrolic (adj.) 1. Of, referring to, or resembling an antiquated, outdated, or otherwise obsolete mechanism or point of view. "Her stubborn insistence on shilling for long-disgraced, free-market fundamentalism struck Rufus as being terribly victrolic."

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:39 PM
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17. Yah - I'm *sure* that's what she meant...
Not.

Ot "victoryoholic"! I can't gets me enough victory!

:rofl:
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:22 PM
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22. Touche'
:evilgrin: Well done!
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:48 PM
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2. Extra irony: Faux and Fiends Bimbo bemoans American
citizens' superficial understanding of the news and legislative issues. HA ha.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:53 PM
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3. And how many of these idiots served?
Especially in the National Guard, where constant re-deployments have cost people their jobs?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:06 PM
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4. I know DOZENS of people from family & people I knew in high school who VOLUNTEERED because....
...of the GI Bill

what an asshole.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:07 PM
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5. Watching Rich Elite Bitch about those Who Sacrifice for their Country
disgusting....
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:08 PM
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6. People who just read the headline are going to be mislead?
The headline the video showed was "Mr. Bush and the G.I. Bill". Reading that headline would give them no information. This is a panel of morans.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:12 PM
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9. Fox And Friends
is the best comedy on television, I never miss it.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:17 PM
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14. Asshats, Why do they hate vets?
Edited on Tue May-27-08 02:17 PM by progressoid
The GI bill helped put my Dad through college.

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:20 PM
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15. At least that was fair and balanced
and the Democratic voice was heard.


Oh, wait, maybe not.
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canucksawbones Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:53 PM
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18. Irony meter imploded
the dials went to 11 and it simply ceased to be, never seen anything like it.

GK
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:15 PM
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19. Of course....
If this was Bush's or McCain's bill and Obama voted against it FOX and Friends would be calling Obama a terrorist for voting against it.

Does anyone with any objective still watch FIXed News?
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 03:27 PM
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20. These three clowns are anything but funny. "Disgusting" comes to mind.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:07 PM
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21. Fox...
... how I hate it. The Fox Opinion Channel.

Oh, by the way pinhead. It's not a story...it's an editorial.

But how would anyone at Fox know the difference?
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:39 PM
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23. Why did I watch that? I think my I.Q. dropped 10 points and I can ill afford the loss.
A few more visits to FOX and I'll be in double digits.

This programming ought to come with a disclaimer warning that viewing will be detrimental to brain function.

My head hurts.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:41 PM
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24. "Is it 'vitrolic'?" No, it's IDOTIC, you moron!!
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 04:48 PM
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25. Draft these jerk offs and send them to Iraq.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 05:27 PM
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26. . . . and FoxNews is against the soldiers
The New York Times was spot on.

Mr. Kilmeade, why do you hate the troops?
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 06:19 PM
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27. But he has yellow ribbon magnets on all his SUV's
He "supports the troops" since they're protecting his oil supply.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 06:50 PM
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28. the treachery and wickedness of fox news leaves me speechless
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andres hunter Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 07:20 PM
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29. Screw Fox
no one cares about them.
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singilarpoint Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:52 PM
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30. Kills me
I have always wondered where the, well you signed up, so now you get what you got attitude comes from.
It kills me every time I hear it. So if I go swimming do I DESERVE to drown? I mean, I knew the risk I was taking before I went into the water right? These people are just insane.....They piss me off to no ends. I KNOW PEOPLE LIKE THIS.
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bow-tie Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:02 PM
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31. I don't understand why they
volunteer, they have got to know they're being lied to and they're going to fucked out of everything promised. Don't volunteer, please, don't do it!
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