Donna Brazile Owns Clinton Supporter Blanchard at the DNC Rules Panel

[ultraist]

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At the DNC Rules Panel, Donna Brazile, Superdelegate and Rules Committee Member, owns Clinton Supporter, Governor Blanchard, by stating:

"My mama taught me to play by the rules and respect the rules..."

"When you decide to change the rules, especially, in the middle of the game, it's called cheating."

[ultraist]

1. "My mama taught me to play by the rules!"

GO DONNA GO!

:kick:

Best moment of the committee meeting meeting, yet.

[Terri S]

3. and got a well-earned standing ovation

K & R !

[raystorm7]

20. Finally someone called it for what it is "Cheating". Thank you Donna!

[cyclezealot]

30. My Momma told me

it was in the spirit of the Civil Rights struggle to break the rules, should your grievances go unheeded year after year.

[DailyGrind51]

37. Martin Luther King bravely accepted the penalty

for "breaking the rules" of discrimination by willingly go to jail for his beliefs. Hillary, on the other hand, believes she should be rewarded for violating rules she signed off on in the beginning.

[DailyGrind51]

47. And, we are just trying to get over

a "my way or the highway" president. Do we really want another one?

[greguganus]

43. Stop trying to cover up the cheating with your side track. Start your own damn thread. n/t

[KSinTX]

48. Michigan was a different case to me

It was truly an act of civil disobedience. But in accepting that an act may go against the rules, one must also accept the consequences. Levin has worked tirelessly to make this change in the party both using the rules and outside of them. I think Michigan was right to do what it did. Florida was an entirely diffenent case. These were not victims nor were they civil disobeyers. They simply went to the floor of their opponents and showed them their bellies, much as in the animal world, and surrendered. Absolutely different cases.

[cyclezealot]

51. Reforming the system is such a high priority

I take Michigan's punishment as a badge of courage.

[mitchtv]

2. anti Gay homophobe Donna

speaks big deal Her word means shit
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3064746

[ultraist]

6. A little extreme, doncha think?

While I disagree with her and the others on that particular decision, it's pretty extreme to call her an anti-gay homophobe over it.

One decision does not a homophobe make.

Regardless, she's right on this situation. Changing the rules in the middle of the game is cheating.

[mitchtv]

10. Not like it was a minor decision

It will cost the DP plenty, It already cost them 6 months of contributions from someone I know. And yeah it was a vicious, homophobic thing to do.and anything she is for, I suspect. Question is, is it possible to be anti gay and not homophobic?

[mikehiggins]

33. If homophobic means "afraid of gays" as I've always taken it to mean then yeah, you can be

you can be anti-gay without being homophobic.

What is there to be afraid of, anyway? I haven't heard of mobs of gays prowling the streets beating up straights, or making nasty comments when a guy and a girl walk down the street holding each others hand.

I cannot think of a situation in my entire life, 63 years so far, in which I had cause to feel afraid of any gay man, or woman, so I'm not so sure that the anti-gay folks are mostly driven by fear. More often, I think its cultural and, especially religious culture, that drives efforts to discriminate against this segment of the population.

As a libertarian-leaning leftist, I have no interest or concern with who anyone takes to bed, regardless of gender. As a sort of teacher/writer I do wish people would be a little less extra-inclusive in how they label people, if they have to label them at all.

[ExPatLeftist]

18. WTF does that have to do with this thread?

Or do you pretty much just go kneejerk Ad Hominem all over anyone that says anything you don't like?

Please note that your assertion that "her words mean nothing" is a logical fallacy. How many others have you used today in a vain attempt to make a point? : http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/


Like her or not, she speaks the truth in this case - or do you think it is just fine to attempt to change rules in the middle of a contest?

[SunDrop23]

23. Blah blah blah (n/t)

[KSinTX]

25. When one runs out of valid argument, attack the person

classic ad hominem. Well done.

[rosesaylavee]

27. Wow.

I had not seen that. What a bizarre decision. Civil Rights are Civil Rights. I don't care what differentiates them from what is considered the 'main stream' group. **Any** group of people whose civil rights are threatened or denied should be championed by the Democratic Party. Period. DB is dead wrong on that issue.

Thank you for posting.

[Honeycombe8]

32. Has nothing to do w/the matter at hand. Also, that's it? That's what has upset you?

That she didn't want gays included in one thing, at one particular time? It wasn't like she made an historical statement that gays have no civil rights. Seems to me that she wanted blacks to have their special moment, with their special history, as regards the Civil Rights Movement.

It doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but then, I'm not gay. But her point is well taken.

Gays were really not involved in the Civil Rights Movement. They didn't actively support it, march for it, die for it. The Civil Rights Movement IS in particular an African American movement.

That doesn't mean that she wouldn't support rights for gays at some other time, in some other way.

But all of this has nothing to do with the matter at hand. This seems similar to me of the Hillary Clinton supporters who seem to hate everyone who disagrees with their position in any way, on any subject.

[AlbertCat]

46. WHAT?

<i>Gays were really not involved in the Civil Rights Movement. They didn't actively support it, march for it, die for it.</i>

You don't think any of those marchers in the 60's were gay?

Get a friggin' grip! In the late 50's and early 60's you couldn't even be out like today. Plenty of gays marched, supported and died for civil rights.....you just didn't know they were gay because there was NO GAY PRIDE then. Jesus! How dense!

[ooglymoogly]

49. Thank you for posting the link

Gays have, from the get go, supported black causes. It was in the gay movement, back in those dark days, where blacks and whites were unquestionable equals. For Brazil to co-opt the equal rights movement is obscene. So get back in the closet Donna and hate yourself on your own time.

[gateley]

4. Whoa NC Dem -- you're the best!

I'm brokenhearted that I'm not able to watch it, so these are SO appreciated! :headbang:

[ultraist]

5. Thanks!

CSPAN will likely have some of the videos up in a few days or so, if you want to see other segments too.

[gateley]

7. I'd actually like to see the meeting in its entirety. I'm such a geek.

But probably I'll lose interest after they've delivered their ruling.

[gateley]

8. And I didn't mean to call you NC Dem --

I'm in NC and I was thinking I was grateful to my neighbor! MISSPOKE, as it were. :7

[ultraist]

12. Actually, I am NCDem

I'm NCDem on YouTube and NCDem Amy on most other sites. Here on DU, I'm ultraist which is a name I chose before I started using NCDem Amy.

[gateley]

15. Oh! I get it --

Well then DOUBLE thanks for the great work. I thought you were just keeping an eye out on YouTube and posting the vids here when "NC Dem" uploaded to YouTube!

And howdy, neighbor! :hi:

[ultraist]

19. lol, thank you!

:hi:

[stlsaxman]

16. stream c-span right now, then! watch it live...

make for great viewing.

their about to go into the afternoon session and without the awful crowd.

4:15 p.m. Eastern Time.

[fascisthunter]

9. Ah-damn, That Was GOOD! CHEATERS!

thank you for calling a spade a spade.

[Hot Potato Mash]

11. Donna Great But What About Wolf?

My God Wolf Blitzer is always terrible and this little snippet at the end where he tries to quote Brazile talking about her "momma" is no exception.

[ultraist]

14. lol!

Yes, he obviously was not able to keep up with her.

[think4yourself]

34. Yeah

SO glad I watched it on CSPAN without Leslie ruining everything. How someone with a monotone voice got that far in broadcasting I'll never understand.

[bluestateguy]

13. I hope she becomes mayor of Washington D.C. someday

nt

[peoli]

17. If the Michigan Dem Party came up with a plan and the (Hill supporting) Governor approved

Why the fuck would that not then become the answer to Michigan? The figured it out themselves. That is the answer.

[Bette Noir]

21. Brava on Donna.

[goclark]

26. I thought her remarks were a real turning point

It was old fashion Democratic politics at it's best!

She was great today!

[robinlynne]

22. She was spectacular!

[singilarpoint]

24. PLEASE

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIND, AND POST THE AGREEMENT SIGNED BY HILLARY CLINTON PROMISING THAT SHE WOULD NOT SEEK THE DELEGATES FROM MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA!!!!!!!! I WOULD, BUT I'M NOT THE MOST COMPUTER SAVVY. PLEASE!!!!!!!!

[Phred42]

40. Good POint

randi Rhodes plays the audio of Hillary saying that "the Michigan Vote doesn't matter because it won't count" at least twice per show
You might find that in one of her podcasts

[zauberflote]

45. Here's something

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmUVr_Qt2Wg>

This is good,too:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHRqi8nsvI>

[democracy1st]

28. she's not only level headed but well spoken too

[jazzwinders]

29. I'm not a Donna fan

I'm not a fan of Donna B, but Ihave to admit that she was dead on with that statement and I'm from Michigan.

[Honeycombe8]

31. She was great. nt

[J R]

35. She made a great point, but...

...her anti-gay bigoted stance blows my mind! How dare she deem gays as unworthy of being included in the Civil Rights Movement! She's a minority who's most probably suffered discrimination at the hands of the majority. But now here she sits committing the same sins she and the rest of the American black folks suffered through for centuries! Donna, dear, don't you get it? You've become a powerful person, and sadly you're using that power to victimize another minority, the LGBT crowd. The hypocrisy amazes me! I say we start a grassroots movement to run her out of the Democratic party, since she's obviously not very democratically minded. Shame on you, Donna Brazile!!!

[raystorm7]

50. I know black folk like her...

Never met a gay in real life only what they see on the news or TV and thats their full opinion on who gays are. Going to a black church that consistently preaches anti-gay rhetoric doesn't help either.

Overall she has good intentions, but is just so blinded by her Gay hate it hurts.

[October]

36. Where was this a few years ago? /nt

[liberaldem4ever]

38. I love Donna and so does my 17 yo son

Both of us have been big fans of Donna Brazile for a long time. My son used to say he wished he could marry Donna when he was little. I've gotta show him this video-I watched a lot of the meeting yesterday on TV but I must have missed this part.

[Jefferson23]

39. Good for you Donna! It is about time someone within the party said

the word cheating. I have been dismayed that the MSM had not covered nearly enough attention to how this mess began within the party in Michigan and Florida. Those elected officials that contributed to this mess should be hung out to dry by the voters in those two states...when they chose to disobey those rules, they screwed their constituents and have been pointing fingers at anything and everyone else to blame.

[Guava Jelly]

41. Thank you Donna

:applause:

[BREMPRO]

42. best moment of the debate! cut to the heart of the matter- momma taught me it's CHEATIN.

[mod mom]

44. EXCELLENT! Way to Go Donna Brazile!

[RainDog]

52. that's just about the best political theatre I've seen in a while! Go Brazile!

She was sooo good. She got right to the heart of this issue and what it is all about.