Is Angelina Jolie A Secret Republican?---The Young Turks

[CherylK]

Run time: 01:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2pU3VeuNkU   Posted on YouTube: August 12, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: August 13, 2008 By DU Member: CherylK Views on DU: 4357

 

[Divine Discontent]

1. she always gave me that vibe

I hope she's not... but I wouldn't be shocked. Remember, she was married to Billy Bob, I mean, doesn't that make her possibly not all there?

[tritsofme]

2. She's playing Dagny Taggart in the Atlas Shrugged movie.

It wouldn't surprise me for a second.

Ayn Rand wrote some of the most vile and disgusting propaganda I have ever read.

[nachoproblem]

17. Ew!

Sorry, that's all I got... ew.

[jimlup]

32. Atlas Shrugged

Yeah, I agree that Ayn Rand was a propagandist. I read Atlas Shrugged just to find out what all the hype was about, but I intentionally didn't finish the last page just so I could say I never "finished" Atlas Shrugged. A silly self protest against the propaganda in that book. I disagree with most, but not all, of what she says. I'd claim her perspective is more naive than anything else. I kinda feel sorry for the lady. She was very dogmatically stuck in a particular perspective and wasn't able to get beyond it. And it was her loss.

[Da Fusa]

3. her father is, so it wouldn't surprise me

although she does supposedly hate the man

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. She loathes her father. nt

[Jack Rabbit]

4. Who cares?

I think I can live just as long as I will with or without knowing Ms. Jolie's views on politics.

[stark6935]

6. Are you sure jack?

She is kind of cute...

[Jack Rabbit]

8. I don't think I could compete with Brad Pitt

[Wetzelbill]

11. Don't sell yourself short

lol

[Jack Rabbit]

36. I've always been short

That's why I couldn't buy a date a in high school.

[Wetzelbill]

43. me too

HS it was ok, might prevent some dates now though, lol.

[jimlup]

33. That's the understatement of the century!

She's hot as hell.

[pattmarty]

30. Agree totally!!!!!

[Kerrytravelers]

7. So... is she not aware of the human rights abuses put forth by the rethugs?

It strikes me as odd that someone who is a Goodwill Ambassador and speaks out for human rights would support a party that has dragged America down to the lowest depths in regards to torture and human rights.

I'm disappointed in her.



However, if she thinks that supporting McSame and his hell-bent-on-war rethug party, she is welcomed to enlist and join the troops in Iraq. At this point, anyone who would vote for McSame should leave the polling place with their "I voted" sticker, their sample ballot and an enlistment form in their hand.

[Kaleko]

13. You've already convicted her, lol.

Verdict: Guilty of being a Republican.

(swine, hell-bent, mass murderer)


And all it took, was ingesting some rumors about her.

[Kerrytravelers]

37. I think you may be misreading the intention of my post.

I hardly think I am convicting anyone. Merely commenting on the content of the video.

I never wrote the words swine nor mass murder.

The current batch of rethugs are certainly hell-bent on war.

I think writing an article would be more than just rumors on the Internet.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/27/AR2008022702217.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

The Washington Post article by itself isn't damning, but when coupled with this recent Entertainment Weekly interview is interesting. http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20192175_20192181_20205854_3,00.html

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Clint Eastwood is one of our most famous Republicans. Did you talk politics with him on the set?
ANGELINA JOLIE: Actually, we don't disagree as much as you'd think. I think people assume I'm a Democrat. But I'm registered independent and I'm still undecided. So I'm looking at McCain as well as Obama. Clint can teach me about things domestically and I'm more aware of some things internationally. So it was less a debate and more things we found interesting. But for the first few weeks I was just too nervous to get into any deep conversation!



When you are in the kind of position she is, I can understand registering as an Independent. And I can also understand not wanting to support a specific candidate, but it's all in how you phrase your wording. How can one possibly be undecided, especially seeing what she does as a Goodwill Ambassador? The wording, to me, seems like there is actually a thought that McCain would be good choice as President. It would be better to say "I don't speak on domestic politics, I am a Goodwill Ambassador." There will be some people, the kind that never do their own research, but who know that she is a Humanitarian and think "Oh, if she is considering McCain, maybe he would be ok." Quite frankly, there are people who vote who are that stupid (I live in California, I have Schwarzenegger as a governor. On our local news, people were all excited because a movie star "showed them the way," I kid you not, this is what they were saying.) Unfortunately, movie stars have a lot of clout in this country and people will listen to them and follow their advice. Sad, but true.

Now, this just might be my interpretation of what she's saying, and I may be misreading her intention, but as a fan of hers, I was a bit disappointed when I read that Entertainment Weekly interview.

I think you may have misread the intentions of my post.

[rebel with a cause]

9. Okay, lets look at Angelina

She just had twins which she breast feeds every three hours, lives in Frances in a twenty-five room chateau, and has four other kids. She just made a movie with Clint Eastwood (see below), and is making two other movies just as soon as she is able to. Her life partner is Brad Pitt. Yeah, I identify with her and really will be influenced by her opinion. :sarcasm:

On one hand, I don't know what she will come out with as far as candidates are concerned, but personally I am not waiting with baited breathe to find out and I think she might have other things on her mind right at the moment. So if others really want to know they should wait until she is ready to say exactly who she wants to vote for.

On the other hand, Brad Pitt was a supporter of Kerry in 2004 which caused problems with his then wife Jennifer Aniston. He is a 8th cousin of Obama's, supposedly he already volunteered to campaign for Obama in the beginning of his campaign but was turned down because it was too early on, but then he is from Missouri. ;)

*Clint Eastwoom is a republican but in "1992: He declined an offer from President George Bush to campaign for him in the Presidential election. He told an interviewer the next year, "I think what the ultra-right wing conservatives did to the Republicans is really self- destructive, absolutely stupid."." http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000142/bio

Yes, I have too much time on my hands since I am physically limited and mentally active.

[Apollo11]

24. Jennifer Aniston is supporting Barack Obama

She maxed out to his primary campaign more than one year ago.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20050252,00.html

[rebel with a cause]

25. Well, good for her.

I don't know why she and him supposedly had problems during the 2004 election, maybe she was for Kerry but just didn't like being involved in politics that much. Can't really blame her for that.

[democracy1st]

26. yep that chick has always been special to me

[Writer]

10. She makes one politically uncommitted statement and she's categorized.

I think this is stupid.

[Wetzelbill]

12. Yeah but I will say

Anybody who can't decide between Obama or one of the discredited whackjobs who will make this last seven years of bad policy even worse doesn't really impress me much. I mean really, uncommitted after all these years? What's it take to make somebody realize what works and what doesn't?

[Writer]

14. But we really don't know what she's thinking.

In fact, just because she didn't tell this one reporter that Obama is it, and that no one else can compare, we're calling her a potential Republican - although she didn't say one word about leaning toward McCain. This fits well into the asinine "You're either with us, or you're against us" tribalistic mentality and makes us look stupid and judgmental.

[Wetzelbill]

16. oh yeah

I'm wary of making too much of it. Could be she knows but just isn't saying.

[rebel with a cause]

21. I agree with you in a way. Here is what she said at the latest.

"I have not decided on a candidate," Jolie says in a statement provided by political adviser Trevor Neilson to Variety managing editor Ted Johnson, for the trade publication's Wilshire & Washington column. "I am waiting to see the commitments they will make on issues like international justice, refugees and how to address the needs of children in crisis around the world,"

But here is what she said in June.

Additionally, Variety reports, in June Jolie told Entertainment Weekly that when she and Clint Eastwood (director of her upcoming The Changeling – and a Republican) discuss politics, "Actually, we don't disagree as much as you'd think. I think people assume I'm a Democrat. But I'm registered independent and I'm still undecided. So I'm looking at McCain as well as Obama."

Not passing judgment on her, but if she does go for mccain and Brad does too, I will really be disappointed in them. But like I said earlier, it will not affect the way I feel or vote.

[JDPriestly]

15. I wonder what she thinks about torture and how she likes having

her calls and e-mails wiretapped when she is overseas?

[mrs_p]

18. as far as i'm concerned,

she is just another filthy rich overpaid actor, who does some good here and there. i honestly care more about who my friends are gonna vote for.

[barack the house]

19. *faints* Guess my new idol is definitely Paris. =)

[barack the house]

20. Least we know Brad is definitely for Obama they're related.

[barack the house]

22. * looks mournfully at Jolie poster, sniff*

[rebel with a cause]

23. don't give up yet.

maybe it the post baby blues that is talking. I'm giving her a bit of time to come to her senses. If she goes for mccain then that will be one more celebrity that I will tune out. And if she turns Brad to mccain, then I will definitely be mad! I thought better of them. Oh well.......

[Writer]

57. Baby blues?

Maybe she just doesn't want to say right now. Just to let you know, post-natal women can still think.

[Apollo11]

31. Then I guess Obama and Brad Pitt are both Dick Cheney fans!

Or as Obama calls him "my crazy uncle" ... ;-)

[Bombtrack]

27. No, she isn't. Next question: Are the Young Turks fuckin lame-ass and unlistenable ?

“When I travel, people feel uncomfortable when I say I’m American. They think it’s suspicious that I want to do something positive for them. I think they wonder why the American people reelected a president who is making foreign policy choices that are affecting other countries in a way that we should question.” – Angelina Jolie

Her criticisms of Bush or any pointed polical statements at all are so rare because she seems to think that pigeonholing herself as an American partisan would limit her ability and/or range in tackling the various causes she spends a good portion of her time and money on.

[ihavenobias]

35. Next question: Are *you* "fuckin lame-ass and unlistenable"?

;)

Come on Bombtrack, you're really going to be THIS bothered by a 2 minute youtube clip from the THIRD HOUR of the show where (the hour that's not on XM) where they lighten things up with entertainment topics and other such stories?

As a wise man once said, relax, you're at a 10 and you need to be at a 2.

PS---This thread is exactly why they do what they do in the third hour. As much as people complain about these topics they generate a lot of interest. A lot of times the entertainment clips on youtube explode past the much more relevant political clips. Think of Countdown on MSNBC. And look, it's fun to lighten things up after a couple of hours of breaking down serious and sometimes depressing and enraging topics (it is for well rounded people at least).

:)

[CherylK]

38. LOL, well said!

:thumbsup:

[navarth]

39. Let me see...listen to The Young Turks, or 'bombtrack'....

That's a tough decision....

not

[txwhitedove]

28. No way, not, she declared Independent. F**k that noise.

[DeeDeeNY]

29. We should not assume she is particularly smart

This is someone who wore a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood around her neck.

[jimlup]

34. She got the looks so...

Maybe she was short changed in the "brains" department.

[DutchLiberal]

41. Because anybody who adopts kids from the Third World and works for the UN

must be a real dumbass. :eyes:

[DeeDeeNY]

51. Could be

Anyone who adopts kids from the Third World and works for the UN and yet insists she is undecided between Obama, who is respected worldwide, and McCain, who thinks it's funny to sing "Bomb Bomb Iran", cannot have a fully functioning brain.

[Elidor]

58. Personal kinks are a poor indicator of intelligence

In fact, brainy people can get downright nasty. I won't certify Angelina as a rocket scientist, but she seems to be possessed of somewhat better than average intelligence, as well as a great deal of drive. But her busy schedule may make it difficult for her to inform herself on some issues.

I'd certainly let her carry around a vial of my blood without complaint. :evilgrin:
I never understood the blood business, but I'm assuming she's a wild thing. I used to live with someone rather similar in character to her, and I believe that Brad Pitt is being slowly fucked to death.

What a way to go.

[DutchLiberal]

40. So after all, she wasn't for staying In Iraq, she was for not withdrawling from giving aid to the

Iraqi people. The quote said the US should stand up financially and materially. That means the US has to do a lot more to rebuilt the country or to have it rebuild. (Like fixing the roads, the electricity, the water supplies etc.) And she hasn't been in contact with her father for years.

And what IF Angelina Jolie doesn't support Obama? Who are you to talk, Cenk? You praised Ronald Reagan and claimed the GOP ONLY got 'out of control' since Junior. I prefer Angelina Jolie over a 'Reagan Democrat' any day.

[ihavenobias]

42. Ha, ha!

Have you ever listened to ONE full show? Or do you just watch the 1-6 minute youtube clips during the week? :)

He doesn't think Reagan was a good president. Yes, he *used* to be mistaken and he's not perfect on every issue (I'm not aware of a single person/talk show host that is BTW), but your reasoning is questionable here.

I'd much rather have someone who used to like Reagan over someone who *currently* likes McCain (Cenk is clearly mostly joking in this clip and I'm not suggesting that she does support McCain, in fact I doubt she does). But look, you're over-thinking this. This cheap little youtube clip was a fun little distraction in the third hour of the show, the hour reserved for the lighthearted stuff (entertainment, current events, absurd news, etc.). It's a nice break from the relevant news and politics of the first 2 hours, which can be depressing and infuriating at times (like that clip Coyote posted about Mukasey not prosecuting crimes, which has a small fraction of the responses this has gotten BTW).

[CherylK]

45. Well said again!

:thumbsup:

[ihavenobias]

48. Thanks

:)

[DutchLiberal]

46. What are you, the spokesperson/manager/ of TYT?

Why should I have to listen to one full show if I have already seen all the clips you post on DU? Does Cenk, in the parts you don't post, suddenly transformate into a whole other person who holds whole different beliefs?

Who do you think you're fooling with crap like that? Cenk is talking for six whole minutes about a single issue and he makes judgement after judgement, and still I would have to watch an entire hour or so before I can understand the six minute clip? What kind of nonsense is that?

Why are you being an apologist for people who say stupid things? I have complimented Cenk a lot of times on DU for his analysis and I have never heard you comment upon that. But as soon as I have some rightful criticism of him, you pop up to smear me. What are you, his bodyguard?

[ihavenobias]

47. Here's a reasonable response

It's because you go too far IMO. Like last time you said he had no intelligence simply because you disagreed with ONE comment he made.

*I* don't agree with everything he says, and when I don't, I post about it on the TYT website (for example, I don't think he's for enough regulation on trade). *I* have also written him personally and posted threads on the TYT website regarding Reagan being horrible on domestic policy when he tried to argue that Bush was much worse, etc.

I provide constructive criticism and leave the personal insults out of it. When he says something I disagree with I don't make over the top comments about how he doesn't have a shred of intelligence in general, etc.

:)

[DutchLiberal]

49. A person who thinks Republicans were doing good work before 2000...

...have no intelligence. Yes, I said that, and to a very large degree, I still stand by it. Because everything that's wrong now is a direct result from the Reagan/Bush-years.

You avoid answering why I should watch an entire hour when the part that's relevant is in the six minute-part.

[ihavenobias]

50. Come on

You're over-simplifying/mis-characterizing his position.

And look, I agree, much of the ground-work for the (domestic especially) problems we have today was laid starting in the 80's. But hey, why leave out Clinton? NAFTA, the FCC Telecom Act of 1996, Rendition...don't pretend his hands are clean. Not to mention the little to nothing done for alternative energy.

As for why you should watch more than six minutes, it's because he goes into far more detail. Like with the Georgia/Russia issue, he was saying how BOTH sides have some propaganda and that Russia might be politically right but morally wrong (and he gave a detailed, *nuanced* position). You don't get that from all of the youtube clips.

We're not talking about Michael Savage here. If you really do agree with Cenk much of the time, then yes, it's worth it to listen to the rest of the show. You can even create a free account and post your disagreements on TYT.com. Unless you're crazy abusive not only will you not have your thread deleted, but often times the producer (Dave) will feature your thread. He WANTS to see people challenging Cenk!

[DutchLiberal]

53. I'm not oversimplifying anything. I just repeat what he said. It are his words.

Don't think I pretend Clinton was such a good president. You are right: his hands ARE far from clean. But was he better than Reagan and better than the Bushes? Yes, I think so. But I don't understand what Clinton has got to do with this.

If there's one thing I have praised Cenk for in the past, is his ability to analyse an issue perfectly in a short timespan. He knows how to assess a topic in 6 minutes or less. Of course I doesn't hurt to watch an entire show to get more details, but it's not as if you need all those details to understand what he's saying in the clips.

[Wetzelbill]

44. oh snap!

[Robbins]

52. Angelina Jolie

She and her father are not close so just because Jon Voight Is a right winger doesn't mean she Is.
Brad Pitt Is a hard core liberal.He once said he was more to the left than Jennifer Aniston when they were married.So Inless they have different politics I think we can call her a Liberal
Independent.

[Writer]

56. But she's a woman. Of COURSE she doesn't have her own mind!

And she's beautiful, so that means she must be stupid somehow.

:sarcasm:

(not directed at you)

[DutchLiberal]

54. DU'ers are awfully eager to complain about the MSM only devoting time to celebrities...

Yet this is the most-discussed topic in 'Political videos'...

[ihavenobias]

55. That's an excellent point actually

But that's why TYT, Countdown, Dan Abrams (and so on) make sure to throw in a little celeb/entertainment news. Because it DOES get more viewers, even here at DU!