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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:44 PM
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George Will Suffering From Post-Obama Stress Disorder on “This Week”
 
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By: Blue Texan Sunday November 9, 2008 10:26 am

George Will needs a hug.

First, he gets his ass handed to him by Cynthia Tucker when he absurdly asserts that the 2008 election proved that voters really want a do-less, stay-out-of-my-way government -- despite common sense and hard evidence to the contrary.

Then he repeats the wingnut lie about EFCA and secret ballots (calling it Obama's "gays in the military" issue) -- which Jane debunked a week ago.

And best of all, he's forced to listen to Fareed Zakaria make the case how moldy and irrelevant the GOP's ideas are, and he can't quite contain his exasperation.

Sunday morning shows used to be so painful during the height of the Bush/Cheney years, but I could really get used to this kind of action with my pancakes.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/09/george-will-suffering-from-post-obama-stress-disorder-on-this-week/
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:00 PM
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1. First-Steph lets Will set the debate and frame the discussion
CNN did this with Bill Bennett after the third debate

Second-EJ Dionne (rarely on This Week anymore) pointed out that the Repubs were the party of the South now and were getting killed in the 'burbs A YEAR AGO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x398990

Lastly-this is George Will's piece that was in papers this morning
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x400069

November 09, 2008
Irony Abounds
By George Will

Ironies abound. The election of an African-American discomfits the Democratic Party. It practices identity politics, stressing the relevance of "race-conscious" policies, defending racial preferences in public hiring, contracting and education. But the election of Barack Obama is an American majority's self-emancipation: We are free at last from the inexpressible tedium of the preoccupation with skin pigmentation.

Another paradox: More than any presidency since Lincoln's, Bush's has been defined by a single subject, a war. But since the middle of September, in this presidency's last 130 days, the financial crisis eclipsed Iraq. Obama opposed the surge in Iraq, the success of which was perhaps a necessary prerequisite for his election. It removed the danger that he could be cast as advocating, or at least resigned to and complacent about, military defeat, from which most Americans, however much they regret the war, flinch.

More irony: September's financial storm probably sealed Obama's victory by raising the electorate's anxieties while lowering its confidence in Obama's opponent. John McCain's responses -- suspending, sort of, his campaign; ratcheting up his rhetoric about Wall Street "greed and corruption" -- suggested a line spoken solemnly by the Capitol Steps' George W. Bush impersonator: "Uncertain times call for uncertain leadership." But the storm's aftermath -- $1 trillion or so of government resources siphoned away -- will severely constrain Obama's presidency. So, this year the conditions conducive to the election of liberals, with their baroque plans and rococo dreams, have put a polar frost on most such ambitions.

For now, the president-elect is coming to terms with something noted by Ambrose Bierce, the 19th-century American wit who wrote "The Devil's Dictionary." He defined "president" as the leading figure in a small group of persons of whom it is positively known that immense numbers of their countrymen did not want them to be president. Tuesday night, Obama, in his agreeably subdued speech in Grant Park, seemed to feel the weight of that.

He especially seemed determined to assuage the unease of those, and they are many, who discern in his cool demeanor an unattractive detachment from the warm, unembarrassed, demonstrative patriotism that is distinctively American. Hence such Grant Park language as: "Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us." That was a prospective commander in chief finding his voice.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:18 PM
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2. It's hard to know where to begin with Will's article, so....
I'll focus on the first paragraph:

This is the thinking of a white person who, because he doesn't experience racism, doesn't really think it exists except as some sort of Liberal tool to make him (it's all about him) uncomfortable.

Secondly, Will is incapable of grasping that "race-conscious" politics are transitional: They are designed to do just what they did, which is make the country safe (mostly) for a Black man to be President.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:21 PM
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3. COnservatives will fight to the end for their right
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 02:26 PM by StClone
To be wrong. Republicans may run from pariah G. W. Bush but his right to be wrong about Iraq is a quality that he shares with most of them.

George Will is being George Will and will never change and therefore can not be called an intellectual. Conservative and Intellectual may be mutually exclusive outside a small intersection of those that find they aren't Cons after. Intellectuals know knowledge expands and may negate past beliefs. Will can't change instead maintains stoned on Con dogma.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:35 PM
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4. Sorry...couldn't watch it. This pig makes me ill.
I want to hear opposing points of view, but this scum bag jerk off is somebody I have listened to and haven't seen any merit in what spews out of his anal-mouth to date.

I just don't get how jack offs that are doing no more than spewing the talking points and threats of fear from the right can be continually given a platform to orate their nonsense.

will is a hack. A slime ball, nauseating hack. I refuse to listen to him, nor coke-head, nor any of the other right wing hacks that dress up and try to look like they actually have some credibility in today's politics.

They DON'T!

Maybe the lipstick pig can draw him up into the frozen tundra, and they can both disappear off the screen for the rest of eternity.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:11 PM
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8. if one thing can be id'ed as causing the meltdown
it's the pig and his media...
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:16 PM
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5. Did you know....
....that 57% of wadda-mah-choo-choo is now over 75% schlemazeltoffer? And in the 18 to 99 demograpjic is 22% zoop-boop-a boola. That's a 17% increase of Boo-wha-hummana-hummana from the last election!

Wow!
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dothemath Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:19 PM
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7. Finally ..................
Thanks, AlbertCat. A lucid, cogent and correct answer as to why my guy, that would be Obama, didn't win shit, won't be able to govern and might as well resign before he gets to Washington. The neo-con parallel universe is cheering, as we sit here.

George Will used to be a fan of dubya. And now Will can take solace in the fact that his legacy is already written - unlike the legacy dubya prays for every day. That would be dubya's hope his legacy will look a lot better a hundred years from now.
I don't think so. For more than 200 years, the public has relied on a handful of historical scholars to wade through millions of words of history and come up with a definitive - big Ha Ha here - story, spun in accordance with their views, prejudices, etc., with respect to the way it was - another big Ha Ha.

And now, can you spell Internet? I have 2 computers. One I use for the usual stuff. The other one, with 360 GB memory, is for storage of history, in living color, nuances of body language, facial expressions, dress, etc. available to them for comparison to the writings of those aforementioned historical scholars. My children and grandchildren, should they be so disposed, will be able to see and read for themselves just how it was, back in the day. Since 360 GB is only good for about 36 billion video clips and God knows how many words, I will buy another computer if it is needed. And I haven't even mentioned DVDs. Hey, if a 90 year old can secretly store the bodies of 3 dead siblings in her house for who knows how long, I should be able to come up with a place for my stuff.

"All politics is local" is a favorite of wags. If it was ever true, my fellow prisoners, it ain't no more. Just ask George Allen. 'Macaca' moments will henceforth be shared by all, particularly your enemies.

Again, thanks AlbertCat. Keep 'em coming.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:37 PM
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6. George Will hangs around with terrorists
He is a wack job that is not very happy with himself...he
hasn't had a new idea since 1975 and still brings in $10 mill
a year.
He is smarter than Rush, but can't seem to change his attitude
of
"whatever is happening, it's bad".
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