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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:36 PM
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Tawain bees vanish and Hawaii bees dying in the millions
 
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Based on a article by JT Frog
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18326745

I would also say that the mites may be an after effect of Colony Collapse disorder and GMO foods well have weakened them and made them susceptible to mites...Government agencies are trying to keep calm and yet the disturbing fact is the bees are dying all over the world


and a article by catgirl
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/taiwan_bees_dc

Tawain is mystified and are looking at global warming as a factor
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:41 PM
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1. I got no fruit from my dozen fruit trees last year
and I thought it was the unexpected freeze. But I'm thinking it was the lack of bees. It was the beginning of the end of the bees around here in East TN.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:43 PM
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2. Regardless of what's causing it, this is a VERY disturbing development
If the bees go, we're doomed (seriously -- no pollination means no food, for us or livestock).
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:12 PM
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5. we noticed bees dying in our garden in July and August of ...
...last summer. Had no idea it was part of a global catastrophe.
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lefador Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 05:22 PM
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10. Not that many farmers in this forum, eh?
For the most part it seems to be virus/mite related. Tragic, yes... civilization ending, no.

There are places w/o bees, and plants seem to find a way to germinate. In fact most of American honey bees are transplants from Europe. Not all pollination is due to bees, wasps, butterflies, flies, birds, air, etc... are all a factor.

In case anyone is freaking out, the bees quote by Einstein is a fake.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:28 PM
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12. Thank you. America did just fine without the "White man's fly."
We'll manage. The honey bee has one trait that made it so valuable: it covers a lot of distance. Maybe the farms of the future will be interspersed with habitat for native polinators.


I had doubts about the quote.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 03:52 PM
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3. very sad days in Manoa Valley.
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 03:54 PM by mahina
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Apr/26/br/br8347019625.html
But after testing 30 sites, there is so far no indication that the mites have spread to other islands, he said.

None of the mites were found in surveys on the Kona side of the Big Island, or the south sides of Kaua'i or Moloka'i. But hives in other sections of those islands as well as Maui and Lana'i are still being surveyed by state entomologists, said Janelle Saneishi, spokeswoman for the state Department of Agriculture.

SLOW SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE U.S.

Originally from Asia, varroa mites were first discovered in Wisconsin and Florida in 1987. By the next year, the mites were found in 12 states and have since spread throughout the continental U.S.

The pin head sized insects feed off the blood of honeybee adults, larvae and pupae. The mites can weaken adults and cause deformations in younger bees and are spread through bee contact.

"We were hoping that Hawai'i would stay free but we're not sure how it got in," Saneishi said.

Bees cannot legally be imported into Hawai'i.

Beekeepers are now being asked not to move their bees between islands or even within the same island. Once authorities have confirmed where the mites have spread, they can then work on a possible quarantine for bees throughout the state, Saneishi said.

"But you know a bee flies. So that's the wild card," she said.

On the Web:

Hawai'i Beekeepers' Association: http://www.hawaiibeekeepers.org/index.php

Hawaii Department of Agriculture: http://www.hawaii.gov/hdoa







When Saneishi says they hope Hawai'i will stay free they mean the island of Hawai'i as we already have the mite in Manoa.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:01 PM
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4. Note that O'ahu is the GMO capital of the entire planet
lots of the big GM outfits, notably Pioneer Hi-Bred, test their GM crops here: year-round growing season, plenty of available ag land formerly planted in sugar or pineapple, and geographic isolation so that the inevitable screwup won't spread across an entire continent or two.

I have no clue whether this mite infestation is in any way related to GMO, merely pointing out that the possibility is there.

Also I had no idea that bees were kept right in the city of Honolulu. In faact, that first infested hive was right in my old neighborhood!
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:25 PM
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6. A few facts and links...
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 04:38 PM by saddlesore
First off, have some faith in science and know that they will find the reason. Good People are working on it.

That said, this has happened before. Link: http://www.ento.psu.edu/MAAREC/FAQ/FAQCCD.pdf

Albert Einstein estimated that the human race would last 4 years without bees...

Quote of Albert Einstein: "If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe, then (wo)man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more (wo)man." Link: http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2007/04/143402.php

Some affected crops, READ SOME...

PDF Link: http://maarec.cas.psu.edu/PDFs/Pollination_PM.pdf

Forage and Legume Crops - *Alfalfa; buckwheat; clover
(alsike, berseem, crimson, Egyptian, *Ladino, *red, rose,
strawberry, and white); *crown vetch; sweet clover (*Hubam,
*white, *yellow); lespedeza (bush); *trefoil; vetch (*hairy
and purple).
Fruit Crops - *Apple; apricot; *avocado; berry (blackberry,
*blueberry, *cranberry, gooseberry, raspberry, and *strawberry);
carambola; *cherry; citrus (*grapefruit, lemon, *mandarin,
nectarine, *tangelo, and *tangerine) *kiwi, mango,
passion fruit, *peach; *pear; persimmon, *plum, and prune.
Nut Crops - *Almond, cashew, chestnut, coconut, and *macadamia.
Oilseed Crops - *Cotton, flax, *rape, *safflower, soybeans,
*sunflower, tung.
Vegetable Seed Crops - Asparagus, *broccoli, *brussel
sprouts, *carrots, *cauliflower, celery, Chinese cabbage,
collard, cucumber, dill, eggplant, garlic, kale, kohlrabi, leek,
*lima beans, mustard, *onion, parsley, *pepper, pumpkin,
*radish, rutabaga, *squash, and *turnip.
Vegetable Crops - Beans, *cucurbits (canteloupe, cucumbers,
muckmelon, pumpkin, squash and watermelon), eggplant,
lima beans, and peppers.

However, there are a lot of people investigating this and I am sure that they will discover the reason.

I edited this to tone down the fear mongering and added the line above.
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lefador Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 05:33 PM
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11. Einstein's "quote" is a fabrication...
.... check snopes.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 08:54 AM
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14. My apologies.
Since it is past the edit. I can not retract.

Lesson learned, I should have removed the quote when I did the first edit to tone down the post. I had my suspicions then because I could not find a more credible site with the quote, but left it due to carelessness.

Again, DU except my apologies.


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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:27 PM
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7. Everytime I read one of these articles
I go out and open my beehive and check on the girls. They are recovering from a virus caused by the varroa mites and I used a non pesticide treatment that seems to be working well. I am so paranoid that I will go out there and they will be gone.
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:34 PM
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8. I hope that does not happen.
May 'your girls' recover fully and live long...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 05:02 PM
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9. what is your treatment?
Not that I have bees of my own, but if it's working folks might like to know. Curious.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:59 AM
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13. The bees have been around for 100 million years
and GM foods is the playing of God by using DNA and inserting things that naturally didn't happen by evolution

If Oahu is GM heaven then the mite story is a smoke screen and yes the Beekeeper knows in his heart the days
of the bees is in jeopardy ...

I have been watching governments bureaucracies all trying to deny its happening but its spreading all over the world

and nobody has an answer

scientists better hurry
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