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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 03:27 AM
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Rachel Maddow discusses the current state of the Republican Party with Meghan McCain
 
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 03:44 AM
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1. Interesting that this 'kid' wants to help Rep party be real!
Go, Meghan!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 03:56 AM
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2. I was impressed with her here
I've grown to like her, she's articulate and smart. I'd probably disagree with her on many issues, but she reminds me of my moderate Republican friends who are young and intelligent as well.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:05 AM
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3. Three things:
1) Any enemy of Coultergeist is my friend.

2) She's attractive, has name recognition, and sounds reasonable as a repukelikon.

3) She implied Fox Noise's bias

That's enough for me. I want to see the pukelikons move toward her point of view, as far as I can see from this video. If the far right becomes marginalized as wingnut weirdos then we've done our job.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:51 AM
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27. Unfortunately, she followed up her challenge to Ann Coulter by whining about
how the press "lets everyone in the Obama administration get away with everything."

http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/meghan_mccain_sees_you_sitting.php


Boo hoo, Meghan. I guess it must really suck that your dad's "base" is no longer kissing his wrinkly, failed ass.

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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:23 AM
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4. Any step towards moderation is a good thing
the extremists and noise machines of any ilk just block up the chance that we need to progress with honest dialogue. We don't have to always agree, but we can be civil and try to find common areas of agreement then build from those.


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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:23 AM
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7. like a mild case of Faso-Cleptocratic Plutocracy is OK?? a little bit a Hitler woulda been OK..??
i don't think so as civilization as we know it spirals into darkness because of them... and the world itself is dying and they block every effort to save humanity from extinction... as we let them rewrite history again. nothing about them is valid..
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:40 AM
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10. So how do you really feel?
I guess we should not even bother to try to talk folks willing to talk. Particularly those with which we disagree (isn't that the Bush approach to the "evil doers")

Screeching is just soooooo much better.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 01:44 PM
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30. That is simply not the case Sam. There are many east coast Republicans
that are much more moderate than some Southern Democrats (I'm a Southerner and I know my share of them). We have to find middle ground or we risk sounding (and being) like the neocons that fought for a single party for the US. The notion of a single party scares me even a Democratic single party system. It's that absolute power thing.

Also, it's a shame (maybe) that Meghan chose Coulter to go after. Ann will cut her off at the knees given the chance where a Hannity or an O'Reilly might not. Oh well, it will be interesting to watch - I'm rooting for Meghan.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:04 AM
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33. she's put'n lipstick on a fascist pig.. an that says volumes about southern democrats.. i live in NC
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 05:09 AM by sam sarrha
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:37 AM
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5. The thing here is she wants the GOP to be 21st century they ain't even 20th century. Thankfully she>
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 04:43 AM by cooolandrew
has her work cut out. While we'll just keep rolling. Although the important lesson here is not to be complacent with power and totally lose touch with voters.

To be fair it is touching to see how much she cares for her dad, as flawed a character as he is.
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firefox28 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 04:54 AM
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6. Why didn't she tell her dad this?
And kick Palin out?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:58 AM
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28. Meghan claims to represent the "moderate" wing of her party (that she only joined 2 years ago), but
she LOVES her some Sarah Palin.

And I'm afraid little Miss McCain is the one who taught her dear old daddy to Twitter. Thanks a lot, Meghan. We really didn't get enough of your pappy's inane ravings last year.



And WELCOME to DU! :hi: Always good to have a new member from across the pond.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 05:05 AM
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34. so she's put'n lipstick on 2 fascist pigs....
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:59 AM
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8. Any Republican that receives "tons of hate-mail" from other Republicans...
must be doing something right!
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:59 AM
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9. What a idiot
It's another sarah palin.

She comments on the economic situation, and then she turns around to say, I don't know much about economics. WTF?

She said a bunch of stupid and un-American crap last year.

The republican party is destroyed, and I proudly helped do it.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 06:52 AM
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11. I definitely agree with you.
She kept repeating she's so pro-Republican, but then Rachel asks her one question on their spending freeze stance and she stammers she doesn't know much about economics? If she had even a basic knowledge of issues, she should be able to comment somewhat intelligently. You get the feeling that she thinks she has to be Republican because her parents are Republican, as though it's something you're born into and have to stick with for life. But she's attractive and uses the magic word "moderate" and is one of the few Republicans willing to come on Rachel's show, so people like her.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:46 AM
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13. Seems like a case of brand loyalty. "Republican - its what's for dinner tonight" or some-such-shit.
Blind faith in an ideology that's long been dead and gone. To win votes and appease their masters (aka Bush's base), they played to the agenda of the rabid "Moral Majority" and the rest is pretty much history. She may wish to "resurrect" that ideology but it's going on twenty years now, I'd say it's dead and gone.

The only question left for her party now is revival or rebranding?
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 02:46 PM
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31. What exactly is it that makes her republican?
Is she a pro-life evangelical Christian or something? If she's not into fear/hate mongering and has no opinion economically, what part of the party does she embrace?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:13 PM
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32. I dunno, like I said, it must be the brand name. She has nothing in common with the
"rabid" base. She has more in common with the well to do Bush's base - but what's their take on her "moderate" stance?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 08:13 AM
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15. She said she was an independent until about two years ago
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 08:14 AM by rocktivity
which coincides with Daddy getting into the Prez race. That makes her "passion" for the GOP suspicious at best, and her "Valley Girl" delivery didn't help, either.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 08:13 AM
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16. Well, she did say she takes after her dad. Who admitted he didn't know anything re:economics either.
It's understandable. Who has to know anything about economics except that Mom has money & that's where you go when you need some?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 11:02 AM
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29. But, but she's "seen a lot" and "done a lot" so we should CARE "a lot" about what she has to say!
And you're exactly right, she thinks she is picking up her daddy's tattered banner and soldiering on. Too bad she, much like her father, has NO idea what she's talking about. She's a spoiled, sheltered rich kid who's never had a real job. Pathetic.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:48 AM
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14. Agree. I can't believe some DUers fell for it.
She sounded like a typical, no nothing, rich KID that thinks we can all just get along.

The best she could say about any policy was 'I agree with my Dad'. WTF!!

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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:18 AM
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25. She actually made me fall asleep
Her ideas sounded more like a teenager venting rage against an unknown world.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 07:04 AM
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12. I like Meghan McCain, but her point seems to be that Republicans should act more grown up
Good luck with that, Meghan.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 08:28 AM
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17. she had a good attitude and seemed like a positive person last night
She came off as likeable and everything, but there wasn't a lot of...there, there. WHY does she like the Republican party? What way should they reach out to young voters? It wasn't clear to me....
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 08:29 AM
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18. I'm sorry... While I admire this youg womans desire to
"meet in the middle" so to speak, and sell herself as a moderate conservative. I can not take her seriously. She's not all that "articulate", in fact when questioned, I can't get the image of a vapid Miss America candidate out of my head. Very inane, and canned responses. Secondly, she's a Twitter obsessed socialite, and a raging narcissist to boot. Anyone that wants to blather on endlessly about their own life to anyone who will listen is too self-absorbed to be taken seriously. Speaks 100 words a second, and most of those words are "like". Why do so many young people speak so dumb now? Is it social retardation being manifested genetically in kids now? It's fucking stupid, and it shows a complete lack of intelligence. My 16 y.o. Stepdaughter doesn't punctuate every sentence with "like", but then again, she's an honors student working on a scholarship to Georgetown University.

Sadly what the republican party so desperately needs is an intelligent woman. Someone like, Rachel Maddow for instance. Unfortunately for them, no intelligent, self-respecting, well spoken woman would ever associate with republicans. It's just all lose-lose for them these days. I ain't buying this Megan McCain crap either...
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 08:59 AM
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20.  Exactly.
From the same mold as Miss South Carolina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:47 AM
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26. Yep! That's the one!
:hi:
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 08:47 AM
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19. Meghan McCain: Young Confederate Widow
I admire Meghan McCain's hope and enthusiasm, even though I find less and less to admire about the current Republican Party each passing day. However, she reminds me of those young women who married Confederate veterans long after the Civil War who continued to apologize for 'the lost cause' long after their spouses' deaths. I suspect that the GOP might well be slowly falling into a death-spiral and that Meghan McCain's efforts to revive the Elephant Party will prove futile.

Sorry, kiddo, but that's how I feel.

:dem:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:19 AM
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23. If Obama is FDR, then a new Ike might be coming.
Sooner or later the republicans will figure this stuff out. Hopefully it takes at least 20 years like last time.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:12 AM
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21. She wants the Republican Party to be like the Democratic Party.
She could save herself a lot of effort trying to convert a pack of red-necks and just abandon it and join a party that already espouses the principles that she admires. I understand that she voted for Kerry.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:17 AM
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22. She seems like a nice kid
And she's saying the right thing. Republicans can't continue to support policies that people oppose. Also, people like Coulter and Limbaugh are bad for the party. Hopefully she is a sign of a better, less combative future. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:28 AM
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24. Hell hath no fury like a moderate "ly" overweight Republican scorned.....
Sorry, I couldnt help myself. She's actually pretty in a tell me how much you hate Ann Coulter kind of way.
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