Say what? Megan McCain, Tina Brown and the media think Obama is over exposed?

[wndycty]

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[NewJeffCT]

1. He & his surrogates are being drowned out by

a small & vocal minority - Rush Limbaugh, Eric Cantor, John Boehner, etc...

[Webster Green]

2. Obama won!..Get over it, you fucking pukes!

Time to move on, assholes! :rofl:

[billybob537]

3. WHAAAAA He not only dominates the airwaves

But he looks great doing it!
What will the LOSER REPUBLICS try to pick apart next.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[rocktivity]

4. DING DING DING! Billybob, you're our grand prize winner!

...He not only dominates the airwaves...But he looks great doing it!

Nobody complained when Bush sought to bypass the "media filter" and talk directly to "the people." More to the point, the people seem to like it. Where does that leave both the Rethugs and their media puppets? THAT'S what they're really upset about!

:headbang:
rocktivity

[MADem]

5. To be fair, McCain's remarks, in context, were not that blunt at all.

She said she supports the President. She said her generation likes his level of exposure, but that maybe """older""" people don't. She was speaking from a generational perspective in that interview.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/24/lkl.meghan.mccain/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

King: Is President Obama getting overexposed?

McCain: I think he is on the verge of it. I do think you have to be careful. But it is a different generation. generation ... we like our celebrities. And I think that he realizes that because he is very much a Generation Y president. However, he is on the risk of alienating his older followers.

King: Does Obama seem like the same guy who ran against your dad? How do you view him?

McCain: He's our president and when the election was over and when President Obama won, all negative feelings were gone. I support the president.

King: How does your dad feel about that?

McCain: I think the same way. You know, my family is really good at letting go of things and moving on. And he just holds no grudges.

King: Do you think most of the people in your party agree with Limbaugh? Do they want him to fail?

McCain: I don't know, because there are many different personalities within the party. ... I would never want my president to fail, no matter which party is in power.

But what, to me, is more interesting, is that she articulates the very thing I have been warning about here--that the GOP is about to FLIP in a dramatic way; to go back to their Lincolnesque roots, and that this will be the biggest flip since the Southern Strategy by Richard Nixon:

King: Do you consider yourself a moderate? Are you moderate liberal?

McCain: I consider myself a progressive Republican. I am liberal on social issues. And I think that the party is at a place where social issues shouldn't be the issues that define the party. And I have taken heat, but in fairness to me, I am a different generation than the people that are giving me heat. I'm 24 years old. I'm not in my 40s, I'm not in my 50s and older.

King: Therefore, you must, based on what you said, disagree with your father? ... Do you discuss it?

McCain: We have a very big generation gap between me and my father. Yes, we discuss them. He's very open-minded. I was raised in an open-minded home. I was raised a Christian, but I was raised open-minded Christian -- one to accept people, love people, not pass judgment. ...

I believe in gay marriage. ... I personally am pro-life, but I'm not going to judge someone that's pro-choice. It is not my place to judge other people and what they do with their body.

King: We have an e-mail question from Veronica, Huntington Park, California: "Do you share most of your father's political views?"

McCain: When it comes to war and the economy, and many fiscal conservative values, I agree with him. I mean I fell in love with the Republican Party because of my father.

King: Earlier this month, wrote a DailyBeast column criticizing right-wing pundit Ann Coulter. Conservative radio host Laura Ingraham fired back at you, including making a comment about your weight. You then gave a straight talk response in an appearance on "The View." What led to that?

McCain: You know, it's so funny. I was in the airport today and this guy goes, "Hey, Meghan, kiss my fat ass." And I was like oh my gosh. That's where this has gone to.

As far as I'm concerned with what's going on with Laura Ingraham, on my end, it's over. There are nine million women in this country suffering from eating disorders. And I'm not going to be bullied around about my weight and what kind of standards I'm not fitting. ...

King: Were you surprised that Laura, who's had breast cancer, got into something that personal?

McCain: I had never heard of her before until this happened.

Smart young woman--the worst insult is to say you don't even know the person attacking you!

[wndycty]

7. Generally I have no problem with Megan, however the "over exposure" comment. . .

. . .got my goat because her standing as a "celebrity" is due to OVER EXPOSURE!

[MADem]

13. She's not over-exposed, though. Thus far, she's right about right.

Pardon the "right" puns.

She worked on her father's campaign and blogged about him. She's not an "unknown" to those who followed her father's campaign, either as supporters or as the morbidly curious. Now, she's blogging for Tina Brown. The only reason she went on the VIEW, and later, Larry King, is because of that shit Laura Ingraham said about her. She's just defending herself. That's not "over-exposure" and I don't blame her for piping up.

As I said elsewhere, her view is shared by many, many, MANY young people. It's dismissed at our own peril. We can't be resting on our laurels, we need to emphasize fiscal responsibility (as opposed to "fiscal conservatism") in context with a socially liberal agenda, otherwise, we'll see a brain-drain of young, impressionable kids to the GOP.

It's no longer a badge of shame for young people to be affiliated with the Republicans....it was, in my day. You'd rather be a pervert than a Republican! Apparently, while the Democrats are being "responsible" and "conscious of the suffering of others," the GOP kids are partying like crazed animals, getting shitfaced and dancing on the ceilings. The GOP is the "party Party" and the Democrats are a bunch of dull, finger-wagging sourpusses who will criticize everything you say, get offended by any offhand remark, and who don't know how to have any fucking fun at all.

At least, that's how it's shaking out to some kids. That's what some have told me.

Do not shoot the messenger.

[Sebass1271]

9. She agrees with her father on the war.. how conservative of her

... she also agrees with her father on fiscally responsible issues.. riiiiight, like if her father is fiscally responsible, the war that she loves to support drove her party and this country to a deep shit hole.

She contradicts herself.. I don't understand the argument of socially liberal and fiscally conservative.. how can you be the first without NOT being the other? social causes NEED assistance from Govnmt...

[MADem]

12. It's an interesting mix, but don't think for a minute it isn't "real." I've seen it.

These eighteen year olds and up have a different view. They believe old people like me are swiping all the goods, that we just need to curl up and die, already, and a socially liberal/fiscally conservative agenda APPEALS to them.

When I was a kid, only socially-inept nerds and utter shitheads in my peer group were Republicans. My peers would have been ashamed to admit it, even if they harbored conservative tendencies. Now, a LOT of smug little shits are--there are robust conservative groups on campuses...hell, BC has been taken over by the GOP. They're selfish, they're consumers-on-steroids, and they could care less about you. They like the fact that "the poor" fight our wars and keep us "NUMBAH ONE" in the world. "USA, USA, USA!!!!!" They simply want abortion on demand, free health care, "the dole" if they find themselves out of work....but they don't want "those old people" to get too many benefits. They're "cafeteria conservatives," as it were.

We ignore them at our peril. They're the Next Big Thing.

I've been saying, over and over again--Michael Steele and Bobby Jindal are NO ACCIDENTS. They're a harbinger of a serious sea change. Watch for it....

[GrimReefa]

14. Whoa, whoa...

Hey, hey, hey, hold on a second.

Under 30 voters voted for Barack Obama by a 2-1 margin. I dont have any numbers, but I imagine the margin of young people who volunteered on the respective campaigns dwarfs even that. The reason that the Democrats went after Limbugh is that he has an 11% approval rating amongst people in that age group. 11%. I think the ebola virus is more well-received.

Megan McCain represents the future of the GOP. But listen to what she is saying (and what she isn't saying). She says that Obama is the President and that we all need to support him, not that she hopes he fails. She says that he is in danger of perhaps over-exposing himself, not that he is a socialist totalitarian and that Texas may have to seceede and elect Chuck Norris "President". There is no talk about Republicans arming themselves if the Energy Tax gets passed. No hysterical ramblings about the Guantanamo detainees being set free to terrorize the countryside of Oklahoma. If the Republicans hope to ever make any gains with the youth, they are going to have to throw the loudest voices in their party out on their ear first, and listen to people like Megan McCain. And how has McCain been received by the GOP establishment? Well, Laura Ingraham's response was to call her fat. Nice.

But don't go projecting my generation as a bunch of selfish me-firsters just because that is how the Baby Boomers turned out. And certainly don't overestimate the Repulicanness of people my age because of the presence of young conservatives at one of the most expensive Catholic Colleges in the country. Check on the size of the college Republican contingent at UMass and get back to me. And remember, Barack Obama won this election on OUR backs.

And also remember, young Republicans are vastly outnumbered by young Democrats, so they are going to try and make up for it by being louder and more obnoxious, which can give the impression that there are more of them than there are.

[MADem]

15. I am not "projecting your generation as a bunch of selfish me-firsters"

All I'm doing is telling you what I'm hearing. If your generation was lockstep liberal-left, Ann Coulter would not be received on college campuses without so much as a peep of protest. Don't give me the odd pie flinger in an auditorium, I'm talking about hundreds of people, at least, with signs, saying "This woman is scum!" That never happened.

My use of BC was just ONE example--not the only one. Conservatives do very well on college campuses--I think it's the "Alex Keaton effect" myself.

FWIW, those pesky "bloodsucking" elderly voted for Obama in overwhelming numbers, too--he didn't win with "the youth vote" alone. You helped, but don't overestimate your effect.

And using UMASS, a public school, as a counter-example (particularly when their fucked up "Republican Club" has been in the news due to what can only be kindly termed as "astoundingly poor leadership" in the past year) doesn't cut it. BC is significant because in the past, it's been on the forefront of issues of social justice. Tip O'Neill went there. Lately, it's turned into GOP Central. As for UMASS, MA is a BLUE STATE--a very blue state--we were punished for not voting for Nixon. It's not surprising that a public school in a blue state, where the tuition is cheaper for those from the blue state, would have a preponderance of "blue" people attending.

Certainly, Republicans are a minority of young people. That's not at issue. Certainly, their numbers are at a low point in the last year. What surprises, no, shocks me is that there are any at all in that age range.

Also, there are a lot of young people who don't identify themselves as REPUBLICAN, but will use the "Libertarian" (Republicans who want to smoke pot) or "Conservative" banner, instead. During this last election, the number of young people who thought Ron Paul was "cool" and who attempted to tout him on this forum was fucking mind-boggling. The guy is a racist who is off-the-page....but he just "sounded good" so they were all for him.

As for Laura Ingraham, she lost that round. McCain won, "roundly," too, I might add.

As I have said, she's the future of the GOP. So is Michael Steele. So is Bobby Jindal. Mark my words. You will see a GOP fronted by people from every background, to include women of all colors, shapes and sizes (not just the blonde bimbolinas) and many IMMIGRANTS. When they rebuild, they'll go for the "fiscal conservatism" and the "economic responsibility" and re-rack the "tax and spend" themes that work so well for them. They will abandon the social issues totally, and the fundies will be told to suck it up and get over it. They may even give those Log Cabin guys and gals, with all of their MONEY, a little respect.

I was alive and kicking when Nixon threw up the "Southern Strategy." Everyone (even Democrats) thought it was a "one off"--that he was "just doing it to get elected." Well, Surprize, Surprize, Gomer--it became a cornerstone of the GOP, and the racists flocked to them in droves. When Reagan pulled out his dogwhistle, it was cemented in place. Now, they've got the crowbar out, and they're dismantling that mess.

I see them positioning for a major change once more. As more and more people identify themselves as "Independent," it is critical that no party rest on their laurels and make assumptions about their constituencies. The GOP will be going after those "conservatives," and "libertarians" and "independents," and even those "soft Democrats" who are pissed because that swell degree can only get them a job as an assistant manager at Pizza Hut...if they're lucky.

[TheEuclideanOne]

6. Tina Brown is full of shit

She first tries to use the old Paris Hilton talking point, than tries to say that he is not being substantial. But since she can't back up any of that BS, she has to go back to the "he is too overexposed" point. Like so many wingnuts I have spoken with, she jumps from crappy argument to crappy argument as if you can add all of the pointless arguments together and, in sum, they will somehow make more sense than one valid point.

They are all praying so hard that he is not on the air, explaining what the administration is really doing, so that they can get away with the crap that they are spewing on the radio and the internets. It is very much of a "talk behind your back" mentality, where the person who talks behind your back hopes that you don't confront them to set the record straight.

[graywarrior]

8. Well, when you're used to having Bush & Cheney hiding in their rat holes

what do you expect? Plus, isn't Miss McCain a little over exposed now, too? Everytime I turn around she's on tv blabbing about nothing.

[tomm2thumbs]

10. eh, if that's the worst they can come up with, let' em use it -

saying he's overexposed will become overexposed -

notice that the GOP has entirely disappeared lately - they realized that every time they showed up on camera, they were knocking themselves down a tick - like someone struggling in quicksand, they realized the more you struggle, the deeper you sink - now they are sitting and waiting, hoping for someone new to come along with a rope to toss their way. It's quite pathetic actually

[pipi_k]

11. And if he weren't as visible, they'd be foaming at the mouth over that, too

Kind of reminds me of a room full of tired and cranky two year old kids who can't decide what they want so they scream bloody murder and aren't happy with anything at all.

Feh

Fuck 'em all.

the people saying he's overexposed, I mean...not the two year old kids.


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